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Los Angeles thinks piracy is a “public nuisance”

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 10 May 2008 22:26 User comments (39)

Los Angeles thinks piracy is a “public nuisance” Citing “minor input” from the MPAA and RIAA, the Los Angeles County government has now added piracy to its definition of “public nuisance", meaning all properties used in the dissemination of counterfeit goods can now be seized.
Physically pirated goods, such as bootleg DVDs or CDs, are now considered to be the same as counterfeit watches or handbags.

This new so called "Counterfeit Goods Nuisance Abatement ordinance" says that the counterfeit goods “substantially interfere with … lawful commerce in the county, property values, and is detrimental to the public health, safety, and welfare of the county's citizens, its businesses, and its visitors.”

Any property owner that knowingly allows piracy on their premises can be held responsible to pay $1000 USD for every, yes every, pirated work produced. The district attorney can also “temporarily restrain, preliminarily enjoin, and/or permanently enjoin the person or persons intentionally conducting, or knowingly maintaining or permitting the public nuisance from further conducting, maintaining, or permitting such public nuisance.”

The ordinance is similar to that of the recent one passed in New York City but this ordinance does not seem to bother those who upload or download pirated movies and music from the Internet.

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39 user comments

110.5.2008 23:02
susieqbbb
Inactive

and lets see them try to inforce this because more and more people are using illegal means and some of these counterfiters are so good that you cannot even see the diffrence.

Lame dumb law.

210.5.2008 23:02

OK so what does this mean ?

310.5.2008 23:13

Originally posted by iluvendo:
OK so what does this mean ?

if it's anything like the sort of law we have here with drugs,
it means that they can almost seize everything a "pirate" owns.
if you're caught making bootleg media, then they can take your car since it transports the media and you.
they can take your house if you made sales out of it or used it as a facility to create bootlegs.
although i can see the possible legitimate applications for drug dealers being busted,
the similar laws we have against even drugs seem awfully...socialist to me.
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410.5.2008 23:57
cousinkix
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Most of the people arrested for music and video piracy in the state of Kalifornia are in fact MEXICAN nationals. Local newscasts regularly show police and RIAA/MPAA raids at flea markets. Few white, black or even Asian people are arrested for these crimes.

The Salinas and Santa Cruz flea markets (300 miles up the coast) were raided in recent weeks. More of the same there too.

Los Angeles won't even enforce the FEDERAL gun control laws. Illegal aliens, who commit crimes with illegal firearms are not turned over to be deported for those VIOLENT felonies either. No wonder they have gang wars and drive by shooting almost every night. People actually die in vain; because those IDIOTS in city hall are afraid of being called names!

Kalifornia prisons are full of those MEXICAN MAFIA and NUESTA FAMILIA organized crime groups. El Salvador's MS-13 gang is even worse. They fight behind bars and on the streets. Not much will happen, when they realize that the same guys are peddling bootleg CDs and DVDs...

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511.5.2008 2:07

cousinkix
wow what a one sided post dripping with questionable merit.

you haz points but work harder on themz plz.
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This "law" made for and by the media mafia and its family members dose 2 things, makes anything that may fall under fair use illicit and backs it up by stealing property to crush the lil guy completely.

611.5.2008 3:46

Los Angeles is one of the biggest public nuisances in history.
It should be obliterated, like Berkeley, Hollywood and most of the upper east coast of America.

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711.5.2008 5:12

dont worry cousinkix, someday dream will be true and you will be free of us mexicans, just wait 10 to 15 more years, in that time, being the ass you are, you'll probably end up od'ing with your frat buddies or even better, i'll see you on the tomatoe fields, since you are so hasty to expell all the people putting food in your table, bu hey maybe you would preffer so robots doing that job, so you can have your very personal matrix

811.5.2008 7:41

Originally posted by Gradical:
dont worry cousinkix, someday dream will be true and you will be free of us mexicans, just wait 10 to 15 more years, in that time, being the ass you are, you'll probably end up od'ing with your frat buddies or even better, i'll see you on the tomatoe fields, since you are so hasty to expell all the people putting food in your table, bu hey maybe you would preffer so robots doing that job, so you can have your very personal matrix
Because that is so what he meant by his post...

