I thought there was a plug in for firefox to let you access windows update ?
Good news is that in the next operating system "Windows 7", there is an option to turn off internet explorer completely.
Windows 7 is so much smoother and faster than Vista.

Originally posted by domie:

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I thought there was a plug in for firefox to let you access windows update ?
Good news is that in the next operating system "Windows 7", there is an option to turn off internet explorer completely.
Windows 7 is so much smoother and faster than Vista.

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Are you kidding Windows 7 is like ME that was a butch added stuff on top of 98.

W7 is a bunch of stuff added to Vista and we all know vista sucks we all know this for awhile.

I have tried the beta but I know there are things that will change.

Maybe when the full release is out it will be good.

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What is IE pro

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I don't know how to use that googly thing either.

Originally posted by domie:

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I thought there was a plug in for firefox to let you access windows update ?

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Try this?...
http://windizupdate.com/

just tried ie8 on my xp pro x86 machine and IE8 decided to murder my pc half the pc didnt work and the sites IE8 loaded were weird and all out of place im use to testing beta and alpha stuff im currently using firefox 3.6 alpha and the funny thing is its way more stable and faster than IE8 or IE7

IE8 couldnt even load google properly the search bar was so tiny while the rest of it was right...heavily unhappy with IE8

my pc isnt even 3 months old yet so i know my OS is fine...

took a bit to fix but gave me something to do hope you all have fun with Intershit blooper :D

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Originally posted by domie:

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I thought there was a plug in for firefox to let you access windows update ?

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Try this?...
http://windizupdate.com/

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It made my FF crash twice when i tried the scan for updates.

And yes I know how too use the googly thing but your a real riot.

The Firefox extension that you are talking about is called IE tab. You can find it here. It allows you to view the current page like it would appear in Internet Explorer.

Does anyone know if they solved the DVDShrink issue?

Ahhh the FF defense squad, a team of wannabe IT managers and experts. We use FF because its either "faster" or more "secure" then IE doesnt lock up our computers doesnt blue screen blah blah the list goes on and on. Does anyone here actually work in the industry? Dont come out with your bullshit lies either 99% of industry programs designed for specific work places ONLY work with IE.

A few simple facts.

FF has more vulnerabilities then both IE and Chrome, don't belive me look it up. Actualy after just checking IE8 has NO thats right NO unpatched vulnerabilities.

http://www.securityfocus.com

Faster? Up to the end user and there configuration, net speed etc. Alot of depending factors. Out of the box IE8 is faster then FF for me along with chrome.

Im not here to rain on Firefox or bag the browser, just to state some simple facts that seem to be ignored by the ignorant. IE8 has had vulnerabilities and will of course get more in its time but because of patch tuesday amoung other things it has NO holes at the present. Anything that is found is usually patched within days 90% of the time before the exploits even released to public.

Im not saying firefox doesnt get patched but it has numerous holes at the moment many of them critical (check the mozilla website). Patching can take up to a few months.

This isnt FF vs IE6 anymore. Times have changed.

Who rattled your cage?

I wouldn't use IE EVEN IF it was available for my platform.. which thankfully it isn't

It isn't standards compliant.. and any business which writes webpages and applications which only work with IE and are therefore also not standards compliant are doomed to go down when M$ do.

Anyway.. as reported above.. it doesn't work.. just like XP and fists.. broken by design lmfao!

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Ater a lot of buggering about with downloading updates restarting and installing ie8, finally gave it a go.My canon web printing programs wouldnt work with it, and i saw a slowdown in my graphics performance, no advantages over previous explorers and a lot of bloated wind about accelerators that are only applicable to a waffle of applications.Yet again another piece of crap.Needless to say that it was uninstalled, and im back to ie6.Which is still faster than firecrap and opera.Dont bother with ie8, maybe ie9 will be worth it

i've just uninstalled it and gone back to IE7 as keep getting messages on launching IE8 that it's incompatible with some of my add-ons (which work fine with IE7) and that IE8 may crash (which it did).

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Hooray, hope it supports IEPro

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it doesn't support ie7 pro - as i found out.
you'll have to wait for ie8 pro i suppose.

Oh well maybe better luck with IE9

http://www.itproportal.com/security/news...already-hacked/

Think i,ll stick with Firefox

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Originally posted by consul:

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Oh well maybe better luck with IE9

http://www.itproportal.com/security/news...already-hacked/

Think i,ll stick with Firefox

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There might not be an IE9. Rumor has it that IE8 is the last.

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/10/1942232

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Hey Fordsrule you said your using Firefox 3.6, there is only Firefox 3.1 beta 3!
And even though Internet Explorer 8.0 locks up on and all, Firefox locks up also. So take it for grain of salt, No web browser is perfect no matter how much anyone whines....

