i love pioneer brand from car audio to dvd-writer. all the pioneer product lasted the most electronic in my opinion.

I will try to get the blu-ray writer

Originally posted by kaledrr:

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i love pioneer brand from car audio to dvd-writer. all the pioneer product lasted the most electronic in my opinion.

I will try to get the blu-ray writer

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I personally like Sony, but that does sound pretty good... That'll be about $700 CAD so that's $100 cheaper then Sony's, or at least the last time I checked.

To early would sombody lose already. there going to have a new disc out before the war ever ends.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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To early would sombody lose already. there going to have a new disc out before the war ever ends.

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Yeah, I am waiting for the real next gen format to wipe the floor with both HD DVD and Blu-Ray.

@ $650/$675 this is just another stepping stone on the way to a credible product-line.....but they're hardly there yet.

They'll not exactly be flying off of the shelves.

BD-R? I don't understand. Why would people want to burn a backup of a Blue-Ray movie when it is cheaper to purchase the movie again. I believe BD-R are like 20$+ a piece. I can see this could be good for backing up master HD film for studios, but with DVD-R spindles so cheap, who can go wrong.

Originally posted by c1c:

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BD-R? I don't understand. Why would people want to burn a backup of a Blue-Ray movie when it is cheaper to purchase the movie again. I believe BD-R are like 20$+ a piece. I can see this could be good for backing up master HD film for studios, but with DVD-R spindles so cheap, who can go wrong.

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thos with money and tech fetishes play with the new disc formats even if HDDs and 10X of current media is cheaper and holds more data 0-o

Wow those prices are so steep...I could imagine it'll take a few years to drop to a reasonable price.

hey zippy those tech heads make the prices drop.
thankyou to all you nerds out there that contributed to the prices we see now on new AM2 proccessors and motherboards.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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hey zippy those tech heads make the prices drop.
thankyou to all you nerds out there that contributed to the prices we see now on new AM2 proccessors and motherboards.

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they also beta test them with their wet gooey love :X

LOL

but soemone has to get it I guess altho I never will so meh :P

Rather wait till a writer with the write speeds of 8x come out otherwise don't waste my time waiting for these huge disks to burn.

casemod the burn times are not the same as dvd, when the new lazer came out im sure the block size to burn also increased.

Originally posted by DXR88:

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casemod the burn times are not the same as dvd, when the new lazer came out im sure the block size to burn also increased.

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its roughly 21 minutes for 25GB at 155Mbps,double that for a 50GB then add 20-40% more time since burners like to run a bit slower than max and I am off by 11 Mbps.

still its enough to give a clue on burn time 40min+ for a 50(that can not be good for the burner) and 20-30min for 25.

its not that bad when you think about it you'd have to burn 5-6 DVDs to to put 25GB away so thats at least 15-25 minutes for a 8-16X burner.

Funny, iv got a fan atached to the back of my dvd burner,if im not mistaking isn't it the lazer on lazer off sequenc thats not good.

My rpc code for my dvd burner is 1 ;)

Originally posted by DXR88:

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Funny, iv got a fan atached to the back of my dvd burner,if im not mistaking isn't it the lazer on lazer off sequenc thats not good.

My rpc code for my dvd burner is 1 ;)

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the longer the burn time the more heat and decay on the lens is what I am suggesting.

or is that not the case?

no thats quite possible

Originally posted by DXR88:

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no thats quite possible

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I am unsure if it was ever a problem with early writers just my mechanical common sense kicked in heat+long running=bad

not to mention entropy on the lens unit itself.

my dvd writers old . its got a fan in the rear of the unit it only comes on when im burning imagen that. ;x

Originally posted by DXR88:

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my dvd writers old . its got a fan in the rear of the unit it only comes on when im burning imagen that. ;x

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damn I thought they would start putting them in new drives :P

i know its a copyright thing for elite backup enthusist back to much you burn out you drive. :>

Well i love the brand but i would wait for the burner to be a bit faster that 4x and 2x speed.