Originally posted by res2cue:

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the consumers did not make this decision, Corporate America made it for you.

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Yes of course. In fact, "Corporate America" sent me a letter just yesterday about why I should buy a Blu-Ray player over HD-DVD.

WTF??

I'm pretty sure whatever I do is my decision, as it is my head and my money after all...

Originally posted by UkWizard:

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In ur face blu-ray. Comebacks are always a good thing. I'm sure hughjars will be chuffed

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Comebacks? Barely any of the studios are on there side, oh yeah and they're pretty much screwed for selling them besides off the Internet now. Jesus know how to accept defeat already cripes.

Where's hughjars?

Originally posted by limelight:

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Give it up already. The retailers made their decision. The consumers made their decision.

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I don't know why people always say this. Yes retailers made up their minds to stock only one format, or shall I say "push" one format but, consumers never had a say in this, which is sad. The big studios made their decision and in turn, this made up the consumers "decision" on which format to back.

Toshiba denies they are dropping HD DVD, of course they are going to say that, duh! That doesn't matter anymore, by now people should see which format is going to take this, regardless of what Toshiba says.

:0(

Doesn't really matter... the damage has been done with all the news and headlines. Not to many will buy into HD-DVD after seeing all of that.

If they persist on holding out then you can bet their share price will plummet after today's rally.

Toshiba's share price rose to a 7-week high today after news of their imminent exit from HD DVD.

http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocks...ndChannel=10005

Who cares if corporate America made the decision or not. Does it really matter? It's not like they are deciding if your family should live or not.

This high def war has been fun, but i'm ready for it to end. Give it up HD DVD.

of course they are denying that they are dropping hd dvd.they have a lot of stock to flog.any of you old enough to remember vhs versus betamax know that the denials were flying then too.

Wrong! If any of you bothered to read any of the articles pronoucing hd-dvd demise,they all had one thing in common it was a from a "reliable source",not an official toshiba announcement unless someone can point me to a link where toshiba did admit defeat & were pulling it from shelves etc,then again saying that i'd say hd-dvd is gooooooooone..lol..

how many knifes do they have to put into HD DVDs heart to make toshiba understand its dead!!!!!

Toshiba has scheduled a press conference for Tuesday afternoon at 5PM Tokyo time, 12 midnight on the west coast. The announcement should come at that time.

http://www.nikkei.co.jp/news/main/20080219AT1D180DU18022008.html
http://www.digitalbits.com/#mytwocents

Anyone remember the betamax? that beast live for 10 years after it was declared dead. Eventually people stop buying them, but it died a slow painful death.

Update: The Toshiba Board of Directors has voted 19 - 0 to end HD DVD production/promotion:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2008/02/19/d20080219000025.html

Roughly translated:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=...n&hl=en&ie=UTF8

The official announcement to come at their 5pm (Tokyo time) press event.

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Originally posted by limelight:

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Give it up already. The retailers made their decision. The consumers made their decision.

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I don't know why people always say this. Yes retailers made up their minds to stock only one format, or shall I say "push" one format but, consumers never had a say in this, which is sad. The big studios made their decision and in turn, this made up the consumers "decision" on which format to back.

Toshiba denies they are dropping HD DVD, of course they are going to say that, duh! That doesn't matter anymore, by now people should see which format is going to take this, regardless of what Toshiba says.

:0(

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I say this because one format is obviously selling better than the other. So much so that it doesnt make sense to stock the "losing" format because the low profits/shelf space arent worth it for retailers.

Let me ask you this: HDdvd is a great format, but what about when videogames for example, start to get bigger and bigger in size? HD-dvd may be suitable now, but in 5 years from now it will be established, have a load of movies out, and then there would be another format coming out. Dont you think so? Blu-ray bypasses all that, giving developers almost 50gb to work with for both videogames and movies from the get go.

Another thing is, you can only compress so much data on a dvd. While it was cost efficient for Microsoft in the short term, pretty soon the magic white box may be hindered by a lack of data storage more and more games demand nowadays. Look at Mass Effect. When I played that, I noticed textures popping in and out as I went through the world, with frame drops to boot. Simply because either bad programming, (which I dont think is the reason at all), or too much data compressed on the disc, and the 360 cant uncompress all those textures fast enough to provide a smooth experience. In a year or two when the ps3 starts to show some graphics heavy games, the 360 cant compete. Which means youll have to fork out another $400 for another system when the ps3 already does it. Sony was bashed about saying the ps3 has a "10 year life cycle", but it makes complete sense: Give the consumer tommorrows technology today, and it will still prove to be a good investment years and years from now.

Originally posted by error5:

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Update: The Toshiba Board of Directors has voted 19 - 0 to end HD DVD production/promotion:

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2008/02/19/d20080219000025.html

Roughly translated:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=...n&hl=en&ie=UTF8

The official announcement to come at their 5pm (Tokyo time) press event.

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Wow... Not even one objection... I guess they can handle defeat real well...

But then again, the sooner the better, right? For them anyways. The faster they jump on the "Sony Fanwagon" the sooner they'll make more profit...

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This Battle reminds me of Monty Pythons Battle between the White Knight and the Black Night. After the Black Knight had both of his arms and legs chopped off, He was yelling at the White Knight to come back and Fight!

Meh its in its death throws or at least the start of them....

Originally posted by rarthurb:

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This Battle reminds me of Monty Pythons Battle between the White Knight and the Black Night. After the Black Knight had both of his arms and legs chopped off, He was yelling at the White Knight to come back and Fight!

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Engadget got your cue!

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/02/19/off...at-war-is-over/

well that's a relief - I mean seriously folks, who wants a format that sounds like a digitally modified version of an incurable sexual disease ? imagine the scenario...

cute girl : hey dude, have you got blu ray ?
guy : No, but i've got HD-DVD

think about it huh ?

Originally posted by domie:

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well that's a relief - I mean seriously folks, who wants a format that sounds like a digitally modified version of an incurable sexual disease ? imagine the scenario...

cute girl : hey dude, have you got blu ray ?
guy : No, but i've got HD-DVD

think about it huh ?

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HD DVD sounds more like a ungraded to DVD than blu ray which sounds like the rays new lazier pistol :P

We'll all be sorry.

I cant believe this whole war was even started. Sony made both formats and stuck to Blu-ray because it was better for the profit and consumer

Originally posted by hughjars:

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We'll all be sorry.

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Maybe you will... Nobody else really cared as much as you :P

Personally I could have cared less if HD-DVD won... I'd just go out and buy a player after a year or so once it settled in... No biggie for me.

Originally posted by hughjars:

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We'll all be sorry.

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Nope just you, told you so way back when.

I must say though it is too bad that Toshiba is throwing the towel in so soon, if that is what they are doing. If this is true then BD will not drop in price much more for a while so I hope that HD hangs in there. It is nice to see that corporate america is backing the better format at least we are going foreward.

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"The media reported that Toshiba will discontinue its HD DVD business. Toshiba has not made any announcement concerning this. Although Toshiba is currently assessing its business strategies, no decision has been made at this moment," read the complete statement.

This latest statement could simply be a way to stall before the decision to drop the failing format is officially made, but for now HD DVD fans still have some hope.

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We will just have to sit and wait for the outcome of this.

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We will just have to sit and wait for the outcome of this.

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LOL, sit back and wait for what? HD DVD is dead.

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