Originally posted by morguex:

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"Rational senses"?
If you had any sense at all, you would not be in these forums spouting that garbage you do.
Do me and everyone else at Afterdawn a favour and STAY THE HELL OUT!!!!
But hey if you wanna continue with this crap, i'll post 50 links to websites that prove you wrong.
Peace all

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Me?

I love this and the way its going. By the time it will hit Australia it will be hacked fully and then we can just buy it and then just continue with our old contracts :)

No not you hvygear, that asshat whitechoc,I'm sorry if you thought I meant you.

Peace all

O.k lol, no problem.

The way I see it the only intent of that whitechoc guy was to piss everyone off...and guess what; he succeeded. Here we are wasting our time responding to his worthless babble....right ?

Come on leave the whitechoc man alone. Perhaps he right. mabey he is over 50. and new some great people. Perhaps he's wrong. mabey hes in his 20 like his post Name whitechoc is somthing a 50 year old whouldnt know about. any whoo'

Iphone is a great divice but its the first too. corporet tactics
Sqeez as much money as posible out of this first in its class device before somebody makes a genaric of it. if a generic is made theyed be forced to lower there prices.

Hehe, oh it's already being made.

http://www.openmoko.com

Free your phone!


~Maitland

But it's not in pulic hands. so no price drop yet

Oh and what hardware platform is it compatibale with. never herd of a neo####

yeah, that's true. It's not going to be any immediate threat to the iPhone. I bought a Neo instead of an iPhone, but I'm a nerd. :)

Anyway, it uses a Samsung chip, based on the ARM architecture. It isn't compatible with any existing hardware platform. But, since it's all open source, future platforms will be able to adapt the code base for whatever purpose.



~Maitland

how does the 2.8" screen stack up against the 3.5" iPhone for interoperability with various rendering specs and also user friendliness of such things as the text and dialing digitally (without the stylus)? Does it do landscape (not hard to enable)? Will it run java apps (like OperaMini which does NOT do landscape, unless of course you opt for the very nice hacked version on a russian site)? How's the battery life in real life usage? Have you found an aftermarket battery with greater than 1200mAh (my razrV3 came with 720 mAh stock but I have a 1900 mAh I got from a source in Germany which works great and extends the useful battery life with little calling and heavy internet and email to several days or, at very least, a whole day)? What color did you get (white or orange)? Does it "feel" well made and not like junk from Fisher Price? ...we all wanna know (I spoze)!!

Good questions, all. I just ordered it, and I haven't actually received it yet. Also, the version that is currently available is pre-production; so, I don't really expect that there will be too much stuff working when I get it. I'll letCHA know when I get it. Also, I'll try to implement anything I can (landscape mode, what have ya).

I got the silver/black one. The orange/white was just a little TOO funky for me ;)


~Maitland

the real story of this device will be whether the firmware/hardware execution is comfortable and if it will support the functionality without the horrible menu lags that plague motorola devices and some small screen rendering issues that plague most of the makers as well as the horrible signal capture of nokias (which is why I still have my v3 which, at my desk in a terrible, poorly covered, GSM zone in the Delaware valley area gets 5 bars and GPRS which is faster than my stinkin' dial-up on my desktop). Some older things were just well made, I spoze. After lots of hacking (sadly, not my own, but gotten off great sites) the crippled camera on the v3 (Cingular/ATT disabled video) is fully functional and some improvement in the phonebook, etc. has been possible. What really makes this fone great is a very nice display and, OperaMini, which operates in the advanced form (midp2) on it with aplomb!!

Well, the nice thing about it is that the group of developers will all be users as well. So, if annoying problems like menu lags occur, they will probably be the first things to get fixed.

Sometimes I wonder if some developers ever even use the devices they create at all...


~Maitland

Originally posted by rammstein:

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Are you all really taking that guy seriously ? I was laughing reading his post because I was pretty sure he was being sarcastic. There is no way anyone would say any of that stuff without laughing.

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it was hilarious to read.

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Mr. Moderator your ridiculous check on the freedom of this forum confounds my rational senses; go back to your hole you silly Nerd-Nator.

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Why r u calling names?I guess this is the way you CEOs and CFOs talk to ur employees right?

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As for the rest of this post, I am unsure as how to approach the negativity that I have been confronted with; after all, this is America isn't it? As my good friend John McCain once stated:

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Do not yield. Do not flinch. Stand up. Stand up with our President and fight. We're Americans. We're Americans, and we'll never surrender.

