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Poison sues Capitol Records for cheating them out of royalties

20 June 2008 1:34 by Rich "vurbal" Fiscus | 21 comments

Poison sues Capitol Records for cheating them out of royalties As if to underscore Kid Rock's statements to the BBC about record labels, members of Poison are suing Capitol Records for allegedly cheating them out of royalties through a variety of intentional miscalculations. In fact, according to the suit the band's management hasn't even been able to get Capitol to show them the records necessary to correctly calculate what they're owed.

In the suit band members claim Capitol "willfully and consistently accounted to Plaintiffs for, and paid over to Plaintiffs, substantially less money than is properly due and owing to Plaintiffs pursuant to the terms of the Recording Agreement." In other words the label intentionally cheated them out of royalties.

It also goes on to accuse Capitol representatives of lying to them, not just at the time royalties were due, but also later when they tried to audit the relevant records as allowed by their recording contract.

I can't imagine why people don't take the music industry's piracy data seriously. They seem so honest in all their othe dealings.

You can read the text of the suit in this PDF file.

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    DXR88 (Member) 20 June 2008 2:08 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    I can't imagine why people don't take the music industry's piracy data seriously. They seem so honest in all their other dealings.

    if there Honest then your, Deaf,blind,and dumb.

    Your a fool, and got suckered right on in.
    iluvendo (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2008 2:22 Send private message to this user   
    i want to see more groups do this kind of thing.
    Pop_Smith (Senior Member) 20 June 2008 2:30 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by DXR88:
    if there Honest then your, Deaf,blind,and dumb.

    Your a fool, and got suckered right on in.
    I think vurbal was making a joke.

    Anyway, its good to see bands sticking up for themselves and fighting the record labels. Hopefully soon the way will change and things will become fair for the artists.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2008 3:11 Send private message to this user   
    Content creators get raped by corporations left and right and they have the balls to claim the high ground....
    EricCarr (Junior Member) 20 June 2008 4:30 Send private message to this user   
    I read on another site. Maybe it was Blabbermouth.net. I am not sure. Poison is only suing them for $25,000.
    7thsinger (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2008 8:40 Send private message to this user   
    Take 'em down Poison!

    Quote:
    In other words the label intentionally cheated them out of royalties
    Every rose has it's thorn?
    joe777 (Junior Member) 20 June 2008 9:22 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Take 'em down Poison!

    Quote:
    In other words the label intentionally cheated them out of royalties
    Every rose has it's thorn?
    He he he
    and for the record label " every night has its dawn"
    beanos66 (Newbie) 20 June 2008 11:27 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Quote:
    I can't imagine why people don't take the music industry's piracy data seriously. They seem so honest in all their other dealings.

    if there Honest then your, Deaf,blind,and dumb.

    Your a fool, and got suckered right on in.
    whoosh...

    ...right over his head
    xSModder (Junior Member) 20 June 2008 16:23 Send private message to this user   
    haha @ totally missing the point
    but otherwise it's nice to see an artist lashing out at the media giants. really makes me feel all warm inside :)
    lynchGOP (Newbie) 20 June 2008 16:39 Send private message to this user   
    English 101:


    Regarding "There, their and they're"



    There = I'm going over there (direction)

    Their = It's their fault and he is their friend (possessive)

    They're = conjunction (2 words put together, 'they' + 'are')
    (i.e. They are being ridiculous or 'they're' being ridiculous)



    Class is now concluded.


    This is not meant to be insulting. Only those too ignorant to care to be corrected and no desire to learn will be offended. Guess we'll (we will) find out.
    Azuran (Newbie) 20 June 2008 17:04 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by lynchGOP:
    English 101:


    Regarding "There, their and they're"



    There = I'm going over there (direction)

    Their = It's their fault and he is their friend (possessive)

    They're = conjunction (2 words put together, 'they' + 'are')
    (i.e. They are being ridiculous or 'they're' being ridiculous)



    Class is now concluded.


    This is not meant to be insulting. Only those too ignorant to care to be corrected and no desire to learn will be offended. Guess we'll (we will) find out.
    It's the internet. No one cares.
    DXR88 (Member) 20 June 2008 17:09 Send private message to this user   
    Heh, Nice GOP. Glad you know your Spelling. good for you.


    As for the Article. Record labels are a thing of the past, it's your band Manage it yourself. We know you want to Sit on your lazy ass all day and have a blast with your money, all bands are formed With
    instant-success in mind. if you cant perform because you love Music. then you choose the wrong career.