He is pissed off that in his opinion criminals are not being deported because of their nationality. He said that the problem is just being ignored because the people in power fear a backlash from voters if they say anything. A bit like the way you just jumped down his throat, as a pose to even start to acknowledge that there may be a grain of truth in what he says (not everything though!).

911.5.2008 9:47

Quote:
Originally posted by Gradical:
dont worry cousinkix, someday dream will be true and you will be free of us mexicans, just wait 10 to 15 more years, in that time, being the ass you are, you'll probably end up od'ing with your frat buddies or even better, i'll see you on the tomatoe fields, since you are so hasty to expell all the people putting food in your table, bu hey maybe you would preffer so robots doing that job, so you can have your very personal matrix
Because that is so what he meant by his post...

He is pissed off that in his opinion criminals are not being deported because of their nationality. He said that the problem is just being ignored because the people in power fear a backlash from voters if they say anything. A bit like the way you just jumped down his throat, as a pose to even start to acknowledge that there may be a grain of truth in what he says (not everything though!).
ya but he is going offtopic, the tone of the post feels like "ZOMG the evil mexicans", I see his points but I also see him ranting offtopic.

frankly for me the US is good enough to not "deport all aliens" at the same time the illeagles are screwing the subtle balance sates and cities have to take care of them selfs the balance of population is more of an issue than taxes or even "criminals", until the goverment can sort and ID these people if they are not a criminal give them temp papers and send them back to work with garnished wages the US needs money and workers more than people tied down with 10 year+ redtape.

1011.5.2008 12:24

Originally posted by cousinkix:
Most of the people arrested for music and video piracy in the state of Kalifornia are in fact MEXICAN nationals. Local newscasts regularly show police and RIAA/MPAA raids at flea markets. Few white, black or even Asian people are arrested for these crimes.

The Salinas and Santa Cruz flea markets (300 miles up the coast) were raided in recent weeks. More of the same there too.

Los Angeles won't even enforce the FEDERAL gun control laws. Illegal aliens, who commit crimes with illegal firearms are not turned over to be deported for those VIOLENT felonies either. No wonder they have gang wars and drive by shooting almost every night. People actually die in vain; because those IDIOTS in city hall are afraid of being called names!

Kalifornia prisons are full of those MEXICAN MAFIA and NUESTA FAMILIA organized crime groups. El Salvador's MS-13 gang is even worse. They fight behind bars and on the streets. Not much will happen, when they realize that the same guys are peddling bootleg CDs and DVDs...
just a racist ridiculous person. first of all where is your proof. everyone gets busted for bootlegs. china has the largest bootlegging markets in the world. When youre on the streets of ny, or sf bootleggers are definitely not mexican

everyone does it, and some people get busted for it. Your mexican rant is just your own stupidity burned into you by your stupid parents, or your stupid friends. btw, im not mexican, and it's spelled California

1111.5.2008 12:29

Quote:
Originally posted by cousinkix:
Most of the people arrested for music and video piracy in the state of Kalifornia are in fact MEXICAN nationals. Local newscasts regularly show police and RIAA/MPAA raids at flea markets. Few white, black or even Asian people are arrested for these crimes.

The Salinas and Santa Cruz flea markets (300 miles up the coast) were raided in recent weeks. More of the same there too.

Los Angeles won't even enforce the FEDERAL gun control laws. Illegal aliens, who commit crimes with illegal firearms are not turned over to be deported for those VIOLENT felonies either. No wonder they have gang wars and drive by shooting almost every night. People actually die in vain; because those IDIOTS in city hall are afraid of being called names!

Kalifornia prisons are full of those MEXICAN MAFIA and NUESTA FAMILIA organized crime groups. El Salvador's MS-13 gang is even worse. They fight behind bars and on the streets. Not much will happen, when they realize that the same guys are peddling bootleg CDs and DVDs...
just a racist ridiculous person. first of all where is your proof. everyone gets busted for bootlegs. china has the largest bootlegging markets in the world. When youre on the streets of ny, or sf bootleggers are definitely not mexican

everyone does it, and some people get busted for it. Your mexican rant is just your own stupidity burned into you by your stupid parents, or your stupid friends. btw, im not mexican, and it's spelled California
first off there are problems with iliages filling the jails and the government not doing a thing about it(but yo bro cousinkix uuu iz going OTT a bit), 2dly AmeriKa/Kalifornia its a fun way to call out the communistic/socialistic trendies showing up more and more these days.

