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| wolf123 (Member) 7 January 2006 12:32 |
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Just one thing why do you need a modchip and what does it do?
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| spook-1 (Newbie) 7 January 2006 13:26 |
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to MrGrimace's comment, first off, out off al the units of the 360's sold, maybe only about 10% are being bought by people who are "techies" that uses mods...then after that, maybe 5% will become 'modded' by techies for others. the rest of the units are bought by regular folks who only want good games..which wont put microsoft in danger of losing alot on the software end.
modding never hindered the success of the original x-box.
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| wolf123 (Member) 7 January 2006 13:28 |
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What does a modchip do?
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| rihgt682 (Senior Member) 7 January 2006 15:28 |
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They proved this is fake.
@wolf123
Modchip let you play burn games and a lot more.
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| Daggy-G (Member) 7 January 2006 16:18 |
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Actually bro, They didn't proove sh!t :-)
I would put up fake pix too (for security reasons)
ITS COMMING!!
:-)
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| wolf123 (Member) 7 January 2006 19:59 |
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So infact a modchip will let you play illegal burned games is that what your saying
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| rihgt682 (Senior Member) 7 January 2006 21:12 |
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Yes, The site seems to be running. It said they don't take payment for the pre-order. So they might not be fake at all.
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| Ofnir1 (Senior Member) 7 January 2006 22:03 |
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He didn't say illegaly burned games. A modchips basic feature is booting burned games (or backups, as we prefer to say). It may be illegal to make a copy of an original game that we own, but when we have to buy it for the third time, having a modchip can save a lot of time and money.
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| john_jaxs (Inactive) 8 January 2006 2:28 |
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Anyone see this:
http://www.nforce.nl/index.php?switchto=nfos&menu=quicknav&item=viewnfo&id=101028
If this allows them to help hack the box and the code then it would help explain for the earlyness of the modchips, plus with the idea that XBox 360 is not awhole lot different then the Xbox when it comes to backups might help add proof to these claims.
Also as far as I know it is perfectly legal to play backups of games you own.
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| akitchens (Junior Member) 8 January 2006 9:56 |
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@ Ofnir1
You hit that nail right on the head! If I buy it you better bet that I'm backing it up!!
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| Ofnir1 (Senior Member) 8 January 2006 16:44 |
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| Wild9 (Junior Member) 8 January 2006 19:19 |
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In a European store I saw a range of X-box titles for £50 a throw. The same price in 4 stores.
I can see the inevitability of chipping these machines whether Microsoft like it or not.
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| rjw (Newbie) 9 January 2006 12:04 |
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In our house we have 4 old xbox's, (me and three kids) all in different rooms. All are chipped and can be used to "stream" media from a central server in the cellar. They can run copied games( they even rip and do the copying them selves, the xbox's that is)
The only draw back is that you can't go "xbox live".
So we have a 360 premium for that. If someone can chip a 360 AND make it go live then they are onto a winner.....big style.
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| rihgt682 (Senior Member) 9 January 2006 13:06 |
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So how many days till they release this?
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| 074kev (Newbie) 11 January 2006 2:58 |
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What could you do with a mod chip? Can you also customise character skins? Like on DOA 4 for the 360?
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| rihgt682 (Senior Member) 11 January 2006 8:12 |
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| Wild9 (Junior Member) 11 January 2006 9:45 |
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074kev,
A mod-chip is a programmed hardware device with a very small amount of memory. It is installed into a game console to extend its capabilities and flexibility. When the console powers up, the mod-chip is connected electrically so that the console reads the program held inside and takes it from there.
Crucially, a mod-chip assists in playing games from other regions (including changing the TV output mode) as well as playing your own backups: emulators and home-brew games you've written, etc. Normally a console will not allow these functions and there has been very limited success with software alternatives.
People buy mod-chips for several reasons..not simply as inferred to play pirated games. Software can be purchased less-restrictive markets with less censorship, often at a better price. For someone who lives in the UK, they would for instance have access to Japanese-only games, which right from the Nintendo SNES days tend to look better and play faster due to the different TV systems used (NTSC vs PAL).
The likes of Sony and Microsoft don't like people using mod-chips.
Some of the latest console mod-chips also offer extra neat features like cheats and utilities. However to alter games would require specific support in the actual game itself (maybe using a LAN cable), and any alteration of the game would be considered a hack. The mod-chip's primary goal is just to facilitate region freedom and playback of your own backups.
