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Despite piracy, Lil Wayne's latest CD is a monster hit

Written by Andre Yoskowitz @ 18 Jun 2008 1:50 User comments (61)

Despite piracy, Lil Wayne's latest CD is a monster hit Despite another year of falling CD sales and the leaking of his album to P2P networks weeks ago, the prolific rapper Lil Wayne's latest CD, “Tha Carter III” sold 420,000 copies on launch day and has surpassed 1 million for its first week sold, marking the first time in 3 years that an album has sold over a million in its initial week. The sales also eclipses any other CD launched this year, including big ticket names such as Mariah Carey and Usher which sold under half of what "Tha Carter III" has.
Making the news even better for the rapper and the labels behind him, is that hip hop sales have been seeing the largest declines recently, down almost 25 percent year on year from 2007. Lil Wayne has not released a CD since 2005, but has been featured on over 70 other artist's songs in the last 12 months and has released tons of mixtapes.



“He stayed connected and nurtured his audience,” said Sylvia Rhone, president of Universal Motown Records. “He was always working. And I think the rabid following he’s cultivated is reflected in those sales numbers.”

“Tha Carter III” was leaked online in May, and many of the songs off the album have been on P2P networks for some time, but it appears that many have decided to support the artist and have purchased the album as well.

“I don’t think Middle America got interested in him because his mixtapes were so great, but they forced serious rap fans to care about everything he was doing,”
said Sean Fennessey, the music editor at Vibe. “Then he landed on a pop hit with ‘Lollipop,’ which was something he had never been able to do before. And between that and the serious rap fans, it became an event.”

According to BigChampagne (a company tracks P2P online activity), Lil Wayne has been the most pirated artist on P2P networks for some time now, with fans taking an average of 10 of his tracks.

“That speaks to the quantity of his output, which is plentiful, as well as the depth of his audience’s engagement,”
said Eric Garland, BigChampagne’s chief executive. “If you’re a fan, you’re most likely a serious fan. And while people who like an individual song are not going to open their wallets for you, people who like 10 songs will. I think the mixtape phenomenon is great for feeding the machine, which is what the music industry is about in the 21st century.”

That statement is a stark contrast to how the record labels feel. Record labels have been throwing millions of dollars into getting mixtapes removed from stores and street corners and for the most part discourage "unofficial releases". Maybe this hit will help them to change that way of thinking.

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118.6.2008 13:56

Not sure what people see in this kind of music. That's all I really have to say.

218.6.2008 14:06

Ok I was going to write this before the first post got here, but its too late now. DO NOT POST unless you are posting about the article. I do not care if you hate rap, I don't care if a rapper killed your family. Keep this on topic...

Now with that said...back to the comments.

318.6.2008 14:15
goodswipe
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Originally posted by 21Q:
Not sure what people see in this kind of music. That's all I really have to say.
It's a cultural thing, you wouldn't understand.

If music is good, people will buy it. P2P networks will not hold a good artist back.
This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 18 Jun 2008 @ 2:17

418.6.2008 14:51

I'm not surprised.
Lil' Wayne is the greatest rapper that is STILL rapping and alive right next to 'The Game', meaning, I'm not including Eazy-E, Tupac, B.I.G, Wu Tang Caln and such. 50 Cent and them are too commerical.

I have the cd, and I really love it, I play it in my car and there is only 1 song I skip.

Off topic but 'Tie My Hands' to me, is the best song on the album, it's about New Orleans and it features Robin Thicke.

@21Q: Go and "Buy" 'Tie My Hands' and you'll like it, it's a deep song.

518.6.2008 15:08

goodswipe practically said it all. if you like the artist, you'll buy the cd to support, even if you downloaded the songs.

slight off topic: there's nothing like hearing ryan leslie playing lollipop on the piano.

618.6.2008 15:08
goodswipe
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You gotta remember where he got his influence from. Texas and Louisiana rap - mostly Texas style. Check out anything from DEA, SUC, or any other OG Houston rapper. That's where it's at my friend, so not commercial, that is until everyone started catching on.

718.6.2008 17:02

i bought 2 copies =D

clean version from wal-mart..
(i just found out wal-mart only carries clean versions)
i couldnt return it...

so i went to target and got the explicit version.. =]

we support good artist and good music.. lil wayne is FIRE =]

and if ur not sure what people see.. its matching groups of words that sound good together.. soo good that nobody ever thought about it before.. like woww.. did he just say that!?!? because one word can have multiple meanings.. sounds pretty good.. common shouldn't have won the lyricist of the year.. but whatever, i guess being too cocky has its prices too.

818.6.2008 17:18

Originally posted by lxfactor:
i bought 2 copies =D

clean version from wal-mart..
(i just found out wal-mart only carries clean versions)
i couldnt return it...

so i went to target and got the explicit version.. =]

we support good artist and good music.. lil wayne is FIRE =]

and if ur not sure what people see.. its matching groups of words that sound good together.. soo good that nobody ever thought about it before.. like woww.. did he just say that!?!? because one word can have multiple meanings.. sounds pretty good.. common shouldn't have won the lyricist of the year.. but whatever, i guess being too cocky has its prices too.

