For the second time this month, a leaked catalog picture shows that Microsoft is set to drop the price of the Xbox 360 Elite to $299 USD.
That's nice to see. Now can we please get a price drop on the 120GB HDD from $120 to $80-90?
Personally I'd love to see the price cut done to the HDD rather than the console at this point; the console doesn't need one yet and MS seems rather stanced on them not doing a price-cut. Just because Wal-Mart does a roll back doesn't mean the system is permanently going to be that price, I've seen roll-backs go up in price.
Until again, MS confirms it, I takes these tidbits as the grain of salt they are worth.
Pfft $299 nz now that's a deal in U.S Dollars that's like 500 nz & it's not even flashed
Why would anyone thing this is a good deal? For the same price you can get the PS3 Slim a much better system with an equally good yet free network, can have any laptop 500gb HDD installed for half the price of the 360 HDD, real 1080p resolution, and Blu-Ray.
$299 for a DVD9 game console that maxes at 720p resolution is a joke now that Sony has stepped up to the plate. The market is saturated with 360 owners, they should now keep us happy and not give us a reason to get a PS3. At this point if M$ wants to win the sales game they need to help us 360 owners that already have the console happy. lower XBL to $30, cut the costs on peripherals (i.e. the HDD, the Wi-Fi antenna, etc.) That would go a long way. Because in the grand scheme of things with both systems at the same price, most people with half a brain would get the much better PS3.
If they want to stay on top they need to change their game and support their only real advantage over Sony. Their strength in numbers. And keep the millions they have now happy.
It may sounds silly but i honesty dont know
The elite version has at least rechargeable controllers via usb?
If it hasnt well imo thats a joke.
what's better about the ps3 apart from it's paid bloggers who we like to laugh at??
Originally posted by varnull:oh dear...
what's better about the ps3 apart from it's paid bloggers who we like to laugh at??
Originally posted by varnull:Me sitting on the couch watching a movie on the PS3.
what's better about the ps3 apart from it's paid bloggers who we like to laugh at??
Originally posted by SDF_GR:Omfg, if you don't know anything about the topic at hand than don't post! Elite has a 120gb hard drive, if you knew anything about the xbox you would know that. Seriously, ps3 owners stick to their news and xbox 360 owners will stick to theirs (I can go to both since I have all systems). Comments like SDF's starts flame wars.
It may sounds silly but i honesty dont know
The elite version has at least rechargeable controllers via usb?
If it hasnt well imo thats a joke.
Originally posted by jookycola:If people wanted a dumbed down version ps3, that looks like square laptop with matte black colour that was a last ditch effor to salvage sony's future than we would buy a ps3 slim. But instead people choose to buy the xbox 360... go figure.
Why would anyone thing this is a good deal? For the same price you can get the PS3 Slim a much better system with an equally good yet free network, can have any laptop 500gb HDD installed for half the price of the 360 HDD, real 1080p resolution, and Blu-Ray.
Originally posted by varnull:But varnull, imagine how boring the internet would be without sonydefenseforce.com.
what's better about the ps3 apart from it's paid bloggers who we like to laugh at??
If I want to watch a movie, that's what my PC is for. It's not like it costs very much to get one connected to your HDTV and have it run at 1080p, slap on a BluRay and done. I prefer my consoles to be what the soul purpose of them should have stayed at, gaming..
Honestly I feel that the gaming industry has been soiled ever since marketing strategy has focused to the masses. That's even going back to the first console to incorporate DVD movie, or using a cell phone as a console. How much $ could have been saved if the companies in the hardware business simply focused on gaming, rather than a multi-function all in one entertainment system. PC's were built for that function, why do I need a PC and a game console to do everything that a PC does, or a hand held that does everything a cell phone and a portable PC / hand-held device does? We don't need every console to mimic one another either, to give me my choice of how I wanna watch something; like it was so much fucking easier when VHS and DVD's were just the standard, and everyone had to bite it.
Now, they will never go back; it will always be about entertaining the masses, because now buying a game console is not about buying it for games; because now you can play with avatars, chat instantly, link to your favorite social sites, and now add gimmicky peripherals and YAY US! As a hard core gamer, I can't help but feel let down, and people wonder why games are $50-100 a title on release, well now you know. Peace out.
Originally posted by chris4160:They only start "flame wars" because people like you decide to respond to them. If you don't agree with it, so be it. You're speaking on the most open network: the internet.
Comments like SDF's starts flame wars.
I can't tell from the picture, and it's not listed-- I don't see that this version comes with and HDMI cable. So if not you can add another $50 to that price. Does anyone know if it comes with it or not?