Hope this helps.
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| 074kev (Newbie) 11 January 2006 11:27 |
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Yes, thank you.
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| rjw (Newbie) 11 January 2006 12:24 |
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come of it
forget reasons like region codeing etc
the REAL reason for mod chiping an xbox is so that you can toddle of down to blockbusters, rent a game, take it home, rip it to the hard drive, take the game back and viola you still have the game at home
it plays faster from the hhd
and it cost you 3.75 rental not 39.99 purchase
who cares that the game people lost the sale
they shouldn't charge 40 quid for a disc that cost 40p to make
remember bill gates is THE richest man in the world
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| Wild9 (Junior Member) 11 January 2006 13:12 |
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You're very welcome, 074kev :-)
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| Wild9 (Junior Member) 11 January 2006 13:34 |
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rjw,
I started using mod-chips years ago, mainly to buy Japanese games on older consoles (like the PS1, which I still enjoy playing). The games were cheap compared to what I was being charged in Europe with more choice, and I liked their approach to artwork and storyline.
I agree with what you say about the price of games and that people who are inclined to do so, will always find a way of getting something for as little as possible.
There's been a couple of times where those Blockbuster games wouldn't work in non-chipped machines due to the sheer state of the discs they rent!
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 12 January 2006 20:07 |
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I doubt the infinity mod post is a hoax. Anybody who is familar with their PS2 chips knows they are high quality and not in the habit of promoting BS. I have a Matrix Infinity in my v4 PS2 and it's top of the line. I've never seen a complaint about a legit Matrix chip. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the MI team is the first to crack the X box 360 code and get a working chip. As far as "acquiring" games, I have to agree with the previous post. I'm a full time Student and do not have the dinero to throw down $50 per game. I frequent the local BlockBuster, and the state of some their games is quite appalling. People just don't take care of anything anymore. Peace.
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| dicknavis (Newbie) 15 January 2006 10:55 |
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I for one hope that this chip isn't a hoax, I mod xbox's for a living as i'm a student living in the dorms and i don't need a "real" job b/c the xboxs and some computer work keeps me in business. I have expreienced ppl wanting the mod for a variety of resons, one i just did even went in the back of his car and is integrated into his A/V system, it looks pretty pimp...and that's the great thing about what the mod scene did to the xbox, it rounded up all these ppl that can't stand to have anything that is "stock" and gave them a relatively inexpensive way to "tune up" their xbox. Load times are off the wall on a modded box, in game reset, every game made for every console of all time(except ps2) is available thru emulation, and the xbox media center is pure genius thru its interconnectivity with a home pc or on a network. I don't know how regularly you guys check xboxscene.com, but a couple years back they had an article about microsoft actually conducting a poll/survey to customers about modded xboxs, the result was that more ppl buy xboxs because they know they can mod them, ppl still buy games that they love and in all reality only around 1% of all xboxs that exist on the planet are modded. Microsoft has realized that the mod scene doesn't hurt them at all, it puts them so far ahead of the competition because they have this awesome system that you can customize in every way. I have already torn my console apart once to paint it, add a window and some lights, and change the color of led's and such, I have even added a much bigger hard drive, and grounded the fans so they run at full speed to keep the machine cooler. Bottom line is that there is always going to be this drive for ppl to make their xbox better and different from every xbox on the market. I just hope that this xbox will be as amazing as the last one in terms of flexibility and relative performance.
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| bluejet (Senior Member) 15 January 2006 13:30 |
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This isn't good at all for the people who develope xbox 360 games. Lol what a joke. Microsoft said they worked on preventing piracy for over 2 years for the 360 and theres a modchip coming out already??? LOL
Version 1 scph 30001 ps2.
80 gb hard drive
free hd loader
Version 10 scph 50001 ps2
80 gb hard drive
free hd loader
version 12 slim ps2
psp version 2.1 (dammit)
Waiting for a downgrader
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 15 January 2006 13:48 |
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That's an interesting point Nick. I've been told by modders that the X Box is a lot easier to mod than a PS2. Same goes for the Game Cube. Apparently the mobo design of the PS2 is not very mod friendly. I'd guess that a similar percentage of PS2's have been modded. Once you own a modded system, there is no going back. C'mom Matrix and DMS, get cracking on the PS3 lol. Cheers!
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| Tokijin (AfterDawn Addict) 17 January 2006 21:02 |
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