In other news, Toshiba has announced they will unveil an equally thin HD DVD writable drive in the near future.

A day late & a dollar short BDA has done a great job to make sure there are alot of capable BD devices on the market.How can anyone support HD-DVD with the lack of PC support they hasn't been offering.

Instead of figting over something that guys fight over how big their is they are fighting over how small something can be :P and who said nerds dont have fun :P

Q. can you play drm-ray BD-R media in stand alone drm-ray players?

What exactly is the point of drm-ray when the likes of Sony BDP-S1 won't even play recorded media or even cd's for that matter, just as many other drm-ray players will refuse to play this media because drm-ray refuses to play media without AACS copy protection and the only REAL way to put AASC on a BD disc is to send it off for mastering, which is not cheap!

Good of sony blocking you from using BD-R media with their track record of anti consumer lockouts unless you own the trojan horse ps3 BD-R media is useless!

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Interesting tech development - interesting to note how HD DVD & Blu-ray continue to match each other - but overall
(like all the high def drives out now)
it's meaningless to the mass-market.

They are too expensive and hardly any have been sold
(which, naturally enough, applies equally to the various media too).

That will begin to change (slowly) in 2008
(especially as Toshiba sell most of their Laptop/notepads output with a high def drive built-in).

But nevertheless the truth is that we're years away from either type of drive meaning much beyond the early adopting crowd;
no matter how much the 'always talk it up' crowd want to cheer on their favourite format. :P

drm is retarded,but hackers and crackers will crack it.im not so worried about that.but i still won't buy a bluray drive even though i support bluray because WTF IS THE POINT :P

Originally posted by red2tango:

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drm is retarded,but hackers and crackers will crack it.im not so worried about that.but i still won't buy a bluray drive even though i support bluray because WTF IS THE POINT :P

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unless you bd-r media contains AACS DRM most DRM-Ray players will not play it, weather its the latest download or the Hi-Def home move you just made that is rendered completely useless because of sony's lock down.

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