Wallmart is "Purs'tanical" you can buy NC17 unrated dvds but god forbid you buy PG13+ songs!
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918.6.2008 17:33
goodswipe
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by lxfactor:
i bought 2 copies =D

clean version from wal-mart..
(i just found out wal-mart only carries clean versions)
i couldnt return it...

so i went to target and got the explicit version.. =]

we support good artist and good music.. lil wayne is FIRE =]

and if ur not sure what people see.. its matching groups of words that sound good together.. soo good that nobody ever thought about it before.. like woww.. did he just say that!?!? because one word can have multiple meanings.. sounds pretty good.. common shouldn't have won the lyricist of the year.. but whatever, i guess being too cocky has its prices too.

Wallmart is "Purs'tanical" you can buy NC17 unrated dvds but god forbid you buy PG13+ songs!
I know right. I was shocked to see that they carried Rob Zombies version of Halloween. That movie has more sex, violence, and curse words then most cd's out there.

1018.6.2008 17:36

Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by lxfactor:
i bought 2 copies =D

clean version from wal-mart..
(i just found out wal-mart only carries clean versions)
i couldnt return it...

so i went to target and got the explicit version.. =]

we support good artist and good music.. lil wayne is FIRE =]

and if ur not sure what people see.. its matching groups of words that sound good together.. soo good that nobody ever thought about it before.. like woww.. did he just say that!?!? because one word can have multiple meanings.. sounds pretty good.. common shouldn't have won the lyricist of the year.. but whatever, i guess being too cocky has its prices too.

Wallmart is "Purs'tanical" you can buy NC17 unrated dvds but god forbid you buy PG13+ songs!
I know right. I was shocked to see that they carried Rob Zombies version of Halloween. That movie has more sex, violence, and curse words then most cd's out there.

Iknow its so fakein its family friendlyness its not funny....and thebastards have the balls to cling to the shallow we R family friendly please buy from us so that china can rule you.


uuuhhggggg

1118.6.2008 18:59

Okay then, I will post a useful comment. It's surprising to see that so many people have bought this one album. I mean the fact that it was leaked almost 2 months in advance of the release and it still gets these sales is amazing. I don't own one cd of music, and have only bought one ever. I understand wanting to support the artist, but I didn't think so many other people did as well. And considering the massive decline in cd sales, the amount of sales is even more incredible.

This is what I thought about it, but my perception of this kind of music got the better of me. And I don't hate it, I just don't appreciate it lyrically. And btw goodswipe, I was raised and live in the culture, but I still don't get it....

1218.6.2008 19:04

21Q
indavendaul taste is 60% of what people like in a subject, some get it and enjoy it no mater what it is some don't and get annoyed with it.

presonaly I can like just abotu anything music wise its just I focus on lyrics and themes in the song if I hate them then I don't like the song.

1318.6.2008 19:33

I'm part of those million sales!
Got the tracks when they were available and decided to support the artist! Keep em coming!

1418.6.2008 20:10
Saber9
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People buying CD's makes me laugh. If you are worried that if no one buys CD's music will disappear don't. Artists rake in millions on tours. I will never buy a CD again in my life and haven't in over 6 years.

1518.6.2008 20:25
fgamer
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Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!

1618.6.2008 20:32

Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!
because its been 30 years since gold country sang about druging,cheating,sex and "work" I mean really.... its easy to dis rap but you ever take hard long look at rock or classic/new country?

1718.6.2008 22:32

Quote:
Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!
because its been 30 years since gold country sang about druging,cheating,sex and "work" I mean really.... its easy to dis rap but you ever take hard long look at rock or classic/new country?
See, that's the thing. I could say that new or classic country sing about there wiskey, but that is a stereotype, and that is what you are doing, stereotyping rap, saying it only talks about 'drugs, cheating, sex', you obviously haven't heard The Carter III.

Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything. As well as his track, 'Dontgetit' (This is the same track as 'Misunderstood' that fgamer is talking about). He is talking about the black minorities and how the jail is full of crack dealers and not the real criminals, the rapiest and such. The other track 'Dr. Carter', the lyrics and the way he puts his words together, is amazing. Comfortable, is another good track, it's about a woman, and how she shouldn't take his love for granted.

The rap you hear, is the mainstream garbage put out by 50 cent and Soulja Boy talking about how he get's money, or superman-ing that h-e. I hate that garbage. I love rap, don't get me wrong, but I love it more when it's got meaning, and that's why I downloaded it when it leaked and bought The Carter III when it came out.

1818.6.2008 22:47

Originally posted by Rudeboi:


Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything.
going to get a lot of sh*t here, but i'm sick and tired of people complaining about new orleans and how nothing is getting done.....

thats their own fault for building a city next to the ocean that is under the freaking sea level!! that would be like me building a house on top of MT. ST. Helens and then go crying when the damn volcano explodes and i lose everything.
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1918.6.2008 23:11

Quote:
Originally posted by Rudeboi:


Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything.
going to get a lot of sh*t here, but i'm sick and tired of people complaining about new orleans and how nothing is getting done.....

thats their own fault for building a city next to the ocean that is under the freaking sea level!! that would be like me building a house on top of MT. ST. Helens and then go crying when the damn volcano explodes and i lose everything.
Tell me about it. Hurricanes have been hitting the gulfcoast forever. A devastating storm isn't just likely, it's a guarantee. I've never understood why people would build below sea level or on barrier islands and then whine when they get nailed by the big one. Look at all the things that were done in holland to prevent these types of flood disasters. But the morons in nola didn't learn anything, they'll just half-ass rebuild it and it'll just happen again.

2018.6.2008 23:18

heck, i have more sympathy for the people in the midwest that got the freak flood that takes out entire states. i mean when was the last hurricane that hit a gulf state? last month or something? when was the last flood that caused an entire state to enter into a state of emergency in the midwest, 20 years ago??