1211.5.2008 12:30

Quote:
Originally posted by Gradical:
dont worry cousinkix, someday dream will be true and you will be free of us mexicans, just wait 10 to 15 more years, in that time, being the ass you are, you'll probably end up od'ing with your frat buddies or even better, i'll see you on the tomatoe fields, since you are so hasty to expell all the people putting food in your table, bu hey maybe you would preffer so robots doing that job, so you can have your very personal matrix
Because that is so what he meant by his post...

He is pissed off that in his opinion criminals are not being deported because of their nationality. He said that the problem is just being ignored because the people in power fear a backlash from voters if they say anything. A bit like the way you just jumped down his throat, as a pose to even start to acknowledge that there may be a grain of truth in what he says (not everything though!).


alright edit. maybe you didnt mean it that way. but honestly if voters backlash, its because what the person said was wrong
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1311.5.2008 12:36

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by Gradical:
dont worry cousinkix, someday dream will be true and you will be free of us mexicans, just wait 10 to 15 more years, in that time, being the ass you are, you'll probably end up od'ing with your frat buddies or even better, i'll see you on the tomatoe fields, since you are so hasty to expell all the people putting food in your table, bu hey maybe you would preffer so robots doing that job, so you can have your very personal matrix
Because that is so what he meant by his post...

He is pissed off that in his opinion criminals are not being deported because of their nationality. He said that the problem is just being ignored because the people in power fear a backlash from voters if they say anything. A bit like the way you just jumped down his throat, as a pose to even start to acknowledge that there may be a grain of truth in what he says (not everything though!).

this response is even more ridiculous. you actually think that the anti-alien community is the underdog in the whole thing? Its amazing how people only view things from their own perspective. If you think everyone should feel sorry for the anti alien community for being discriminated against, you are not the brightest either.
Take another look at the dims and the reapers and tell me they are the under dog again?
they are on equal footing with the rest of the large interest groups for the most part..... I can stand the people trying to find work here but I can not stand the reparation/give it all back/we are all legal crowed BS.

1411.5.2008 13:50

This didn't do anything in New York. I can't see why this is going to be any different. Just go to Canal st., bootleg dvd's are all still there.

1511.5.2008 14:06

Originally posted by 21Q:
This didn't do anything in New York. I can't see why this is going to be any different. Just go to Canal st., bootleg dvd's are all still there.
The legislation in NY has actually done ALOT to stop counterfeit goods from being sold on the streets of NYC. Of course there are people still selling pirated DVDs but nowhere in the abundance that it was 2 or 3 years ago.

1611.5.2008 14:16

I went to CA in 2000 and was surprised at how many spanish peeps were at the mall. I was walking around and I was the only white guy there. This was in Bakersfield, near Los Angeles. My friend who was a kindergarten teacher said 99% of her students were spanish, and their parents thought it unfair to learn English.

They really shouldnt stay here unless they want to learn English. This aint a bilingual country. English is the language of business.

1711.5.2008 14:47

Did they really make english the language of the US? But you can also do business in spanish cause sometimes in the resturaunts they run you can only pay in THEIR currency. Its stupid to send your kids to school in a different country and not want them to learn the language that everyone speaks there.

1811.5.2008 19:17

Quote:
The legislation in NY has actually done ALOT to stop counterfeit goods from being sold on the streets of NYC. Of course there are people still selling pirated DVDs but nowhere in the abundance that it was 2 or 3 years ago.
I am just wondering...Who are the numskulls that even buy bootlegged DVDs? Probably burned on a CMC.Mag disc at X20 speed!!
I mean, Red Box nowadays it has been popping up at every street corner...A rental is $1, a blank DVD is $0.25, more or less- how much cheaper can a bootlegged POS can be? Who are the idiots buying those? And for CD's...you can Google and get almost any song you want, why would someone pay even a cent for a bootlegged CD?!
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1911.5.2008 19:27

Because they either don't know how to back up their own or are too lazy to.


