I've always wondered about this. I guess you b etter make sure you have your wifi password protected. Then again your neighbor can hack it, download illegal stuff, then you get busted.

What are the implications using the FON network, what you do is share a portion of your bandwidth so everyone can enjoy FREE wi-fi.

http://www.fon.com/en/

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FON is the largest WiFi community in the world. FON is a Community of people making WiFi universal and free. Our vision is WiFi everywhere made possible by the members of the Community, Foneros. We share some of our home Internet connection and get free access to the Community’s FON Spots worldwide!

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Common sense prevails in Germany at least.

To accuse somebody of piracy when they have been the victims of theft is stupid and immoral.. It's like holding me responsible for an armed robbery in which my car which had been stolen was used as the getaway vehicle.

Davenport Lyons are surely using threatening and intimidating behaviour with these letters. There is no such UK ruling that somebody who is the victim of the illegal activities of others is liable.. never has been and probably never will. I think it is time to bring their activities to a wider audience. The law lords would probably have an opinion on this threatening behaviour.. They are using threats of malicious legal action probably in some attempt to establish a framework to extort money from the said victims.

Here we go peeps.. Stealing wifi is the way to download whatever you want with impunity ;) Welcome to the darknet XD

At least it makes sense not to attempt and implicate those who've been pilfered.

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So what if someone has 2 wfi fi sets one open and one to leech from it, can they figure out where all that data is going?

nobrains2 aka nobrainer, remember no flamewars.

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temp ban was temp I see :P
(sorry zippy being a bad kitty ><)

nobrains2
is it avablie in Germany?

I would think that the network acts like a normal ISP setup so you are only accountable for your own bandwidth and because its all mixed they should not be able to tell whats what unless they can scan where ever bit of bandwith is going. 0-o

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nobrains2
is it avablie in Germany?

I would think that the network acts like a normal ISP setup so you are only accountable for your own bandwidth and because its all mixed they should not be able to tell whats what unless they can scan where ever bit of bandwith is going. 0-o

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as far as i'm aware if you agree to share your bandwidth you can connect anywhere in the world to any FON free wireless point, you just need their router on your connection that sections a portion of bandwidth off for other fon users to be able to use the service.

i'm certain they have a map of connections around the globe via their website.

As far as I'm concerned the only flamewars have been from some newbies and fanboys, including some mods, jumping no brainer's case. It is disgusting to see such behavior in a tech site! As I expect to be nuked for this post, I can continue to get my tech news from arstechnica, CNet, ZDnet, PCWorld, NYT Tech and computerworld without the insane actions of the pack. Grow up.

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As far as I'm concerned the only flamewars have been from some newbies and fanboys, including some mods, jumping no brainer's case. It is disgusting to see such behavior in a tech site! As I expect to be nuked for this post, I can continue to get my tech news from arstechnica, CNet, ZDnet, PCWorld, NYT Tech and computerworld without the insane actions of the pack. Grow up.

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CNet/ZDnet.... eewwww :P

I'll agree but at he same time members need to remember than they also have to moderate them selfs and not always try and push things so far.

I'l support Nobrwains as much as anyone else but sometimes he dose take it to the next level, and props to the staff for letting him come back as a newb! ^^

Only relevant news comments here please...

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I'll agree but at he same time members need to remember than they also have to moderate them selfs and not always try and push things so far.

I'l support Nobrwains as much as anyone else but sometimes he dose take it to the next level, and props to the staff for letting him come back as a newb! ^^

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Yea, you're right. Let's just let it be, everybody get off nobrainer's case, give him a chance to redeem his renounced Newbie status and leave him alone.

So how easy dose this make it for a person with open wifi to get way from the MP3 police?

Easily. I do it, how can they track? They use the IP addy.

If you look closely at the BT Homehubs you will find that when you are not using them.. PC off etc then they can be used as an open access wifi point by persons unknown. This may be something to do with the shady bbc p2p plans for their Iplayer technology. I need to look more at that, and have sourced a homehub on the cheap to investigate.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/3221-...-community.html

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^Good work

Now i agree the wifi connection should be secured with a wep encryption.

That isn't the problem though.

If you have a video game console that doesn't support your wep settings for instant the nintendo wii here in the u.s.a only supports 32bit and 64 bit encryption it doesn't support however 128 bit encryption.

Which sucks..

Because all three have been hacked using applications that crack wireless signals so even if you protect yourself and your consoles you are still a target of direct hacking.

Just like to say no one should be using WEP .. they should be on WPA.
WEP is out dated.

WPA-PSK can be broken too. It just takes the right tools and enough time and patience (plus a list of router default keys which can be had very easily) I use cracked wifi secured with it from sources unknown for all my p2p activities here.

Strangely running a sniffer against a detected network (and here is where windows security falls flat on it's arse) will expose the packets from the router to the other machines on the network.. if you are lucky enough to catch the handshake packets it's easy to compare the encrypted data against a table of possible keys, then brute force a connection by masquerading as the machine you have detected.. it's mac number is contained in the 2 way handshake headers, which are often running default keys or not encrypted at all... Is that telling too much?

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