2119.6.2008 00:12

Quote:
Originally posted by Rudeboi:


Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything.
going to get a lot of sh*t here, but i'm sick and tired of people complaining about new orleans and how nothing is getting done.....

thats their own fault for building a city next to the ocean that is under the freaking sea level!! that would be like me building a house on top of MT. ST. Helens and then go crying when the damn volcano explodes and i lose everything.
People shouldn't give you sh*t for that, I understand where you are coming from, it was a dumb move on whoever made that city.

I'm not too brushed up on the whole NO situation (I guess living in Canada puts you in a dark corner), but, is anything being done to fix that city? Is all the water out or is the city actually underwater now?

2219.6.2008 00:41

its still in the process of being rebuilt, but from what i've read/watched on the news its pretty much all dried out and all, just rebuilding the city as it was before.

and your right that people shouldnt give me sh*t about it, but there are those out there that would be like, oh how can you be like that, its sad that they couldnt do anything about it, or nothing is being done for them. when they had plenty of warning that it was coming, and could have left, and could rebuild their own darn houses/towns as many other people do after a tornado/flood. heck, i'm in the process of rebuilding our vacation house in WI due to the massive floodings up here and there isnt anything we could have done since the house is about 20 feet above the lake; its just what happens when you get 18 inches of rain overnight.

2319.6.2008 00:49

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by Rudeboi:


Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything.
going to get a lot of sh*t here, but i'm sick and tired of people complaining about new orleans and how nothing is getting done.....

thats their own fault for building a city next to the ocean that is under the freaking sea level!! that would be like me building a house on top of MT. ST. Helens and then go crying when the damn volcano explodes and i lose everything.
People shouldn't give you sh*t for that, I understand where you are coming from, it was a dumb move on whoever made that city.

I'm not too brushed up on the whole NO situation (I guess living in Canada puts you in a dark corner), but, is anything being done to fix that city? Is all the water out or is the city actually underwater now?
you should only take flak for saying something like "they shouldn't have rebuilt it."
regardless of how true it may be.


also, i don't consider buying a major(riaa)-label artist's cd to be supporting them.
the royalties they get from the cd's seem to be low and on a downturn.
i only break boycott on accident, and it's only happened once.

if you want good rap, get aesop rock's newest release none shall pass.
his stuff is amazing and unique, and of course independently produced and distributed.



with the off-topic out of the way:
he's doing his job as a modern major-label artist.
nowadays they all pretty much either tour or put out Something non-stop.

2419.6.2008 07:26

Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!
Hmph why is it that it's only white people that pass judgment on rap? I know plenty of people right here in NY and NJ, and the majority of them are either african american, hispanic, or asian. They each have their own taste in music, and a lot of them dislike rap for their own reason. Actually, most of the white people I know embrace this music. So really the generalization of only white people "hating" so to speak is wrong.

This has turned more into an argument instead of a discussion. To avoid any complications I'm done with this topic.

2519.6.2008 08:51

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by lxfactor:
i bought 2 copies =D

clean version from wal-mart..
(i just found out wal-mart only carries clean versions)
i couldnt return it...

so i went to target and got the explicit version.. =]

we support good artist and good music.. lil wayne is FIRE =]

and if ur not sure what people see.. its matching groups of words that sound good together.. soo good that nobody ever thought about it before.. like woww.. did he just say that!?!? because one word can have multiple meanings.. sounds pretty good.. common shouldn't have won the lyricist of the year.. but whatever, i guess being too cocky has its prices too.

Wallmart is "Purs'tanical" you can buy NC17 unrated dvds but god forbid you buy PG13+ songs!
I know right. I was shocked to see that they carried Rob Zombies version of Halloween. That movie has more sex, violence, and curse words then most cd's out there.

Iknow its so fakein its family friendlyness its not funny....and thebastards have the balls to cling to the shallow we R family friendly please buy from us so that china can rule you.


uuuhhggggg
And then I went looking for a clean version of one song, so I headed to good ol' Wal-Mart, and both the retail and online stores do not carry the CD at all. Turns out the band didn't have a "clean" version of it's CD, so I'm outta luck. Thanks for nothing Wal-Mart!

Yeah, and they also carry games like GTA IV. LOL, hypocrites.

2619.6.2008 10:14

Like I said in my last post Lil Wayne gives out free music almost weekly, yes people to steal his sh**, but the real fans still end up buying his music.

WeeZy F BabY

2719.6.2008 10:29
goodswipe
Inactive

Originally posted by Rudeboi:
Quote:
Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!
because its been 30 years since gold country sang about druging,cheating,sex and "work" I mean really.... its easy to dis rap but you ever take hard long look at rock or classic/new country?
See, that's the thing. I could say that new or classic country sing about there wiskey, but that is a stereotype, and that is what you are doing, stereotyping rap, saying it only talks about 'drugs, cheating, sex', you obviously haven't heard The Carter III.

Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything. As well as his track, 'Dontgetit' (This is the same track as 'Misunderstood' that fgamer is talking about). He is talking about the black minorities and how the jail is full of crack dealers and not the real criminals, the rapiest and such. The other track 'Dr. Carter', the lyrics and the way he puts his words together, is amazing. Comfortable, is another good track, it's about a woman, and how she shouldn't take his love for granted.


LOL, a crack dealer isn't a real criminal? C'mon dude, crack kills! Any form of cocaine, smoked or snorted, is one of the worst things someone could do.