Originally posted by sideffx:Well I can get a HDMI cable for only $12 each locally and I'm sure everyone else can too somewhere but most people are stupid and think the more expensive the cable the better, even though they're both the same. That's where Best Buy comes in :/
I can't tell from the picture, and it's not listed-- I don't see that this version comes with and HDMI cable. So if not you can add another $50 to that price. Does anyone know if it comes with it or not?
Originally posted by sideffx: I can't tell from the picture, and it's not listed-- I don't see that this version comes with and HDMI cable. So if not you can add another $50 to that price. Does anyone know if it comes with it or not?
Well I can get a HDMI cable for only $12 each locally and I'm sure everyone else can too somewhere but most people are stupid and think the more expensive the cable the better, even though they're both the same. That's where Best Buy comes in :/ Good to know! Guess I'm stupid...It's just that every HD product I own came with the HDMI cable so I've never shopped around for low prices. I just always see them in stores for about 50 bucks. Also not sure (I'll check) but it's been my experience that you get what you pay for, and I'm sure not all cables are the same quality regardless of the price. I'm sure you CAN get equal quality cables for less, but are you saying EVERY HDMI cable is the same? I kinda doubt that. Then again I'm probably in the "most people...stupid" category.
Quote:Another typical fanboy pretending to be unbiased.Originally posted by SDF_GR:Omfg, if you don't know anything about the topic at hand than don't post! Elite has a 120gb hard drive, if you knew anything about the xbox you would know that. Seriously, ps3 owners stick to their news and xbox 360 owners will stick to theirs (I can go to both since I have all systems). Comments like SDF's starts flame wars.
It may sounds silly but i honesty dont know
The elite version has at least rechargeable controllers via usb?
If it hasnt well imo thats a joke.
Originally posted by jookycola:If people wanted a dumbed down version ps3, that looks like square laptop with matte black colour that was a last ditch effor to salvage sony's future than we would buy a ps3 slim. But instead people choose to buy the xbox 360... go figure.
Why would anyone thing this is a good deal? For the same price you can get the PS3 Slim a much better system with an equally good yet free network, can have any laptop 500gb HDD installed for half the price of the 360 HDD, real 1080p resolution, and Blu-Ray.
Originally posted by varnull:But varnull, imagine how boring the internet would be without sonydefenseforce.com.
what's better about the ps3 apart from it's paid bloggers who we like to laugh at??
This is just the initial quick counter-move to the slim PS3.
Afterall what is an Elite?
A black painted Arcade with a HDD.
I fully expect that now Sony have shot their bolt (and by all accounts still lose money on the PS3 slim - they cost about $252 with transport, packaging and all the rest on top) that this interim move will be followed by another a little closer to Xmas which will cut the differential further.
I also expect Nintendo to also move for the same reasons.
Why would the PS3 attract parents buying their kids a game console?
They certainly won't care about Blu-ray.
Most of the a/v guys I know wouldn't have a game console as their movie player anyways.
The big news for me will be to see a new and genuinely big HDD.
I find 120gb is just too small.
I'd hope that we see the 120gb HDD fall in price to a more normal level and a 500gb or larger HDD take over as the really big one.
I too would love a bigger Hard Drive, but since buying the elite and filling up most of my HDD my xbox can take up to 5 mins to find what's on it. I have to wait several minutes to even select a video I've downloaded, but I also think it could just be the NXE that has made the system performance crap. Or a combo of both.
Wow sideffx, that sounds bad.
I'm glad mine (NXE & latest update) doesn't do that; that really isn't my experience at all.
Have you tried defragging/clearing the cache?
h**p://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=449141
I was once also recommended that it's a good idea to leave the last 10% of (any) HDD's capacity unused.
Good luck.
Yeah, I clear the cache all the time, it makes the system work fine until I turn it off. Then next time I play it is just as slow again, and now I have to re-download every patch and update when I play. It sucks, I NEVER had this problem with a smaller hard drive and the old dash. I've read a lot of posts on xbox.com and other sites with people having the exact same problem. I love my xbox 360 but sometimes I won't even bother playing 'cause of this. Also when I save a game to the HDD, I'm only given the option to "play from Hard Drive" about %30 of the time. MS won't offer any help and deny ever hearing of these problems. Sorry if this post is off topic, but this is about my Elite System and just want to warn anyone who is thinking of upgrading like I did.
Quote:Your stupidity starts flame wars.Originally posted by SDF_GR:Omfg, if you don't know anything about the topic at hand than don't post! Elite has a 120gb hard drive, if you knew anything about the xbox you would know that. Seriously, ps3 owners stick to their news and xbox 360 owners will stick to theirs (I can go to both since I have all systems). Comments like SDF's starts flame wars.
