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Most TV series downloaders are in the UK

18 February 2005 7:08 by James "Dela" Delahunty | 41 comments

Most TV series downloaders are in the UK As Television stations and production companies are quickly realising what they call a new problem with TV piracy, the analysts are rushing to give the world some details on the amount of TV shows that are being pirated around the world on the Internet. According to research, UK internet users illegally download the most TV shows from the net. In some cases with American series, British TV viewers have to wait from weeks to months to see the latest episodes of a certain series.

About 18% of the total downloader’s tracked are from the UK according to Envisional. They also claim that TV show downloading increased by 150% in the last year. About 70% of those downloads were from BitTorrent sites. "It's now as easy to download a pirate TV show as it is to programme a VCR," said Ben Coppin from Envisional. A typical episode of 24 was downloaded by about 100,000 people globally, said the report, and an estimated 20,000 of those were from within the UK.

Personal Video Recorders (PVR) like TiVo boxes and Sky+ are being blamed for helping to set this "new" trend of sharing. One of the most worrying things to TV stations is that the downloads usually come with the advertisements completely cut out. Because of the length difference between full length movies and episodes of tv shows, they can appear online much quicker. The most popular would be HDTV (High Definition TV) downloads which offer very high quality.

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    rotwang (Inactive) 19 February 2005 0:07 Send private message to this user   
    "Most TV series downloaders are in the UK"

    Wrong. The article said nothing of the sort.

    "About 18% of the total downloader’s tracked are from the UK according to Envisional." In other words, 82% are from other places.

    You should have just copied the BBC headline, which is accurate:

    "UK net users leading TV downloads"
    mitch999 (Inactive) 19 February 2005 2:34 Send private message to this user   
    I would like to add my 5cents worth. I used to download movies, but gave up after realising the quality of most leaves a lot to be desired and it takes a long time to convert them to disc to watch on regular tv,i now wait until they are shown on tv and/or will buy dvds, now i only get shows that are from UK and highly unlikekly to be shown in USA. Used to watch Eastenders on BBC America till they pulled the plug, then was watching it on ppv until i moved and got cable (much faster than DSL), if i could get the shows on my cable i would pay them, the technology is available to do this, but advertisers dont want there comercials shown in different markets.
    If the movie and song bussinesses would let people get low quality copies of their product for free then sales would increase?
    pcshateme (Inactive) 19 February 2005 6:24 Send private message to this user   
    downloading tv shows is the same as taping it, which was ruled legal.

    but seriously wheres the beef? i download episodes that i missed or really really liked.

    i doubt anyone actualy downloads entire series, it takes too long and too much hard drive. With all the time to download and convert a whole series, buying it makes alot more sence if you want an entire season/series. But if i just missed last weeks episode of 24 and dont feel like being out of the loop next week (if you've seen 24 you know its easy to get lost if you miss a few episodes), why cant i download it?
    mrchub (Member) 19 February 2005 9:38 Send private message to this user   
    Not necessarily. With a cable connection and not that much hard drive space (by today's standards), you can download an entire season of 24, as approximately 350MB Xvid files, converted from a high def signal, while you sleep. Oh yeah, and the encoder has, of course, removed the commercials for you. Where's the difficulty/inconvenience in that?
    daemonzx6 (Senior Member) 19 February 2005 13:34 Send private message to this user   
    Yeah, I have atleast 5 full series on my 300GB hard drive, but maybe most people don't have 3Mb cable or buy huge drives like me...
    spooky2k (Member) 20 February 2005 5:28 Send private message to this user   
    This is yet another completely ridiculous statement. The only shows i download are shows that i cannot watch here in the UK...hence why i download them.i.e: home movies, aqua teen hunger force, harvey birdman, drawn together, and various other shows.
    It's exactly the same as lending a DVD to a friend, or saving things on your TiVo...if they try sueing for this...alot of people WILL fight back and probably win. Hell, i know i'll fight back.
    Dan x
    Stew45 (Newbie) 20 February 2005 8:40 Send private message to this user   
    The tv shows are broadcast over the "Public Airways" doesn't that mean that anyone can recive it and do with it what thay want?
    Stew45 (Newbie) 20 February 2005 8:40 Send private message to this user   
    The tv shows are broadcast over the "Public Airways" doesn't that mean that anyone can recive it and do with it what thay want?
    mrchub (Member) 20 February 2005 9:35 Send private message to this user   
    Stew, that Ferrari you just saw was on a public street, that doesn't mean YOU can do with it what you want. The airwaves are public, what's broadcast on them is decidedly private. Still, these guys are killing their customers with this petty copyright enforcement.
    westbrom (Member) 20 February 2005 12:39 Send private message to this user   
    makes a change uk been big downloaders... sick of the american laws trying to control everyone and everything,