2819.6.2008 11:18

Quote:
Originally posted by Rudeboi:
Quote:
Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!
because its been 30 years since gold country sang about druging,cheating,sex and "work" I mean really.... its easy to dis rap but you ever take hard long look at rock or classic/new country?
See, that's the thing. I could say that new or classic country sing about there wiskey, but that is a stereotype, and that is what you are doing, stereotyping rap, saying it only talks about 'drugs, cheating, sex', you obviously haven't heard The Carter III.

Like I said, listen to 'Tie My Hands' he's rapping about New Orleans and how his city is underwater and that the mayor isn't doing anything. As well as his track, 'Dontgetit' (This is the same track as 'Misunderstood' that fgamer is talking about). He is talking about the black minorities and how the jail is full of crack dealers and not the real criminals, the rapiest and such. The other track 'Dr. Carter', the lyrics and the way he puts his words together, is amazing. Comfortable, is another good track, it's about a woman, and how she shouldn't take his love for granted.


LOL, a crack dealer isn't a real criminal? C'mon dude, crack kills! Any form of cocaine, smoked or snorted, is one of the worst things someone could do.
I understand that, drugs are horrible and the dealers themselves are criminals none-the-less. But if you think about it, the people who are buying the drugs, it's their own fault, they shouldn't have started it in the first place, they had control at one point in their life.

While criminals like rapiest, sex offenders, murderers, the victims of those crimes, almost cannot control the situation they get put in, it's really not their fault that they will get raped or get involved in a drive-by.

2919.6.2008 13:04

lol this topic got way off topic.. i live in southern florida.. ive been thru every hurricane since andrew (95).. ive gone out in the middle of them and smoked cigarettes.. they arent that bad.. i guess all the water just destroyed the city.. rebuild.. thats all there is left to say.. we do it every year.. and best believe we are gonna get hit once again with more hurricanes.. but anyways crack is very bad. and we know we don't have to buy cds in order for the artist to recieve money.. but its more of a stand up to media companies.. come out with better music and artist.. and we will support them.. don't release a crappy asss soulja boy cd and expect everyone to buy it because he came out with 1 good song.. that got boring after 2 weeks.. come out with real music.. doesnt matter if its the north or south, where ever.

3019.6.2008 13:50
fgamer
Inactive

Quote:
Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.


Some of the tracks on the album actually speak allot on political real life stuff that's going on, it's actually educational in a sense, just listen to the track "misunderstood" and you'll hear allot of what black/minorities in general go through. But some people wont see past their pre-judgements because they're bigots. So listen to the album at least before you brush it off as crap!!
Hmph why is it that it's only white people that pass judgment on rap? I know plenty of people right here in NY and NJ, and the majority of them are either african american, hispanic, or asian. They each have their own taste in music, and a lot of them dislike rap for their own reason. Actually, most of the white people I know embrace this music. So really the generalization of only white people "hating" so to speak is wrong.

This has turned more into an argument instead of a discussion. To avoid any complications I'm done with this topic.
Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.

3119.6.2008 14:28
goodswipe
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Quote:
and we know we don't have to buy cds in order for the artist to recieve money..
Yea, because they are already "hood rich". ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yp2U-SsX8E&feature=related


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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.
Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.
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3219.6.2008 21:21

CD's still give you the BEST sound you can buy!

3319.6.2008 21:29

wow, way off into talking about racism.
it's all cultural differences and intolerance, really.

srsly, though, aesop rock ftw. i listened to nothing but his stuff all day and my brain is buzzing now.




also, i still maintain that BUYING A CD FROM AN RIAA MEMBER LABEL IS NOT SUPPORTING THE ARTIST.
visit their official sites, go to their shows and turn on other people.
this is the way to support major label artists, considering how the riaa decides how many records they'll sell.

3421.6.2008 22:32
fgamer
Inactive

Quote:
Quote:
and we know we don't have to buy cds in order for the artist to recieve money..
Yea, because they are already "hood rich". ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yp2U-SsX8E&feature=related


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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.
Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.
The most racist people are actually white people, young and old (so get it right). Black people don't have a group such as the "KKK" that spews hate, encourages violence and the destroying of other races. You know what race has group of that nature? White people, so you failed! I'll say it again and sure some mod may not like what I say becuase they're probably white and are gonna mod me (I've been on this site for a while now and support it heavily but some people annoy the crap out of me - and I won't say which particular group either), but white people are racist people BY FAR HANDS DOWN!! "Fact"

3521.6.2008 22:37

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and we know we don't have to buy cds in order for the artist to recieve money..
Yea, because they are already "hood rich". ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yp2U-SsX8E&feature=related


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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.
Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.
The most racist people are actually white people, young and old (so get it right). Black people don't have a group such as the "KKK" that spews hate, encourages violence and the destroying of other races. You know what race has group of that nature? White people, so you failed! I'll say it again and sure some mod may not like what I say becuase they're probably white and are gonna mod me (I've been on this site for a while now and support it heavily but some people annoy the crap out of me - and I won't say which particular group either), but white people are racist people BY FAR HANDS DOWN!! "Fact"

sadly the blacks do have hate groups and give as much as they take on racist and stupid grounds, however because of the PC zero thought police the mentalities are you can't be non white and a racist.

There is more than enough ignorance and petty hate to go around for both sides.