It may sounds silly but i honesty dont know
The elite version has at least rechargeable controllers via usb?
If it hasnt well imo thats a joke.
This is really a good news... Wow .
Originally posted by jookycola:Rubbish post that proves very little points aside from i agree with the lowering of peripheral prices. Much better??? Too each his own. That is in the eye of the beholder. The resolution issue hasnot changed anything in the games graphics so far so what validity does that point bring about. NONE. Its simply about what exclusive do you enjoy most. Ones for PS3 or Xbox360. Or just be like me and eventually buy them both consoles to enjoy all games.
Why would anyone thing this is a good deal? For the same price you can get the PS3 Slim a much better system with an equally good yet free network, can have any laptop 500gb HDD installed for half the price of the 360 HDD, real 1080p resolution, and Blu-Ray.
$299 for a DVD9 game console that maxes at 720p resolution is a joke now that Sony has stepped up to the plate. The market is saturated with 360 owners, they should now keep us happy and not give us a reason to get a PS3. At this point if M$ wants to win the sales game they need to help us 360 owners that already have the console happy. lower XBL to $30, cut the costs on peripherals (i.e. the HDD, the Wi-Fi antenna, etc.) That would go a long way. Because in the grand scheme of things with both systems at the same price, most people with half a brain would get the much better PS3.
If they want to stay on top they need to change their game and support their only real advantage over Sony. Their strength in numbers. And keep the millions they have now happy.
Quote:i can get a hdmi cable for 9.98 at walmart.comOriginally posted by sideffx:Well I can get a HDMI cable for only $12 each locally and I'm sure everyone else can too somewhere but most people are stupid and think the more expensive the cable the better, even though they're both the same. That's where Best Buy comes in :/
I can't tell from the picture, and it's not listed-- I don't see that this version comes with and HDMI cable. So if not you can add another $50 to that price. Does anyone know if it comes with it or not?
I'm so glad we had this discussion. After my first comment in this thread, I read a few articles and all suggested NEVER paying more than $10 for an HDMI cable. That the high priced (monster) with promises of better quality everything is a joke. Now I know. I love this website!!!!
Originally posted by varnull:and I'm starting to wonder how much you're paid to slander Sony in every single post of yours ...
what's better about the ps3 apart from it's paid bloggers who we like to laugh at??
Quote:Just so you guys know, the cable that comes with the non elite 360 covers the HDMI port up halfway so you cant use it. The $50 HDMI cable that microsoft sells comes with a slimmer plug for the audio so the HDMI cable can be plugged in under it. Total B.S. I'm not sure if there a hack to make the old plug work.Quote:i can get a hdmi cable for 9.98 at walmart.comOriginally posted by sideffx:Well I can get a HDMI cable for only $12 each locally and I'm sure everyone else can too somewhere but most people are stupid and think the more expensive the cable the better, even though they're both the same. That's where Best Buy comes in :/
I can't tell from the picture, and it's not listed-- I don't see that this version comes with and HDMI cable. So if not you can add another $50 to that price. Does anyone know if it comes with it or not?
Originally posted by Turpis:There's a hack on the internet where someone's opened up the ridiculously large connector on that chubby cable and this allows the plugging in of the other cables ~
Just so you guys know, the cable that comes with the non elite 360 covers the HDMI port up halfway so you cant use it. The $50 HDMI cable that microsoft sells comes with a slimmer plug for the audio so the HDMI cable can be plugged in under it. Total B.S. I'm not sure if there a hack to make the old plug work.
I am deeply sorry for my actions, I was out of place and I hope you accept my sincere apology.
Originally posted by sideffx:I can get excellent quality 'regular' 1 meter/3 foot 1.3 HDMI cables for as little as £2.60/$4.26 (with gold plated connections and from a highly reputable supplier; (Kenable.co.uk).
I don't see that this version comes with and HDMI cable. So if not you can add another $50 to that price. Does anyone know if it comes with it or not?
Originally posted by Turpis:If you're using HDMI fully why would you need another connection?
Just so you guys know, the cable that comes with the non elite 360 covers the HDMI port up halfway so you cant use it.
why would anyone want to pay €299 for a faulty xbox-360 these things still suffer with the RROD. i would be very weary of purchasing any xbox-360 because of this hardware fault which has not been fixed yet. playstation 3 is the way to go.
Originally posted by zenno:Ok, then prove it.
why would anyone want to pay €299 for a faulty xbox-360 these things still suffer with the RROD.
i would be very weary of purchasing any xbox-360 because of this hardware fault which has not been fixed yet.
Originally posted by zenno:Yeah sure it is - if you want less games to play and less games with a high meritocratic score.
playstation 3 is the way to go.
