Apple says iPhone 5 pre-orders reached 2 million in 24 hours

Well, until now, two serious issues with this new iCrap are well known, in addition to all the common limitations of the previous ones:

- Every ANALOG peripheral using their previous proprietary plug won't work, even with their $30 adaptor.
- It's impossible to maintain a phone conversation while connected to LTE networks, and vice versa.

Yet, so far we have, as usual, 2 million people who are (or at least should be) aware of the flaws of this device, but they have pre-ordered it anyway, and still would if Apple had announced a white brick with round corners. So, why still selling phones? Wake up! Sell $600-800 bricks instead! You've proven that you can, and that would be a much more profittable business. (Or, even better, at least, patent them before anyone else does).

Originally posted by dali:

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Well, until now, two serious issues with this new iCrap are well known, in addition to all the common limitations of the previous ones:

- Every ANALOG peripheral using their previous proprietary plug won't work, even with their $30 adaptor.
- It's impossible to maintain a phone conversation while connected to LTE networks, and vice versa.

Yet, so far we have, as usual, 2 million people who are (or at least should be) aware of the flaws of this device, but they have pre-ordered it anyway, and still would if Apple had announced a white brick with round corners. So, why still selling phones? Wake up! Sell $600-800 bricks instead! You've proven that you can, and that would be a much more profittable business. (Or, even better, at least, patent them before anyone else does).

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No simultaneous voice/data while connected to LTE is for the CDMA carriers Sprint/Verizon from what I understand. GSM carriers will be fine.

On topic, 2 million in one day is ridiculous. I figured it would outsell the 4S but not double.

And people thought apple would be doomed and the galaxy S3 and all of its plastic could topple over the mighty iPhone. Ahh well maybe next year.

Still has crap camera. Still uses crap Apple OS, still looks EXACTLY the same as the previous gens and above all else........different connector. WTF is that?!?!?!?!? Sounds like a big "F YOU" to all those with IHome docks.

As for Talking and surfing the net at the same time, I agree with follow up comment. That was on the OLD CDMA. New LTE has eliminated that drawback.

I don't know if I believe they have sold 2 million. Frankly, Apple can claim that even if it's untrue and won't have consequences. Not like it's false advertising.

Originally posted by plutonash:

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And people thought apple would be doomed and the galaxy S3 and all of its plastic could topple over the mighty iPhone. Ahh well maybe next year.

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Well it'll be interesting to see if the sales sustain & remain good for them.
What are the SGS 3 numbers?

I doubt a splurge of initial sales is the be-all and end-all of the tale, huh?

Originally posted by Interestx:

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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And people thought apple would be doomed and the galaxy S3 and all of its plastic could topple over the mighty iPhone. Ahh well maybe next year.

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Well it'll be interesting to see if the sales sustain & remain good for them.
What are the SGS 3 numbers?

I doubt a splurge of initial sales is the be-all and end-all of the tale, huh?

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And, let's remember, SGS 3 has better hardware despite being older, SGS 4 is coming next february, there are many other competitors out there, like Sony Xperia Ion (which is currently the android phone I like the most), and, of course, there is also WP8. So, yes, we'll see what happens, but Crapple will have it hard to keep up, that's for sure.

Originally posted by dali:

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Originally posted by Interestx:

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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And people thought apple would be doomed and the galaxy S3 and all of its plastic could topple over the mighty iPhone. Ahh well maybe next year.

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Well it'll be interesting to see if the sales sustain & remain good for them.
What are the SGS 3 numbers?

I doubt a splurge of initial sales is the be-all and end-all of the tale, huh?

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And, let's remember, SGS 3 has better hardware despite being older, SGS 4 is coming next february, there are many other competitors out there, like Sony Xperia Ion (which is currently the android phone I like the most), and, of course, there is also WP8. So, yes, we'll see what happens, but Crapple will have it hard to keep up, that's for sure.

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SGS 4 Rumor isn't true. Samsung Korea posted on Twitter that it was false.

Originally posted by Interestx:

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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And people thought apple would be doomed and the galaxy S3 and all of its plastic could topple over the mighty iPhone. Ahh well maybe next year.

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Well it'll be interesting to see if the sales sustain & remain good for them.
What are the SGS 3 numbers?

I doubt a splurge of initial sales is the be-all and end-all of the tale, huh?

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Last update on the GS3 said approximately 10 million sold worldwide to date. Analysts are predicting around 8 million for the iPhone 5 in this opening weekend alone.

Originally posted by dali:

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- It's impossible to maintain a phone conversation while connected to LTE networks, and vice versa.

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I don't get this?

LTE is a network gen, there's no such thing as 4G it's 3g+ or LTE and then LTE-A but LTE-A can't have 3G phones on that network.

I'm guessing your talking about the mode switching like
G, E, 3G, 3G-H, 3G-H+

which no phone can switch between modes, while voice or data is connected they must be disconnected for the phone to switch up or down in modes.

It's a network limitation not a phone limitation.

Originally posted by ZeusAV:

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Originally posted by Interestx:

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Originally posted by plutonash:

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And people thought apple would be doomed and the galaxy S3 and all of its plastic could topple over the mighty iPhone. Ahh well maybe next year.

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Well it'll be interesting to see if the sales sustain & remain good for them.
What are the SGS 3 numbers?