3621.6.2008 23:12
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and we know we don't have to buy cds in order for the artist to recieve money..
Yea, because they are already "hood rich". ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yp2U-SsX8E&feature=related


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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.
Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.
The most racist people are actually white people, young and old (so get it right). Black people don't have a group such as the "KKK" that spews hate, encourages violence and the destroying of other races. You know what race has group of that nature? White people, so you failed! I'll say it again and sure some mod may not like what I say becuase they're probably white and are gonna mod me (I've been on this site for a while now and support it heavily but some people annoy the crap out of me - and I won't say which particular group either), but white people are racist people BY FAR HANDS DOWN!! "Fact"

sadly the blacks do have hate groups and give as much as they take on racist and stupid grounds, however because of the PC zero thought police the mentalities are you can't be non white and a racist.

There is more than enough ignorance and petty hate to go around for both sides.
The key word you failed to pay attention to is the word "MOST," I didn't say that there isn't any black racist, I said "MOST" white people ARE racist. Obviously racist people exist in every race, but I know the majority of racist out there are white. I don't expect a racist person to consider their group of people to be racist which is why you have blinding shades over your eyes. So you failed to provide a valid rebuttal. Go to youtube.com and look at any comment section with black people in the videos and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about, and that's an example of what my point brings. And don't start that "how do you know if they're white crap," because it doesn't take the *PC* genious *thought* *police* to figure out it's some white guy behind his keyboard getting off by making racist remarks. Also, it'd be nice if you named one racist black group and not some made up group you thought of in your head or google'd.

3722.6.2008 00:29

fgamer
Nation of Yahweh,Black panthers(altho thier just a civ group like the klan was...minus the power to kill indacrimanity of coarse), I would name others brother but I hate E dick contests because my package is as big as most of the "discussions" failing it always imanet.

Even tho you said you say you "think most" its sad you think blacks are so pure in this, I call BS look to youtube with the black victimization thats seeping through a quarter of the vids, even if some of it is reasonable gripes most of it is petty ignorance and people bashing.

Also with the prevalent use of derogatory words in pop culture its hard to separate thos that front and diss to be cool from some of the more inbreed members of society.

Rasiscisim is nothing mroe than a form of human pettyness a crutch to lift some up and bring others down, because it lifts some up it will not be an easy thing to be rid of because thos that do it are blinded by fear and the ignorance thats protects them from reality, you want to try and say its all the white man fault keep at it, just add another link of ignorance to your own chains of protection.

BTW if you want to contenuie this do drop me a PM we can rant about the Resident evil 5 and killing the poor black zombies too =^^=.

3822.6.2008 01:32
fgamer
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
fgamer
Nation of Yahweh,Black panthers(altho thier just a civ group like the klan was...minus the power to kill indacrimanity of coarse), I would name others brother but I hate E dick contests because my package is as big as most of the "discussions" failing it always imanet.

Even tho you said you say you "think most" its sad you think blacks are so pure in this, I call BS look to youtube with the black victimization thats seeping through a quarter of the vids, even if some of it is reasonable gripes most of it is petty ignorance and people bashing.

Also with the prevalent use of derogatory words in pop culture its hard to separate thos that front and diss to be cool from some of the more inbreed members of society.

Rasiscisim is nothing mroe than a form of human pettyness a crutch to lift some up and bring others down, because it lifts some up it will not be an easy thing to be rid of because thos that do it are blinded by fear and the ignorance thats protects them from reality, you want to try and say its all the white man fault keep at it, just add another link of ignorance to your own chains of protection.

BTW if you want to contenuie this do drop me a PM we can rant about the Resident evil 5 and killing the poor black zombies too =^^=.
If I could actually understand half the words in your comment that'd help tramendously, but unfortunately you might have failed a grade or two in school, because you can't make a legible coherent sentence at all. And the "Nation of Yahweh" group you specified is some group that's made up of a few people that were angry from racist crap done by white people (so you failed again). Also the black panthers were not anti-white the way the KKK are anti-black and anti-minorities. The black panthers actually was an African-American organization established to promote civil rights and self-defense. Only a racist person would actually consider the black panthers to be racist, because they actually were established to protect blacks from all the horrendous vile disgusting crimes that whites committed against blacks. So you actually need to revaluate your position on that. I don't go off of any sypmathy that you refer to, I go off of facts, something that you haven't summoned upon yet!! Now YOUR racism really shows.

3922.6.2008 01:51

fgamer
what facts?
you have gave none backed up none of your statements with any links you assume that numerous stupid comments equate to things being one sided/one way, and to that I call BS.

I'll admit the Nation of Yahweh thing was dumb since I didn't bother to read the details about it, but there again do you really want to get into e dick contest of whos worse?

My point is which you are brushing off because you would rather blame white people than humans for the ills of blacks is my point, thos that cling to racism are not the supposed majority alone, clinging to cultural ways of division breeds it more than saying fck it I wont play the baiting game.

And yes I am stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Gramamr is very difficult for me then again it seems reading comperhention and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of some people.

What I am getting at the core of your argument that most whites are racist is flawed its like saying most religious people are ignorant, most people are just that people busy with their day to day lives racisim, sexisim, reading comperhention/comperhention, critical thinking/thinking are beyond them for practical purposes, this dose not mean there is not areas of discontent with X but it goes beyond you petty argument most white folk are ebil thats theres nothing wrong with black folk even if Bill cosby says we got issues...but then looking at modern cultures who dosen't.

Again if I am not making myself clear, you want to make this into a black and white issue when its mutably gray.

4022.6.2008 02:58
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
fgamer
what facts?
you have gave none backed up none of your statements with any links you assume that numerous stupid comments equate to things being one sided/one way, and to that I call BS.

