Support for Windows 7 without service pack ends tomorrow

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Windows 7 with SP1 loses support in February 2015, but you can pay for extended support (including security fixes) until 2020.

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I wouldn't be surprised if you could find them somewhere without paying.

Of course we'll be able to Jem, but I think with the soft acceptance of W8 from consumers and the absolute ZERO acceptance of it from any enterprise customers, MS will be forced to either design a new OS or release a W8 with a standard UI package for the PC work world, or extend support for W7 SP(X) until they figure out which one.
Of course by 2020 I think they'll have figured it out ;)

When I first saw this months ago I thought it was no big deal...but with sp1, the minimum internet explorer is ie9..and ie9 doesn't work with a whole slew of jm sites that were designed for ie6-8...this is actually a big deal for the corporate world, where the web applications that replaced computers with reels of tape are not going anywhere any time soon.

Originally posted by ChappyTTV:

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Of course we'll be able to Jem, but I think with the soft acceptance of W8 from consumers and the absolute ZERO acceptance of it from any enterprise customers, MS will be forced to either design a new OS or release a W8 with a standard UI package for the PC work world, or extend support for W7 SP(X) until they figure out which one.
Of course by 2020 I think they'll have figured it out ;)

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I think you may be right Chappy.

I've considered giving Win8 a go on a new pooter with one of those free apps that replaces the Start button.

Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by ChappyTTV:

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Of course we'll be able to Jem, but I think with the soft acceptance of W8 from consumers and the absolute ZERO acceptance of it from any enterprise customers, MS will be forced to either design a new OS or release a W8 with a standard UI package for the PC work world, or extend support for W7 SP(X) until they figure out which one.
Of course by 2020 I think they'll have figured it out ;)

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I think you may be right Chappy.

I've considered giving Win8 a go on a new pooter with one of those free apps that replaces the Start button.

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So have I Jem. I ran the pre-release of W8 on a separate HDD for about a week and went straight back to W7. While 8 was snappy quick on my 1 y/o home build, I had no use for Metro what-so-ever!

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While 8 was snappy quick on my 1 y/o home build, I had no use for Metro what-so-ever!

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Couldn't you just ignore that bit, just stick to the desktop part?

("Metro" makes me think of guys with pastel sweaters tied around their necks heh.)

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Windows 7 with SP1 loses support in February 2015, but you can pay for extended support (including security fixes) until 2020.

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The basic security fixes are free throughout the extended support phase. That's why XP still commands over 1/3 of the market share.

Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by ChappyTTV:

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While 8 was snappy quick on my 1 y/o home build, I had no use for Metro what-so-ever!

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Couldn't you just ignore that bit, just stick to the desktop part?

("Metro" makes me think of guys with pastel sweaters tied around their necks heh.)

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You have to use 3rd party apps to "just stick to the desktop part". Really rather pathetic that Microsoft; the giant corporation that has lead the way in operating system sales since before the GUI; can't do as good of a job making an interface as small 3rd party companies that (often) are just copying the old interfaces from Microsoft. Billy needs to spend less time worrying about designing the next-gen condom, and more time worrying about how Balmer is running off their core customers in a hopeless attempt to get customer segments that won't come over anyway. If Windows 8 isn't enough proof of this, IE9-10 cinches it. Here is a browser that can't do anything nearly as well as Chrome, a browser that has terrible security that blocks what you want and ignores malware...while having a poor interface and displaying many websites wrong. So, fail on the front of beating Chrome...and what did they have to sacrifice to get this failure? They sacrificed the business user who used IE6-8 because it was the only thing that worked with their corporate intranet apps, and IE6-8 are still the only browsers that work, IE9-10 can't even do that. If Microsoft continues down this path, we are going to see these IT departments switching off of Microsoft all together.

Nothing like ending support for a WIDELY USED (and much loved) operating system and forcing people to either pay for F'ing security updates OR illicitly jack 'em and then THEY might have a virus/malware/etc. in it and then one needs a REAL security update to unfu*k what was just fuc*ed.

