Here is one chart reflecting how there are really only two companies in the mobile phone market

Sad thing is I do not like both of them. Apple because of is closed ecosystem and Samsung because the phones are made about as well as a cheap toy. I own a Samsung Galaxy Nexus I like it but is feels cheap. Wish HTC would make another nexus phone.

Originally posted by lamain:

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Wish HTC would make another nexus phone.

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Seems LG are.

Originally posted by lamain:

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Sad thing is I do not like both of them. Apple because of is closed ecosystem...

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The only reason I have an iPhone 4 is because it can be jailbroken. I couldn't recommend one unless the user is willing to jailbreak it. I went from an LG Optimus S running Android 2.3.3 to an iPhone 4 on iOS 6.1 and it felt like I had downgraded. I had to jailbreak the iPhone 4 in order to receive my upgrade. An iPhone out-of-box is nowhere near as handy as an out-of-box Android phone, the recent models to come out in the past year or so anyway.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a considerable amount of users who only have an iPhone because they can jailbreak it and add all of the useful tweaks via Cydia. That's why I have mine.

Well I have a Samsung Galaxy SII, the back is plastic. In Oct. 2013 I will have had it for 2 years. I don't plug it in to charge my batteries. I use a separate charger, so almost everyday or every other day I am removing the back and putting it back on, to exchange the battery; for a charged one. I think my Galaxy SII has done quite well just being plastic. No breaks no cracks. It pops off & on effortlessly. So although flimsy it's durable.

Originally posted by Darney53:

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Well I have a Samsung Galaxy SII, the back is plastic. In Oct. 2013 I will have had it for 2 years. I don't plug it in to charge my batteries. I use a separate charger, so almost everyday or every other day I am removing the back and putting it back on, to exchange the battery; for a charged one. I think my Galaxy SII has done quite well just being plastic. No breaks no cracks. It pops off & on effortlessly. So although flimsy it's durable.

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Last month I bought their recent offering, Samsung Galaxy Grand DUOS. I wouldn't try to change the batteries as frequently as you do as getting the back off is a very dicey & major undertaking. I am always afraid of breaking one of the many latches holding it in place.

The question is, do the other throw in the towel or do they compete?
Looking at the latest LG, HTC, Motorola, Sony & even Nokia offerings I think they're going to slug it out, at least a while longer.
This is good for tyhe rest of us.

Particularly as Apple look like they are content to merely appeal to their already converted and few others given the pricing & spec they offer.

Mine comes of very easy with a small slot to release it. I feel comfortable with using batteries charged in a separate charger. I also keep it in a leather case, designed specifically for it; all the time.

Regarding Interstx comment, I think the iPhone is somewhat nifty, just don't like syncing. Prefer to drag and drop or have more options to put media on my Samsung. The iPhone is so restricting.

Originally posted by Darney53:

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The iPhone is so restricting.

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Which is why I think it appeals to Apple users.
I have a couple of friends & family members who like the Apple approach.
I don't, I find it annoying & as you say restrictive - and I just prefer, by far, the whole ethos of an open platform like Android over Apple's closed environment.
In the short term that has given Apple some nice slick touches for their owners but over the longer term I think it is Android that has the best appeal.

Especially at the prices asked & considering the specs offered.

Originally posted by Interestx:

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Originally posted by Darney53:

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The iPhone is so restricting.

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Which is why I think it appeals to Apple users.
I have a couple of friends & family members who like the Apple approach.

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I have a feeling most iPhone users are unaware of how restrictive the iOS platform is. Let's safely assume a considerable amount of it's user base simply believes they own a superior product, "because it's the iPhone and Apple made it". If they only knew.

The one thing I really despise about Apple's approach is how they can take something so simple, such as adding music, and make it proprietary to the point that even a mere attempt at doing it yourself can somehow render your music library "unreadable" (on device). All that really means, is they are extremely anal about any other program being used, except for their own (iTunes).

Originally posted by Interestx:

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I don't, I find it annoying & as you say restrictive - and I just prefer, by far, the whole ethos of an open platform like Android over Apple's closed environment.

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I can never recommend an iPhone unless the user is willing to jailbreak it. Of course, Apple's iPhone will never become an open platform out-of-box, they are more than aware of how the allure of jailbreaking their iDevices are to newcomers and loyal users and how it will sway their decisions into staying with the iPhone.