The really interesting bit to this that flyer nobody seems to be picking up on yet is, for me, the 'quantities limited' part.
So we know for sure now that they are chopping the Elite price to that of the old Pro - but how long is the Elite (in it's current form) going to be around?
Is a new SKU with a much bigger HDD on the way?
quote by interstx: Ok, then prove it.
You're the one making the claim that the latest Xbox has not been fixed so go ahead and prove that.
well all i can say to you is look for xbox-360 elite edition forums about this fault in a week or two and your proof will be there. don't get me wrong the xbox-360 is a great gaming machine when it works i had one before. but as i have been told this fault is still very much in the elite set.
Originally posted by zenno:dejavu
Quote:
interstx Ok, then prove it.
You're the one making the claim that the latest Xbox has not been fixed so go ahead and prove that.
well all i can say to you is look for xbox-360 elite edition forums about this fault in a week or two and your proof will be there. don't get me wrong the xbox-360 is a great gaming machine when it works i had one before. but as i have been told this fault is still very much in the elite set.
Originally posted by zenno:
well all i can say to you is look for xbox-360 elite edition forums about this fault in a week or two and your proof will be there.
Originally posted by DXR88:Yeah of course it's de ja vu.
dejavu
Quote:with al due respect to zenno, when people say xbox360 they generally think failure rates of the xbox community as a whole and as a whole failure rates are still to high yes the falcon and jasper have done remarkably well at heat reduction. they are still prone to failure just not as great.Originally posted by zenno:
well all i can say to you is look for xbox-360 elite edition forums about this fault in a week or two and your proof will be there.Originally posted by DXR88:Yeah of course it's de ja vu.
dejavu
This is another person who thinks anecdote is proof.
Sorry but it just isn't.
All i'm saying is if you're going to claim that Falcon and Jasper are no better than Xbox originally was then prove it.
If you think it is better but still deeply flawed then I#d like to see some evidence instead of mere opinion.
I am deeply sorry for my actions, I was out of place and I hope you accept my sincere apology.
Originally posted by chris4160:Of course they are
You do realise the elite has the exact same hardware as the other xbox's, right?
The HDD's are what really need the price drop imo. And the elite really shouldn't have been THAT much more than the standard models in the first place considering the only hardware differences is the HDD size and the color if you would consider that under hardware.
Originally posted by chris4160:Considering what you posted in one of the recent ps3 news articles I gotta call BS. Even a staff member remarked on how over the top it was. I'd have to agree with kikzm33z and say I'd expect more from a senior member.
Omfg, if you don't know anything about the topic at hand than don't post! Elite has a 120gb hard drive, if you knew anything about the xbox you would know that. Seriously, ps3 owners stick to their news and xbox 360 owners will stick to theirs (I can go to both since I have all systems). Comments like SDF's starts flame wars.
I am deeply sorry for my actions, I was out of place and I hope you accept my sincere apology.
It still seems a bit pricey, im not trying to get into a battle over ps3 versus xbox. The majority of my friends have xbox, and they have all had the red ring of death atleast once, but covered under warrantly and replaced as they should be. But 300 dollars for a machine simply for graphics is a bit pricey, i recently really want one to play my friends in games like halo that dont come on ps3. And so i can watch netflix through my tv.
I dont care if you love xbox or ps3 or hate either one. Facts are facts, they both have good and bad things about them. But it is easier to justify spending more money on a ps3.
A ps3 is more realiable, as a recent survery done by a popular game magazine had 49 percent of its readers responding that they had the red ring of death. A ps3 has blueray, which beat out HDDVD, so if you want a hard copy, thats all you can do right now. Also it has built in Wifi, and bluetooth, xbox doesnt. And it is way easier and cheaper to upgrade the hd of a ps3 than an xbox, i have a 400gb in mine which i spent 90 dollars on through newegg and backed up all my old game data and installed it on the new one in less than half an hour. A 120gb hd from xbox is 100 atleast.
Now xbox has a better game selection and more star hits, and the netflix option, which is great. I wish it didnt cost money for a membership like ps3, but its network is slightly better than ps3.
So it comes down to this, is the processor of the xbox really worth $300 because thats really the only new tech in it. And i say the same thing about Wii. Its similar to why much of our american car companys are in the shitter, they were charging way to much for cars that werent as realiable or cost effective as their opponents, and they paid there employees way more than they should have. The true resource construction cost of the average automobile is under 1,000 USD. So u can see how companies embellish prices far higher than they need to be.
Xbox makes a killing of there systems because there cheap and really only has great graphics for new tech. But ofcourse a still want one, its a good system with good games and online capabilities, but it shouldnt cost more than $250.