Microsoft's way of getting people onto an OS WITHOUT a "desktop"....

Partially lame but partially smart since they don't want people hanging on to OS's for as long as many schmucks did/do with XP.

At least those 3rd party apps are free KB.

Originally posted by Jemborg:

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At least those 3rd party apps are free KB.

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The good ones are not.

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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At least those 3rd party apps are free KB.

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The good ones are not.

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I'll bear it in mind but honestly KB Classic Shell (donerware) has a great reputation as far as I can tell and just keeps improving.

I'll stick to Win7 for now anyway but for other reasons ;-) Although I was keen to see if it played games better as many say.

Big Deal

Did anyone think this.

Firefox

Safari

chrome

all do not require service pack 1 so you dont have to download it if you dont want to and i wouldn't because it's laced with windows kb971033 update which sends your personal information to microsoft no thank you

Originally posted by megadunderhead:

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service pack 1 ... it's laced with windows kb971033 update which sends your personal information to microsoft no thank you

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@ MDH... KB971033 is a validity verification update that does not even load nowadays unless you actively select it. It's easy to "hide" it so it never gets loaded too.

How do I know this? I install legitimate Win7 OSs with SP1 already streamlined into it all the time.


If you really care about your personal info don't use Chrome browser as it installs DoubleClick spyware onto your pooter. Even if you excoriate it it still reloads each time you run Chrome. Guess who bought DoubleClick for 3.1 billion?

There may be a way to prevent it, DoubleClick, from installing... I haven't looked into it.



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if you like a chromium based browser without big brother watching try comodo dragon.

Originally posted by megadunderhead:

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because it's laced with windows kb971033 update which sends your personal information to microsoft

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Funnily enough I can remember people making similar comments about XP, what with its capability for scanning your PC etc.
The US DoD was involved in its writing & creation.

What I do find amusing is the rather silly idea that only Microsoft are doing this stuff.

As Jemborg rightly says the others are at it too, whether it's for general snooping purposes or commercial gain I don't really see much difference.
My privacy is continually eroded.

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Originally posted by KillerBug:

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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At least those 3rd party apps are free KB.

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The good ones are not.

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I'll bear it in mind but honestly KB Classic Shell (donerware) has a great reputation as far as I can tell and just keeps improving.

I'll stick to Win7 for now anyway but for other reasons ;-) Although I was keen to see if it played games better as many say.

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I apologize for butting in but wanted to add that I have been using Classic Shell for some time now and have been quite happy with it and Windows 8. Following your threads, I think that it will do what you want.

Originally posted by Interestx:

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My privacy is continually eroded.

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Indeed, they are getting VERY scarily sophisticated now... I just watched a program on it. Than Zeus for Adblock Plus (or Adblock Edge)

Check these out too...
http://www.squirrelconspiracy.net/abp/facebook-privacy-list.html
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/fbdc/
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta...giibghpglaidiec
and this beauty DoNotTrackMe: www.abine.com/dntdetail.php


The Facebook ones are just if you visit a page with a Facebook button on it... that right, you don't even have to be a member of Faceache they will get you even through your real life friends! WTF!



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Originally posted by Virgil_B:

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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Originally posted by KillerBug:

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Originally posted by Jemborg:

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At least those 3rd party apps are free KB.

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The good ones are not.

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I'll bear it in mind but honestly KB Classic Shell (donerware) has a great reputation as far as I can tell and just keeps improving.

I'll stick to Win7 for now anyway but for other reasons ;-) Although I was keen to see if it played games better as many say.

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I apologize for butting in but wanted to add that I have been using Classic Shell for some time now and have been quite happy with it and Windows 8. Following your threads, I think that it will do what you want.

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By all means, butt in. I've been wanting to hear about it. All I hear is whinging. The latest version of Classic Shell looks even better.

There will be a service pack update for Win8 at some time it should be interesting to see if they do anything radical like with XP SP2.