I'll admit the Nation of Yahweh thing was dumb since I didn't bother to read the details about it, but there again do you really want to get into e dick contest of whos worse?

My point is which you are brushing off because you would rather blame white people than humans for the ills of blacks is my point, thos that cling to racism are not the supposed majority alone, clinging to cultural ways of division breeds it more than saying fck it I wont play the baiting game.

And yes I am stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Gramamr is very difficult for me then again it seems reading comperhention and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of some people.

What I am getting at the core of your argument that most whites are racist is flawed its like saying most religious people are ignorant, most people are just that people busy with their day to day lives racisim, sexisim, reading comperhention/comperhention, critical thinking/thinking are beyond them for practical purposes, this dose not mean there is not areas of discontent with X but it goes beyond you petty argument most white folk are ebil thats theres nothing wrong with black folk even if Bill cosby says we got issues...but then looking at modern cultures who dosen't.

Again if I am not making myself clear, you want to make this into a black and white issue when its mutably gray.
I shouldn't have to provide you with links to some wikipedia site which you ripped most of your google'd garbage from anyways. I'm sure you can type in black-panthers yourself or google it. You even admitted that you didn't read the "Nation of Yahweh thing you looked up YOURSELF, so that leads me to believe that you're COMPLETELY cluless about anything and simply googling anything you can find that resembles the phrase "racist black groups."

You're not very bright, so anything else from this point on that you say is irrelavent and made up to try and help salvage your failed attempts at dissolving my facts. Face it, you don't research anything before you comment on it, which you basically in a nutshell admitted to yourself by NOT READING or understanding YOUR OWN made-up-facts which is actually embarrassing for you!! What a shame..

4122.6.2008 03:07

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fgamer
what facts?
you have gave none backed up none of your statements with any links you assume that numerous stupid comments equate to things being one sided/one way, and to that I call BS.

I'll admit the Nation of Yahweh thing was dumb since I didn't bother to read the details about it, but there again do you really want to get into e dick contest of whos worse?

My point is which you are brushing off because you would rather blame white people than humans for the ills of blacks is my point, thos that cling to racism are not the supposed majority alone, clinging to cultural ways of division breeds it more than saying fck it I wont play the baiting game.

And yes I am stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Gramamr is very difficult for me then again it seems reading comperhention and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of some people.

What I am getting at the core of your argument that most whites are racist is flawed its like saying most religious people are ignorant, most people are just that people busy with their day to day lives racisim, sexisim, reading comperhention/comperhention, critical thinking/thinking are beyond them for practical purposes, this dose not mean there is not areas of discontent with X but it goes beyond you petty argument most white folk are ebil thats theres nothing wrong with black folk even if Bill cosby says we got issues...but then looking at modern cultures who dosen't.

Again if I am not making myself clear, you want to make this into a black and white issue when its mutably gray.
I shouldn't have to provide you with links to some wikipedia site which you ripped most of your google'd garbage from anyways. I'm sure you can type in black-panthers yourself or google it. You even admitted that you didn't read the "Nation of Yahweh thing you looked up YOURSELF, so that leads me to believe that you're COMPLETELY cluless about anything and simply googling anything you can find that resembles the phrase "racist black groups."

You're not very bright, so anything else from this point on that you say is irrelavent and made up to try and help salvage your failed attempts at dissolving my facts. Face it, you don't research anything before you comment on it, which you basically in a nutshell admitted to yourself by NOT READING or understanding YOUR OWN made-up-facts which is actually embarrassing for you!! What a shame..
Actually I wanted to deflect poser talk with some lose info and grabbed whatever was avalible(since it can be "interesting" and subtle to find info on non white racists), since you are as unable to bring facts to the argument and calling people names most can tell who's the moronic bigot here and its not me, I'm just a fool that thinks humans are pathetic creatures that hate equally.

4222.6.2008 04:03
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^^ Very nice the way you tried to resort to more name calling because of your failed attempts to make sense. It's ok, I understand that you couldn't debate this issue with me using facts so you had to avoid MY facts and make up your own stuff and begin further name calling. I know you know that you made up anything that would sound good to rebutt me with, but it's funny because you've failed everytime.

So try harder buddy! I also can tell who's the bigot here, and it's the one constantly responding to me with comments defending their own bigotry subconsciously (or perhaps consciously). It's pretty obvious just from you saying that the black panthers are a racist organization, you have deep racism built inside and you try to mask it with non-valid false wannabe facts.

Face the fact that you claimed the BP's to be racist when in fact they were to protect black people from whites brutality of murder, rape, torture and many other horrendous acts done. That to me seems like a group of people fed up with such acts, and needed a movement/group to accomplish an end to it. If you don't understand that then you pretty much do qualify as a bigot and will say anything to protect your imorral view(s).

4323.6.2008 12:28
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Dude, get off it already. "Most" black people are just about as racist as white people, it's 50/50 here bro. Think about it, they are like the Jews and Muslims. Most of them hate each other, there's no way around it. So saying that white people are more racist then black people is just about as ignorant as racism it's self.

You're actually the one that sounds pretty racist here. You were the first one to cast the stone bro, no one was even really talking about black or white.

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Face the fact that you claimed the BP's to be racist when in fact they were to protect black people from whites brutality of murder, rape, torture and many other horrendous acts done.
So does this mean that black people don't do any of those things? Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading and brush up your knowledge on the subject.