"The flimsier the product,the higher the price"
Ferengi 82nd rule of aqusition


2011.5.2008 19:54
varnull
Inactive

Or don't have the means to... not everybody has a home... let alone a computer and the internet.

2111.5.2008 20:18

Originally posted by varnull:
Or don't have the means to... not everybody has a home... let alone a computer and the internet.

LOL, I wonder, those homeless people where they keep their bootlegged DVD collection? Probably next to the cart full of aluminum cans!
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Piss me off, and I Will ignore You!

2211.5.2008 20:28

I would like to think that crack is more of a nuisance...

2311.5.2008 20:30
varnull
Inactive

Quite possibly.. or they are the ones selling them.....

There are plenty of people I fix tv's and microwaves and the like for who don't have computers. It's about 50/50 in the uk by household.. But I'm trying to help by recycling old p3 systems into homes at minimal cost.

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2411.5.2008 20:42

My PC is a 7 y.o (maybe 8) Gateway, 950MHz AMD. I got it for free(someone was throwing it away about 3 years ago. I have only invested in some RAM a burner and a mouse! It does all that I need.
The internet is free at Public Libraries and Community Colleges. That's how I stay up to date with my software during summer time when I take a job somewhere away...
This might be a reason for buying a bootlegged DVD:


2512.5.2008 12:00
rob0t3ch
Inactive

Bird crap on statues is a nuisance too.

WHO CARES!!

2612.5.2008 12:48

Originally posted by windsong:
I went to CA in 2000 and was surprised at how many spanish peeps were at the mall. I was walking around and I was the only white guy there. This was in Bakersfield, near Los Angeles. My friend who was a kindergarten teacher said 99% of her students were spanish, and their parents thought it unfair to learn English.

They really shouldnt stay here unless they want to learn English. This aint a bilingual country. English is the language of business.
Windsong, you're such a freakn liar. I have lived in Bakersfield since 2002, and your b.s. statement is so far from the truth.
Did you go to the Valley Plaza? Or the East Hills Mall?
Your "teacher friend" is either full of b.s. like you or your just invented that friend. I work for greenfield school district and they are far from being 99% latino(you don't say spanish because then you are referring to people from Spain..pendejo!).
Anyway, you probably live somewhere down Rosedale, you're white, and you're stupid!
C-ya at the mall 8^)

2712.5.2008 17:26
cousinkix
Inactive

WRONG Illegal aliens are not allowed to have firearms. The corrupt LAPD won't even report the ones who commit FEDERAL crimes with guns. I've had more than enough of corrupt politicians who won't enforce their own damned laws; because somebody will call the racists.

If you carry guns, shoot up the streets and sell drugs; yah I want your azz out of here ASAP.

2812.5.2008 20:46

I thought this article was supposed to be about the MPAA/RIAA, pirating, rights infringement...In exchange, it brought out the best out of some people...all I can see is racist and xenophobic remarks...
Anyway, for those that are so "anti-foreigners"...what makes Mr. Smith,natural born U.S Citizen, rapist and killer, that right now is rotting in prison, maybe waiting on death row and leeching on taxpayer's money, what makes him better that Jose, born and raised somewhere in Mexico, hard working man that is actually being productive for the society, as much as he is allowed to be productive...
What happened with "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,..."
Sorry people, you can cry "go home ese" as much as you want, Spanish will very soon become the second language, officially or unofficially, at least in the coastal/southern states. It's a reality. And without the people that you hate so much, if tomorrow all of them would just "vanish", our already crippled economy would just collapse.
Well, you don't have to take the blame,you can always blame the society/environment for making a hater out of you!

2912.5.2008 20:52

cyprusrom

the problem being the damage done to the workers who are "in hiding",the unbalancedness to local populations and thier free(not food stamps and health care) services and the stiffening effect to wages.

The "damage" is more triangulable than piracy, I say make the temp systems in place start handing out IDs when they get caught, send them back to work with garnished wages and focus on fixing this one sided antaquited and broken immigration system, that will do more good than a unfunded wall project.