That goes for all of you. This is America; aren't we supposed to be more inviting and forgiving for each other?

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As my good friend Herakleitos said,"A silly man is always entranced with what he says."So,figure this out for urself.Btw,America is not the world and you sound like a chauvinist.

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While all of you ponder that, I should get back to our iPhone talk...people like you are contributing not only to the financial and intellectual decline of America, but to a slide in morals. How do you think network engineer Max Schuler of startup co. Tiller Inc. said when hackers broke into and stole hundreds upon hundreds of customer records, forcing the company out of business. As he once told me in 1991,

Quote:Life is a perpetual battle between good and evil, do-gooders and cheats, white hats and black hats. Unfortunately, my job at Tiller ended with the blackest nightfall possible.

The nightfall not only ended Max's career aspirations, but his life; the stress was too great even for him, a strong-willed man only in his late 20s.

But let's not dwell on the bad; no, instead, lets continue to ruin the aspirations of the white-collar workers across the country that make "civilized life possible for the rest of us," as the noble Mike Rowe put it. If you wish to continue such detriment, I urge you to continue your walk down the forsaken path of devastation and take no heed of people like Mr. Schuler...those of you who do are terrible people.

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Oh yes!!!That's it!How didn't I think about it?Damn,it was not the war in Afganistan,it's not the war in Iraq,it's not the money that The Carlyle Group is making via the United Defense company,it's not the Exxon Mobile and the other oil companies nor Haliburton who make huge profits for their shareholders (aka the goverment also included) and of course not the HMOs that charge huge bills with fake promises of medical care.It's the non-elite of the American society who are a perfect example of unethicality by doing...OMG the cracking of iPhone for choosing another telephone company instead of AT/T which is PEOPLE'S RIGHT.Alas,the American economy will crumble!

OK,multiple choice time:
A)You are probably the most ignorant person in the world.
B)You are joking,right?
C)You make us see like fools by believing what u said.
D)You live in another planet!(I choose that)

Choose wisely.

Finally,of course SONY-BMG incorporation involved in the rootkit scandal perfectly installed the program without the user's consent posing a security risk.Of course,their hacking ability was moral as SONY's server were communicating continuously with the infected machines collecting...information.Generally.Oh,SONY didn't know that and is laying a lawsuit in the creator of MediaMax Copy Protection?R u kidding me?And,I have never heard a story of this Max Schuler and if u ask me it was his company's responsibility to secure those information in an appropriate manner and in an efficient way.I say someone there was "careless".Or maybe many inside the company were "careless".Or else every company's information would leak in no time.Don't you think whitechoc?

P.S.:Forgive my insolence for not using plural.

bravo O_C_FReaK!

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The nightfall not only ended Max's career aspirations, but his life; the stress was too great even for him, a strong-willed man only in his late 20s.

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Who's Max?

When/how did I become an American?

Is this a soap opera?

MHh. Oh i see thats fabulistic its an ARM9E featuring Jazelle DBX technology, well the minimum anyway, bound to lag with that setup what they need is to update/add the MMU&SIMD setup. in all current cell phones devices then you'd see that lag automagicly disapper. that would deffintly increase compatability with open moto as well.

The commercial release of the neo is set to have a faster cpu and an extra graphics co-processor. I think that will be the extent of the parallelism. However, they do have a handful of other devices in the works for the openmoko platform; no specs yet, though.

...but that's all just jibba-jabba.

DXR88, your vocabulary is excellent. May I use "fabulistic" in a sentence sometime? Or do you own the trademark on that one? :)


~Maitland

go ahead.your safe its open source. fabulisticly Astronamicly Amazing(Or so says freedom of speach)

supercaliFABULISTICexpialidocious ...sounds of music from the melifluous voice of julie flowing over the edelweiss fields foley panning to the max !!

Originally posted by bubbah:

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supercaliFABULISTICexpialidocious ...sounds of music from the melifluous voice of julie flowing over the edelweiss fields foley panning to the max !!

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and just think...!! all that visible today on your brand spankin' new iPhone (we're back on topic, eh?)

Exactamundo!! And you don't even need a bloated service contract in order to see it! Happy days are here!


~Maitland

I miss whitechoc :P

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oh whitechoc, lilly whitechoc, snow whitechoc, wherefor art thou??