How can you not understand anything Zippy said? I understood every bit of what he was saying.
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4423.6.2008 15:34
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Dude, get off it already. "Most" black people are just about as racist as white people, it's 50/50 here bro. Think about it, they are like the Jews and Muslims. Most of them hate each other, there's no way around it. So saying that white people are more racist then black people is just about as ignorant as racism it's self.

You're actually the one that sounds pretty racist here. You were the first one to cast the stone bro, no one was even really talking about black or white.

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Face the fact that you claimed the BP's to be racist when in fact they were to protect black people from whites brutality of murder, rape, torture and many other horrendous acts done.
So does this mean that black people don't do any of those things? Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading and brush up your knowledge on the subject.

How can you not understand anything Zippy said? I understood every bit of what he was saying.
OF course you understand Zippy because you're racist like him "BRO," and I know you're white because you say "BRO" way too much! SO I don't really expect you to agree with me, obviously you also have racist issues =D As I said before, white people are more racist and now white people try to play reverse racism to cover up their own racist views. Kinda like what you and Zippy are doing. It's absolutely hilarious because you know I'm right.

4523.6.2008 15:53
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Actually you are an a$$hat.l I keep out of race arguments because I live and work in a multicultural environment, and believe, you get way more discrimination and abuse as a woman from men, be they black, white or yellow, than you get from another woman because of your skin colour.

Racism boils down to one simple thing.. feeling threatened by somebody else because they are different. They wear different clothes, listen to different music, have different skin, speak an alien language.. That's it, plain and simple.

When people eventually realise that we are born (no choice there) we live for a while doing whet we need to survive (again not much choice) and then we die (sometimes we have a choice, but not always) all exactly the same regardless of race, colour or creed then everything will get much better.. Remember the civil rights people back in the 60's.. they didn't want anything other than equality under the law (which actually they already had in most states, and had had since the 1860's). Not as crapheads like "the nation of islam" would paint it now.. which is they want it all, with non islam (read white) being excluded. There you have the threat, and that is the root cause.. while people seperate themselves due to colour, race or creed there will always be this conflict. Religion being one hateful driving force, and ignorance being the other.

That's my lot.. read and digest.

4623.6.2008 15:53
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You're being racist by assuming I'm white because I said "bro". Like I said before, you're the one that came here and started playing the race card - what racist do. Your first comment on this page didn't even have anything to do with the article, you just came here looking to spread your racist hate.

And who are you to say that white people are more racist? What facts do you have, other then your ignorant views, to back that up? And me not understand, what is there to not understand other then the fact that blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, and everybody else in the world can be racist - just like you.


If you really think I'm racist, why don't you go and look at my previous comments before you came along - doesn't look racist to me, I was actually talking good about the artist!


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Originally posted by 21Q:
Not sure what people see in this kind of music. That's all I really have to say.
It's a cultural thing, you wouldn't understand.

If music is good, people will buy it. P2P networks will not hold a good artist back.

Originally posted by goodswipe:
You gotta remember where he got his influence from. Texas and Louisiana rap - mostly Texas style. Check out anything from DEA, SUC, or any other OG Houston rapper. That's where it's at my friend, so not commercial, that is until everyone started catching on.
Now your first comment..

Originally posted by fgamer:
Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.
Who the hell said anything about them being white and not liking the album or artist because of that? I didn't see one person say anything of that nature. But you come here and play the race card. So get over yourself and move along now.
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4723.6.2008 20:42
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and we know we don't have to buy cds in order for the artist to recieve money..
Yea, because they are already "hood rich". ;)

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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.
goodswipe

Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.
Interesting how you say I should look at your previous comments and look where you wrote yourself saying "The most racist people are actually old, black men." So you've already proved yourself as racist and mindless for missing that tidbit. If you all say I have no facts to back up my claims of white people being more racist, then what facts do you have to back up your very own claims saying they aren't? Exactly you don't! I know who the real ignorant person(s) are and it's definately not me. I think we all know white people are very racist people whether you've convinced yourselves that or otherwise.

I also see you all conveniently ignored the comment he made earlier saying "old-black people are the most racist." Of course you all would ignore that comment because you're to busy defending your own racist views and you share his same thoughts because...yes..you're white! Go figure, typical white people for ya.
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4824.6.2008 10:29
goodswipe
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I'm just going to finish this childish, mind numbing conversation with the following...

My previous statement about old black men being more racist then anyone, was taken from a stand up act by Chris Rock, Bigger and Blacker - hmm, do racist watch Chris Rock? But of course your racist mentality has angered you so much, and filled your head with stupidity, that you can not actually look at what's being said. Instead, you would rather continue on spreading your racist hate. ;)

Like I said before, you are the one that played the race card from the very begining - you're the racist sir! I can understand someone saying what you did if race had been in the news article, or someone said something racist, but they didn't. Crazy radical racist, like yourself, pray upon things like this just so you can spread your hate - I know your kind sir!

But here's my favorite part about your last comment. Read along with me, shall we.

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and look where you wrote yourself saying "The most racist people are actually old, black men." So you've already proved yourself as racist and mindless for missing that tidbit.
So, If by me saying that makes me a racist, then what does this make you?

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Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth!
LMFAO @ you! Get over yourself already "bro". You are just setting yourself up for failure with anymore posts. If you want to continue on with this discussion, I will be MORE then happy to talk to you in pm.

4924.6.2008 10:34

this thread has gotten completely off of subject

5024.6.2008 10:40
goodswipe
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Originally posted by tucker001:
this thread has gotten completely off of subject
Yea, you can thank the a$$ clown above my post for that. Racist love to come along and stir up trouble when there's no need for it.