3012.5.2008 21:06

...But then the Congress would have to brake tradition and actually do something useful...They can't handle the legal immigration, which is pretty much black and white. Every time someone proposes a good bill that seems to solve some issues, they take turns into ruing it, if is not the Senate, then is the House.If somehow through a miracle both Senate and the House agree, then knucklehead says "screw you both", and gives his veto... There is no easy fix, but they are definitely wasting resources on useless projects.

3112.5.2008 21:20
saltynuts
Inactive

the governor of LA is a actor.so thats why piracy is a big thing.and not crack he is a rich well known actor.who cares about all the poor people strung out on crack

3212.5.2008 21:36

Originally posted by saltynuts:
the governor of LA is a actor.so thats why piracy is a big thing.and not crack he is a rich well known actor.who cares about all the poor people strung out on crack

C'mon, Hollywood is probably one of the best revenue sources for drug dealers! But of course, life is stressful when you wake up in the morning and have to choose between 150 pairs of shoes, 100 dresses, 75 purses and
50 bow-ties for your puddle, and make sure they all match!

3313.5.2008 0:06

cousinkix, did you just got shot in the ass by a homie or what's up with you, you sound like you're about to blow.me thinks youre crazy ;) and should lighten up a little bit, there's for sure corrupt cops that dont report those crimes, but im sure that if they're so corrupt they commit them themselves, so you should be angry with the law inforcement, not with the illegal aliens, just remember the techniques used by the original settlers, what was the way in the far west? was it because they were plain and simple scum? or do you think the time and place they had to go through had something to do with it?, its the same for poor mojados, they've being screwd since they were born, they wer screwed in mexico and still are in the US, add to that the police not doing their job, what would you expect?

3413.5.2008 12:21

Originally posted by Gradical:
cousinkix, did you just got shot in the ass by a homie or what's up with you, you sound like you're about to blow.me thinks youre crazy ;) and should lighten up a little bit, there's for sure corrupt cops that dont report those crimes, but im sure that if they're so corrupt they commit them themselves, so you should be angry with the law inforcement, not with the illegal aliens, just remember the techniques used by the original settlers, what was the way in the far west? was it because they were plain and simple scum? or do you think the time and place they had to go through had something to do with it?, its the same for poor mojados, they've being screwd since they were born, they wer screwed in mexico and still are in the US, add to that the police not doing their job, what would you expect?

..good point. But our job market is poor thanks to the amount of jobs being taken.just my 2 cents.

3513.5.2008 12:21

Originally posted by Gradical:
cousinkix, did you just got shot in the ass by a homie or what's up with you, you sound like you're about to blow.me thinks youre crazy ;) and should lighten up a little bit, there's for sure corrupt cops that dont report those crimes, but im sure that if they're so corrupt they commit them themselves, so you should be angry with the law inforcement, not with the illegal aliens, just remember the techniques used by the original settlers, what was the way in the far west? was it because they were plain and simple scum? or do you think the time and place they had to go through had something to do with it?, its the same for poor mojados, they've being screwd since they were born, they wer screwed in mexico and still are in the US, add to that the police not doing their job, what would you expect?

..good point. But our job market is poor thanks to the amount of jobs being taken.just my 2 cents.

3613.5.2008 12:35

Originally posted by Gradical:

... But our job market is poor thanks to the amount of jobs being taken.just my 2 cents.
You know that's a load of crap...! The jobs are not being "taken away" they are given away by the big corporations that outsource overseas where they can pollute without enduring any consequences and where they can find cheap labor! Even your taxes are being done somewhere in India!
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3713.5.2008 13:45

Quote:
Originally posted by Gradical:

... But our job market is poor thanks to the amount of jobs being taken.just my 2 cents.
You know that's a load of crap...! The jobs are not being "taken away" they are given away by the big corporations that outsource overseas where they can pollute without enduring any consequences and where they can find cheap labor! Even your taxes are being done somewhere in India!
Provide some proof behind what you are saying so you can have some backing in what you are defending. I just stated my opinion and thats great that you provided some input too. Just sayin..

3913.5.2008 14:02

Originally posted by cyprusrom:
I didn't think that required proof, since is a well known practice:

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobb...ca/content.html

http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/2005/6...p54.htm

good work..

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