I doubt a splurge of initial sales is the be-all and end-all of the tale, huh?

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Last update on the GS3 said approximately 10 million sold worldwide to date. Analysts are predicting around 8 million for the iPhone 5 in this opening weekend alone.

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That's not right it's sold above 20 million right now and Samsung expect more than 30 million GS3 to be sold worldwide before the end of the year.

Originally posted by xtago:

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It's a network limitation not a phone limitation.

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Forgive my ignorance if so, but I wasn't talking about "4G" but "LTE". And not about "mode switching", but "talking while being connected to the internet on LTE networks". As far as I understood, such thing is possible having another antenna, which other models have, and the iPhone5 does not.

As ZeusAV said, it happens "only" on CDMA carriers (Verizon and Sprint):

http://gizmodo.com/5943152/verizons-iph...t-the-same-time

Originally posted by Tazer247:

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SGS 4 Rumor isn't true. Samsung Korea posted on Twitter that it was false.

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Yes, but I know this TODAY, not yesterday (I don't follow Samsung Korea on twitter, nor I read korean press, and the original news in AD wasn't told to be a rumor, but coming from a Samsung official source):

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.c...ing_in_february

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.c...coming_in_march

Originally posted by xtago:

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Originally posted by dali:

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- It's impossible to maintain a phone conversation while connected to LTE networks, and vice versa.

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I don't get this?

LTE is a network gen, there's no such thing as 4G it's 3g+ or LTE and then LTE-A but LTE-A can't have 3G phones on that network.

I'm guessing your talking about the mode switching like
G, E, 3G, 3G-H, 3G-H+

which no phone can switch between modes, while voice or data is connected they must be disconnected for the phone to switch up or down in modes.

It's a network limitation not a phone limitation.

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Ok.......to correct your thinking. "LTE" is not a "network gen". It's a generic term for "Long Term Evolution" (you no doubt know this) and is a blanket technology for packet switched networks on the cellular system. Just like computers. No more Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA). All carriers will do this.........ALL. And there is such thing as 3G, 4G. It's an international standard for certain speeds, of which NO ONE has reached because 4G is technically 1GBps I believe.

You either have no clue what you're talking about or you're terrible at conveying it. No one said it's a phone limitation. Most people with beating hearts know it's a network limitation. And you absolutely can talk on an and LTE network while surfing the web. Don't henpeck!

Originally posted by hearme0:

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You either have no clue what you're talking about or you're terrible at conveying it.

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Thanks for your corrections. I think it's most probably the second thing.

Originally posted by hearme0:

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No one said it's a phone limitation. Most people with beating hearts know it's a network limitation. And you absolutely can talk on an and LTE network while surfing the web. Don't henpeck!

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You can... On carriers which use GSM for voice. On CDMA carriers you'd need two antennas, but the iPhone5 has only one. Hence, there is an actual phone limitation with certain carriers which could be overriden by adding an extra antenna (which other phones have).

Originally posted by dali:

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Originally posted by Tazer247:

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SGS 4 Rumor isn't true. Samsung Korea posted on Twitter that it was false.

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Yes, but I know this TODAY, not yesterday (I don't follow Samsung Korea on twitter, nor I read korean press, and the original news in AD wasn't told to be a rumor, but coming from a Samsung official source):

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.c...ing_in_february

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.c...coming_in_march

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2 things i have trouble believing.i dont actually think afterdawn contacted anyone in samsung.I also think if a samsung representative said the new phone will be released he wouldnt of remained anonymous.anyone could of made that claim.

(back on topic) the figures released by apple may or may not be true.apple says a lot of things,some which are true and alot which are untrue.

Originally posted by dali:

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Originally posted by hearme0:

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You either have no clue what you're talking about or you're terrible at conveying it.

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Thanks for your corrections. I think it's most probably the second thing.

Originally posted by hearme0:

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No one said it's a phone limitation. Most people with beating hearts know it's a network limitation. And you absolutely can talk on an and LTE network while surfing the web. Don't henpeck!

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You can... On carriers which use GSM for voice. On CDMA carriers you'd need two antennas, but the iPhone5 has only one. Hence, there is an actual phone limitation with certain carriers which could be overriden by adding an extra antenna (which other phones have).

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Correct. Sprint and VZW ICrap 5 has one antenna not 2. No simultaneous voice and data for those users even on LTE. The funny part is most of the ISheep don't have a clue! It blows my mind that there's really that many people out there that is willing to part with their hard earned $ for an overpriced name! The hardware is definitely not anything great...hell, the Nokia 920 specs blow away the I5. It amazes me that CrApple can keep coming out with the same rehashed product year after year and still stay on top.

It's definitely not a network issue for Verizon or Sprint. Verizons very first LTE phone can surf the web and place phone calls at the same time. Anyone saying otherwise should stop posting and start reading.

Print the word iPhone (anything) and the trolls come out like cockroaches in a tenement kitchen when the lights go out.

2 million orders in the 1st weekend? After the customers finally start learning (if they can learn) what the limitations are those numbers will probably start falling off the grand total by the boat loads.

Originally posted by robertmro:

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Print the word iPhone (anything) and the trolls come out like cockroaches in a tenement kitchen when the lights go out.

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Your observation is possibly a passing glance into the mirror perhaps?