    Its really as simple as that.
    7thsinger (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2008 22:11 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by Azuran:
    Originally posted by lynchGOP:
    English 101:


    Regarding "There, their and they're"



    There = I'm going over there (direction)

    Their = It's their fault and he is their friend (possessive)

    They're = conjunction (2 words put together, 'they' + 'are')
    (i.e. They are being ridiculous or 'they're' being ridiculous)



    Class is now concluded.


    This is not meant to be insulting. Only those too ignorant to care to be corrected and no desire to learn will be offended. Guess we'll (we will) find out.
    It's the internet. No one cares.
    I humbly beg to differ. I also prefer proper spelling, punctuation, and use of words and conjunctions. I think it makes it harder for anyone to take anything you have to say seriously if translating it becomes a chore.

    Back to the article.

    I'd like to see something swing in favor of the artists, as we all know the labels get rich while taxing every possible angle of the people that provide their income.

    They dry them out, rip them off, then discard if necessary.

    iluvendo (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2008 22:39 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by 7thsinger:




    They dry them out, rip them off, then discard if necessary.

    The term is "expendable assets", nothing more

    If it wasnt for bad luck, Id have no luck!
    "The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
    Ferengi 82nd rule of aquisition
    varnull (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2008 22:44 Send private message to this user   
    assets or asses? (just got through watching "cribs"... now where the hell is my gun??.. Granny.. there some crap out on the porch needin' dealin' wit!)



    Free open source software = made by end users who want an application to work. Im going outside now.. and I may be some time........
    DXR88 (Member) 20 June 2008 23:28 Send private message to this user   
    Varnull Comment =LOL
    7thsinger (AfterDawn Addict) 21 June 2008 8:05 Send private message to this user   
    Originally posted by varnull:
    assets or asses? (just got through watching "cribs"... now where the hell is my gun??.. Granny.. there some crap out on the porch needin' dealin' wit!)
    Much agreed! How the hell did you sit through "cribs?"

    DXR88 (Member) 21 June 2008 14:42 Send private message to this user   
    An ancient Chinese Secret Only Varnull knows..
    aldan (Member) 22 June 2008 16:06 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Originally posted by lynchGOP:
    English 101:


    Regarding "There, their and they're"



    There = I'm going over there (direction)

    Their = It's their fault and he is their friend (possessive)

    They're = conjunction (2 words put together, 'they' + 'are')
    (i.e. They are being ridiculous or 'they're' being ridiculous)



    Class is now concluded.


    This is not meant to be insulting. Only those too ignorant to care to be corrected and no desire to learn will be offended. Guess we'll (we will) find out.
    It's the internet. No one cares.
    It is not that you dont care that bothers me.Its your freakin lack of literacy.
    varnull (AfterDawn Addict) 22 June 2008 16:27 Send private message to this user   
    I dun got learned to rite at unyvursetee.. dun me no hurt neither >> loooolz!

    BTW.. concerning "Cribs".. I had to watch because I couldn't believe how much money an illiterate {censored..censored} could get paid by these stupid record companies.. Plus I never heard of the prick. he likes guns and drugs so much.. cool.. give me a heap of pcp and a 45 and his address... bet he ain't so keen on them after I get through ridding the world of some vermin @ his millionaires mansion all paid for by ghetto kids and stupid wannabe boy racers.

    go Poison.. I think you suck, along with bon asshat and tigertailz and all the rest of them pretend rock bands, but anybody who has the guts to stand up and say "Hey.. we bein' robbed by the record company" is up 1 point in my books.
    More power to your lawyers... now why don't you give all your music away on p2p networks if you really want some respect?



    Free open source software = made by end users who want an application to work. Im going outside now.. and I may be some time........

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22 June 2008 16:28

    Azuran (Newbie) 22 June 2008 19:03 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Quote:
    Originally posted by lynchGOP:
    English 101:


    Regarding "There, their and they're"



    There = I'm going over there (direction)

    Their = It's their fault and he is their friend (possessive)

    They're = conjunction (2 words put together, 'they' + 'are')
    (i.e. They are being ridiculous or 'they're' being ridiculous)



    Class is now concluded.


    This is not meant to be insulting. Only those too ignorant to care to be corrected and no desire to learn will be offended. Guess we'll (we will) find out.
    It's the internet. No one cares.
    It is not that you dont care that bothers me.Its your freakin lack of literacy.
    Oh really? What part of my post showed a lack of literacy? Do you know what literacy means? I think by being able to type complete sentences I have proven to be literate. Bad grammar does not equal "lack of literacy". Missing a few apostrophe's yourself hypocrite.
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