I read somewhere not long ago, that they were gonna bag IE! And that they were gonna build Firefox into the Windows 7 OS! I forget where I read that, but if FF is really so vulnerable, is that really a good idea(ehh, im sure they would work that out)? By the way, I thought IE8 was pretty stable on Windows 7. Quite the opposite on Xp though. ehhh...it was built for 7 originally.

Wow, its like it was just a rumor! I cant find it anywhere now.

Originally posted by fordsrule:

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just tried ie8 on my xp pro x86 machine and IE8 decided to murder my pc half the pc didnt work and the sites IE8 loaded were weird and all out of place im use to testing beta and alpha stuff im currently using firefox 3.6 alpha and the funny thing is its way more stable and faster than IE8 or IE7

IE8 couldnt even load google properly the search bar was so tiny while the rest of it was right...heavily unhappy with IE8

my pc isnt even 3 months old yet so i know my OS is fine...

took a bit to fix but gave me something to do hope you all have fun with Intershit blooper :D

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Yeah I learned this lesson with IE 3.0 Beta. I had 2.0 and the 3.0 beta was out, so I decided to try it out. You know, I was just thinking "Hey, it's just a web browser, not like it can screw up my system or anything. If it doesn't work right I'll just uninstall it."

Really though, how many programs do you install that screw up your whole computer when they don't work? So far it's only been IE 3.0 beta, and DirectX 5. My dad did recently try the IE 8.0 Beta and the same thing happened to him.

Right now I'm at the point where "faster" loading web pages don't matter to me. They all load within 2 seconds at most anyway. And security isn't that big of a deal. Those days of going to a random porn site and then when you try to close it, you have 10 more pop-ups popping up for the next 5 mintues are over. The days of discovering a lot of porno shortcuts on your desktop after visiting a porn site are over. The days of getting an assload of spyware randomly installed on your pc by just going to a random webpage are over. Thanks Firefox.

Just some more crap from M$. I just installed today on a co-worker's machine and after less than 10 mins of using it... I was asked to remove it. Funny...it's less compatible with the Internet than the last version.

No Thanks... Stickin' with the Fox!

I prefer Firefox as I can add many new things to it with extensions. It's much more customisable.

www.getfirefox.com

Wow! Where to start?

Varnull: 100% agree. IE6 wasn't compliant with PNG transparency. A lot of CSS stuff is broken too. I suffer even worse on my old Mac OSX 10.2, where I have IE4 for Mac long before Safari came out (and is incompatible.)

IE7Pro is a group of functionality add-ons for IE7 that makes it "close" to FF, such as session management and bookmark syncing. However, if you polish a turd, it's still... a turd!

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Microsoft says IE8 "blocks two to four times more malware attacks than other browsers," including Firefox and Safari.

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So how can IE8 block more malware? Is there a subscription based add-on for IE, like AdBlockPlus in FF? MS can't even get Windows Defender to block or REMOVE malware, so my faith in IE8 is little to none.

All of that "Wannabe IT Manager" banter from the above post got me thinking. You are hosed using IE as long as it's still tied to that little pain in the neck known as ActiveX. IE also uses "install on demand" which of course is now that "yellow bar" the comes up with warnings, which is more annoying than it is useful.

Also guess what? Most apps that are designed to work with IE, ESPECIALLY the corporate environment you are talking about, fail to work properly when a new IE is released. It took our company almost an entire year to get patches that allowed us to upgrade to IE7 from IE6. Invalid security tickets, invalid pages, and the list goes on and on. We had to tweak the pop-up blocker for one app, and fix compatibility with Java. Oh, and what if the site is outside of the set security level or zone? What if that said zone is set by group policy? Do you want to open up the flood gates to get one app, that was written for IE, to work? Varnull hit the nail on the head: non-compliant!

The only way IE is "safe" in a corporate environment is if you have a state of the art firewall in place, and end users have restricted web access. The minute you take a PC, such as a laptop offsite, it is usually infected with spyware and trojans, like Antivirus 2009. We'll see how IE8 fares...

For the other comment above about Windows 7 being the next "ME" you are so wrong. Vista is clearly the bomb that ME was. 7 brings some new features to the table that are useful instead of counter productive as they were with Vista.

Not to mention that 7 doesn't need a hotrod of a system to run either. Check out the one forum here on AD and see the systems that some of us like myself and Omegaman have gotten 7 to run on (and not just barely run) and maybe that will change your mind.

I'm sure the sweaty Ballmer wrote that IE8 blurb with a crayon in his mouth from his padded cell. Only a lunatic would recommend Internet Explorer these days.

Ballmer is a graphic example why M$ only puts out crap. With guys like that running the show, they are going to keep putting out worthless everything.