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| Pop_Smith (Senior Member) 8 June 2007 21:55 |
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Finally some big companies are starting to see the light, DRM is nothing but a waste of time, money, and energy.
They first used it to prevent "piracy" but it didn't work. They implimented it on CDs but that was worked around and lawsuits were filed due to the potential security risks on many computers.
Finally, when it comes to "pirated" music, I would say 100% of them are from CDs. They are obtained a few days in advance of their retail release and uploaded to various places for various reasons.
I think music companies are starting to realise that you can't stop piracy, which was the reason for DRM, you can only slow it.
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| Blackjax (Member) 8 June 2007 22:49 |
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Do you think maybe the Labels are beginning to see the light? Maybe the labels are starting to find out it's cheaper for them run a few servers. Maybe they figured out it lowers their operating costs and ups their bottom line. Maybe they are starting to figure out that's what the consumer wants. Who are they kidding they see their market share slipping because someone opened the gate to DRM less music!
It's a simple formula CEO's. Give the consumer what they want at a fair price. When you do that you stay in business longer!
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 9 June 2007 0:53 |
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Dont forget the new protection scheme is putting account and tracking info into the MP3 you "buy"...
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9 June 2007 0:54
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| borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 9 June 2007 1:31 |
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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM: Dont forget the new protection scheme is putting account and tracking info into the MP3 you "buy"...
This is the only glitch in the whole deal. I love the fact that their DRM free but they do not need my details via the file cause i think once i sign up and purchase the music files they should just have my details for billing purpose nothing else really/
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 9 June 2007 1:35 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by ZIppyDSM: Dont forget the new protection scheme is putting account and tracking info into the MP3 you "buy"...
This is the only glitch in the whole deal. I love the fact that their DRM free but they do not need my details via the file cause i think once i sign up and purchase the music files they should just have my details for billing purpose nothing else really/
*L* wait till the 3rd party MP3 wipers start coming out to remove that nasty tracking info :X
frankly they should stick with that and any fool dumb enough to get hacked or whatever by it is his own fault for not removing that info first :P
I guess the fastest way is to recompress it LOL
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| def&blind (Newbie) 9 June 2007 4:55 |
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Quote: *L* wait till the 3rd party MP3 wipers start coming out to remove that nasty tracking info :X
Its already out. its called Jhymn...
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 9 June 2007 5:20 |
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Quote: [quote]*L* wait till the 3rd party MP3 wipers start coming out to remove that nasty tracking info :X
Its already out. its called Jhymn...[/quote]OOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo :X
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| hughjars (Inactive) 9 June 2007 6:49 |
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If they target actual commercial 'pirates' then I could care less.
If they target file sharing then they already lost long ago.
I don't really mind a form of 'managed copy' (which allows me to use the stuff I bought how I want.....including taking it round to a family & friends and playing it on ther kit - or even, good God no-one fall down dead in shock now, doing them a copy of it......no point pretending we won't cos we always have done now & again).
But I don't want DRM systems making my kit fail or having compatability problems and generally any of the cr@p we've seen to date with the various DRM attempts.
I certainly will be avoiding any 'system' that expects me to periodically pay for 'security' updates......like Plextor have said their Blu-ray users will have to after a freebie period.
Quote: BD-MV playback at HD quality has very strict copy protection integrated and managed by the Advanced
Access Content System License Administrator (AACS LA), and software manufacturers are required to
include the AACS key management in the play back software.
These AACS play back keys are only valid for a predefined and limited period of time. Customers
generally have to buy new AACS keys every 15 months.
With the Plextor PX-B900A/T3KB the customer can playback BD movies produced until April 2009.
To play back movies produced after April 2009, the customer has to purchase a renewal of the key.
link to pdf press release from plextor: http://www.plextor.be/press/datasheets/Plextor_AACS.pdf
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 9 June 2007 7:00 |
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Quote: If they target actual commercial 'pirates' then I could care less.
If they target file sharing then they already lost long ago.
I don't really mind a form of 'managed copy' (which allows me to use the stuff I bought how I want.....including taking it round to a family & friends and playing it on ther kit - or even, good God no-one fall down dead in shock now, doing them a copy of it......no point pretending we won't cos we always have done now & again).
But I don't want DRM systems making my kit fail or having compatability problems and generally any of the cr@p we've seen to date with the various DRM attempts.
I certainly will be avoiding any 'system' that expects me to periodically pay for 'security' updates......like Plextor have said their Blu-ray users will have to after a freebie period.
[quote]BD-MV playback at HD quality has very strict copy protection integrated and managed by the Advanced
Access Content System License Administrator (AACS LA), and software manufacturers are required to
include the AACS key management in the play back software.
These AACS play back keys are only valid for a predefined and limited period of time. Customers
generally have to buy new AACS keys every 15 months.
With the Plextor PX-B900A/T3KB the customer can playback BD movies produced until April 2009.
To play back movies produced after April 2009, the customer has to purchase a renewal of the key.
link to pdf press release from plextor: http://www.plextor.be/press/datasheets/Plextor_AACS.pdf[/quote]
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any setup like that will be fixed by downlaodable firmware.
they ahve to be kidding them selfs with some of the setups they are putting out.
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| hughjars (Inactive) 9 June 2007 7:14 |
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I'm sure anything they do will be countered zippy.
But as I said I don't expect them not to go after the commercial pirates, people faking other people's work & selling for huge gain is never really going to be ok......and as I said before I sure as hell don't want to be driving my car with faked brakes etc!
But sharing is always going to be different & they're really just blowing smoke out their a$$es if they honestly think they'll ever put an end to that.
What makes it all even more absurd is that private sharers always end up finding a way around the most expensive & sophisticated 'systems'......so how much easier is it for the kind of counterfeit operations making serious money out of this stuff?
It seems to me that it's just the regular story of the little guys always getting clobbered as the industry poses and postures in that pointless way they do.
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| duckNrun (Member) 9 June 2007 20:37 |
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Does jHymm ALREADY remove the personal data that the new files will carry? I do not mean the data that it already removed that ties it to your iTunes account but the NEW data such as name and email address?
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| def&blind (Newbie) 10 June 2007 12:57 |
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You can just use JHymn to strip out the ID info.
Be sure to remove the following atoms:
(apID)
(cprt)
(iods)
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| Unfocused (Junior Member) 30 July 2007 21:23 |
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Why don't they actually ask the customer what they would be willing to pay for? Consumer feedback beats market research any day of the week.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 31 July 2007 10:57 |
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Originally posted by Unfocused: Why don't they actually ask the customer what they would be willing to pay for? Consumer feedback beats market research any day of the week.
the consumers are shepple they have no one to translate the baa baa baa baaaa :P
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