5124.6.2008 21:37
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I'm just going to finish this childish, mind numbing conversation with the following...

My previous statement about old black men being more racist then anyone, was taken from a stand up act by Chris Rock, Bigger and Blacker - hmm, do racist watch Chris Rock? But of course your racist mentality has angered you so much, and filled your head with stupidity, that you can not actually look at what's being said. Instead, you would rather continue on spreading your racist hate. ;)

Like I said before, you are the one that played the race card from the very begining - you're the racist sir! I can understand someone saying what you did if race had been in the news article, or someone said something racist, but they didn't. Crazy radical racist, like yourself, pray upon things like this just so you can spread your hate - I know your kind sir!

But here's my favorite part about your last comment. Read along with me, shall we.

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and look where you wrote yourself saying "The most racist people are actually old, black men." So you've already proved yourself as racist and mindless for missing that tidbit.
So, If by me saying that makes me a racist, then what does this make you?

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Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth!
LMFAO @ you! Get over yourself already "bro". You are just setting yourself up for failure with anymore posts. If you want to continue on with this discussion, I will be MORE then happy to talk to you in pm.
OK, the reason I said your comment equals racism is because you know it's a blatant lie, and still yet you disseminate it as truth. As opposed to my comment saying white people are more racist is based off of fact. That's why me saying white people are more racist isn't me being racist but speaking off of truth. White people indulged in slavery and racism for years and years, so you can't tell me that their racist ideology has changed overnight. You go into any Halo game or any Xbox Live online game in general and all you hear is a bunch of white people saying "N***" this "N***" that. I stand by my claims of caucasian's being more racist, and you know it's true. I guess the truth hearts your little racist's hearts!

5224.6.2008 21:58
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and all you hear is a bunch of white people saying "N***" this "N***" that
And what do you hear nearly every other line of the average rap song?? "N***" this "N***" that".. so it's OK for blacks to use that word but not whites? Ever heard of freedom of speech?
Personally I find the majority of rap deeply offensive because of the sentiments expressed towards women who are usually referred to as whores and bitches.. So you can publicly call me a whore or a slut or a bitch, but I'm not allowed to use the word nigger... There is something very very wrong here!! PC my ass.. If somebody of one colour can use a word, but somebody of another can't then I'm afraid my friends that that is racism.. plain and simple. Now get the hell of my beach before I shoot you.

5324.6.2008 23:44

if you take off lil waynes tattoos he's just a lil baby on drugs

5424.6.2008 23:45

I wish somebody would just lock this thread because it is getting nowhere.

5525.6.2008 08:32
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and all you hear is a bunch of white people saying "N***" this "N***" that
And what do you hear nearly every other line of the average rap song?? "N***" this "N***" that".. so it's OK for blacks to use that word but not whites? Ever heard of freedom of speech?
Personally I find the majority of rap deeply offensive because of the sentiments expressed towards women who are usually referred to as whores and bitches.. So you can publicly call me a whore or a slut or a bitch, but I'm not allowed to use the word nigger... There is something very very wrong here!! PC my ass.. If somebody of one colour can use a word, but somebody of another can't then I'm afraid my friends that that is racism.. plain and simple. Now get the hell of my beach before I shoot you.
OK, and why would you need to use the word "N****" word, because one race uses it so you want to use it also( it sounds so 3rd grade)? Obviously you'd only be using the "N" word to support your own racism! Do you hear black people using racist words and other derogatory remarks OFTEN, such as calling white people trailer trash, crackers, honkey-tonks, red-necks, incest mongers, white bread, pale face, casper, animal hair and incest-child molesters? You don't even hear black people mention white peoples lack of using soap when they shower, I could go on but I think you get the point!
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5625.6.2008 14:35
goodswipe
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Originally posted by tucker001:
if you take off lil waynes tattoos he's just a lil baby on drugs
LOL, be careful my friend. Some might consider that a racist statement.

5725.6.2008 14:45

i have nuthing else 2 say

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5825.6.2008 18:29
fgamer
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Originally posted by tucker001:
i have nuthing else 2 say
Good you shouldn't, you've proved who you are. =D

5925.6.2008 20:45

while I am feeling wordy why not try and read what I said and think about it I went after PCisim and rascisim of any kind focusing my train of thought on the stupidity of ignorance and PCisim after all PCisim is to color words with lies and mis truth thus why I have my own set of intolerance for it, the rest of my droolings were not rassict, poorly wordy and stupid more like since I was not feeling wordy and got bent out of shape over the one sided race baiting that started up.

Heres a reason why I am not a rasicst I don;t see by color, I like Obama and will vote for him as the lesser of evils, I comperhand the words and meaning of what his controversial preachers said sure anyone with a mind can see the black victimization in the tone but at the same time hes preaching to the choir is like watching a brimstone baptists talk about hellfire damnation and sinners what they said was not that bad at all, yet the media dove into it hoping that the witless masses would eat it up because the witless masses lack critical thinking skills.

I am many a thing crazy, moronic, foolish, immature, selfish, lazy but I am neither a sexist,theorists/creedisist or racist.

I believe that truthful reality should NOT be protected from the masses which means I can easily side against politically correct methodology and thinking.

holly crisps me and lost words ><

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6025.6.2008 21:12
varnull
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Well... just to report a first. You can still get glasto tickets with less than 2 days to the start, mostly due to some other talentless shouter topping the bill.

6125.6.2008 21:14

Im going to close this as its getting out of hand and WAY off topic.

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