Does this mean you could copy it in your computer if its the first time it has been played?

well if there's no real extra copy protection than on a normal dvd, in theory... yes! but there probably would be some sort of limiting factor

There also a possibility that this is a complete hoax according to a news item on msfn

http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=14633

Theres no real proof to support the fact that microsoft is attempting to produce these disks, or if the hoax story is ... well.. a hoax :S

another excuse i'm not buying the over priced dvds

It's not bad enough that they've completely mutilated the DVD standard to the point that some discs won't even play anymore. Now they want the discs to simply fry after you use them. What if I missed a part of the movie and want to rewind it? If anything, this will increase piracy tenfold. I can just see people on street corners now, advertising their "permanent DVDs". If they keep making their product less useful, people are just going to stop buying it and turn to other sources.

Didn't Microsoft learn from Disney?

This is definitely a hoax, as other sites have now confirmed. There's nothing to see here, please move along...

this makes no difference really, it will be ripped once (somewhere) maybe a remux and reburn if neccessary, the copies available from permanent sources (hardrives) will always be available as a torrent or a p2p file. So as long as we can see the tracks playing onscreen then it will still be possible to rip them for storage elsewhere. it's when they only offer dvd quality films online as a streaming file that will make life difficult, however bufferrecorder.app might work, or even a dump direct to an external dvd recorder via video cables as a last resort. I can't imagine a time when a backup will not be possible really. Maybe films & tv should be free, funded by the government or private industry for propaganda/advertising purposes?

We could use some of our extrodinary war budget when we've finally stopped spending so much to kill and subjugate each other! Let's suggest this to micro$oft shall we? woohoo!

I didn't see a forum for this and this topic is very close. Is there a site to purchase and download legitimate movies? Perhaps highspeed connection so it takes only minutes?

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i love the idea of spending money and resources on disposable plastic (as in, OIL, a non-renewable resource) instead of doing something like fighting diseases, or stopping the damn wars, or getting famines a bit more under control. god, don't they realize that when one guy as all the money and no one else has any, money has no value? something else will be used to barter with! greed blinds.

gallagher: unless you have a mystical and rare personal connection to the new Internet2, you're not going to get a dvd-quality movie in a few minutes. try a few hours on a fast one. and legal downloads? i don't know of any.

I only ask because there are sites where I download programs that are say 600,000 MB in just a few minutes. So I figured that if there are applications of that size that can be downloaded so fast, then why not movies of just slightly bigger. But I agree, it would take slighly longer if you wnated to download a DVD in entirety of 6 or 7 GB. But movie only or even DivX or some other format would be much smaller, like the 600,000 MB.

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600,000MB = 586 GB. You did not download anything that size in a few minutes. They don't even make internal hard drives with that much capacity (at least at the consumer level). If you get a good download rate with a good broadband connection you can download a DVD (max of around 8.5 GB) in around six and a half hours. Compress that movie down to the size of a CD or two with a good MPEG-4 codec and you can download it in around an hour (assuming a fast connection and source).

Hmm, as I re-read your post I wonder if the ',' in 600,000 was meant as a decimal divider? (If so, disregard my last post. :p But you must admit if it was a decimal divider the three zeroes after it are a little misleading to others who use a period as a decimal point.)

maybe they're referring to the entirety of the downloadable material, which can be accessed in just a few minutes? misleading wording, maybe, but that makes more sense to me.

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Yeah, I am talking about 600 MB or roughly .6 GB as you have it.

My whole question is about the downloads for standard DivX or other formats.

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If they can make disposable dvds at rental prices then we are really ripped off with new movies costing $19.99. The rental companies would seem to not be interested because they would need more inventory, higher rental rates to make up for the extra storage of the movies. Just my thoughts.

The Internet 2 is being developed with the RIAA's help. Don't expect to be able to watch movies you buy more than 3 times on more than 3 computers.

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