    boing boing baggies baggies
    mrchub (Member) 20 February 2005 16:31 Send private message to this user   
    westbrom, yeah, you're right. I think it was suprnova (maybe another site, I forget), back before they got shut down, which got essentially a cease and desist letter from the MPAA. Their response was basically, "We are located in Finland, which as you may or may not be aware is not part of the US, thus your laws do not apply..."

    But how is this any different than anything else the US does? You'll either listen to us or get crushed, whether it's business or anything else. (I say this as a decidedly embarassed American, BTW)!
    Letukka (Member) 20 February 2005 17:45 Send private message to this user   
    mrchub (Member) 20 February 2005 19:03 Send private message to this user   
    Letukka, that's the one, good find! :)
    daemonzx6 (Senior Member) 20 February 2005 19:39 Send private message to this user   
    those responses to the threats are hilarious, everybody should read them.
    mrchub (Member) 20 February 2005 20:03 Send private message to this user   
    Hilarious until they got shut down, like almost everybody else :-(
    Letukka (Member) 20 February 2005 22:50 Send private message to this user   
    mrchub: Sorry to break this to you but Piratebay is very alive and kicking :)

    Is it against the rules if I put the URL on this? Well..try google ;)
    westbrom (Member) 21 February 2005 0:53 Send private message to this user   
    sorry to come off this thread just for one moment, when america wants you to sighn up for somthing or go to war, allmost everyone backs them.... now some one in the uk wants everyone to sign up for this help on global warming... everyone yes, AMERICA .. no. why not you have the biggest cars makein the biggest mess. so why should we listen to there laws.. sorry about that you can get back to downloaders in uk now, ta

    boing boing baggies baggies
    mrchub (Member) 21 February 2005 8:35 Send private message to this user   
    IMHO, Westbrom, America often <i>doesn't</i> have support for what it wants to do, though it pretends it does and then does whatever the hell it wants anyway. Look at Iraq. Who besides the Brits went along with that? As for global warming, it's always "whatever works for us," not what works for the world. And when you add on the fact that the prez is a whacked out evangelical Christian, well, my country is screwed. History tells us these things don't last forever...

    Anyway, now let's <i>really</i> get back to the topic ;-)
    sm70 (Newbie) 27 February 2005 1:39 Send private message to this user   
    If UK viewers didn't have to wait 6 months or so it wouldn't be as much of a problem.

    How long has the new Enterprise been out in the USA?

    The UK don't get to see it for over another week yet!
    Mr_Taz_UK (Senior Member) 27 February 2005 2:04 Send private message to this user   
    Its crap anyway....didnt they pull the plug on it..look at this:

    http://www.saveenterprise.com/
    pcshateme (Inactive) 27 February 2005 4:33 Send private message to this user   
    they never should have let upn run it- you guys+ didnt miss anything
    sm70 (Newbie) 27 February 2005 5:46 Send private message to this user   
    Lol, Enterprise was an example of how long UK viewers have to wait for TV shows to be aired.
    helenboa (Newbie) 29 August 2005 8:07 Send private message to this user   
    Hello - I am living in the US and would like to know if there is anywhere I can download "Eastenders"??? Thanks
    mitch999 (Inactive) 29 August 2005 10:05 Send private message to this user   
    Eastenders is available at a members only site , send me a pvt msg so i can send u the link, Craig G
    Lethal_B (Moderator) 2 September 2005 13:18 Send private message to this user   
    yes mitch id love that link tah....i hav pm'd u m8. thx. lol we are up to about episode 8 of 'lost' over here. got the HDTV ones though. all on dvd best quality...am i going to buy it if it comes out?? lol :D

    mitch999 (Inactive) 3 September 2005 5:39 Send private message to this user   
    i would just like to say that after watching a BBC documentory about the internet all this hipe about p2p downloaders being prosecuted may be a mute point as the US government has the ability to close any site it chooses due to the fact thet all .com .org or whatever web addresses are controlled by a central company in California, so think about it, if Hollywood puts enough pressure or money on Congress the sites will close, BIG BROTHER really can control you, Craig G.
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