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PS3 to ship with PS2 chipset for backwards compatibility

5 June 2006 14:11 by Ben "Lethal_B" Reid | 99 comments

PS3 to ship with PS2 chipset for backwards compatibility Japanese magazine Ultra One has revealed that Sony plan to include the Playstation 2 chipset with each of their up and coming Playstation 3 consoles - at least until a proper PS2 emulator is developed.

When Sony initially announced the PlayStation 3's backwards compatibility with both the PS2 and PSone, the indication was given that the it would be provided through emulation. But this new report in the Japanese technology magazine Ultra One (partially translated by IGN) suggests that PS2 emulation is actually achieved through physical hardware, and not emulation.

The PS3 hardware is currently designed to include the PS2 chipset, (the Emotion Engine CPU and Graphic Synthesizer combo chip that is found in the slim model PS2), according to the magazine. With the PS3 already being expensive to manufacture, the inclusion of another chipset can only increase costs. In the same breath, however, the report goes on to say that Sony intends to remove the PS2 chipset from the PS3 once work on an efficient PS2 emulator is completed by its engineers.

Izumi Kawanishi, head of Sony's Software Platform Development Division, told the Ultra One that the PS3 as announced is, "nothing more than just the basic system." It is possible that Sony may release models with even larger hard disks/upgraded network features, but the CPU clock speed and memory specs will not change, as all PS3s must run the same games. The PS3 is also equipped with a "large amount of flash memory," which will be used to house the operating system and all future system updates.

Additionally, "it seems that the hard disk is to be used exclusively for multimedia content and will not contain any system features; users will, after all, be able to swap the built in hard drive out with any standard drive they pick up at a computer hardware store," according to the IGN translation.

Sony went on to assure the magazine that all PS3 models will forever be compatible with every PS3 game. Back when Sony introduced newer PS2 hardware, the new models were incompatible with some of the older software. However, this won't be the case with the PS3, as the console will have the ability to download patches.

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    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 12:22 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris
    the reason its cheaper is becuse of price rigging and puting soem fo the burdan on software sales,I wouldnt cann them cheap and the Cell CPU while amazeing is not "normal" thus will be a pain to run windose and if it cant run XP theres not point in calling it a computer Linux is great in all but XP smahs's it to death with tis compalibty on hardware and software.

    the Ps3 is a mosnter and I cant wiat to see how it fares!


    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 12:25 Send private message to this user   
    Oh I've no doubt its powerful, but in a different league. PS3 games run nothing like Windows games so it's not easy to say. Heh, if you removed all the chains from running games in windows for PCs you'd get a lot more for your money with CPUs and GPUs in gaming too!
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 12:40 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris
    ture ture ,XP is a monster and takes power to run anythign else is "extra" its a shame no one has gone back and mae a simple GUI or soemthing for games to boot from like the older DOS stuff,but even then dos was a OS and it had its limits.

    And now adays games on the PC rely to heavly on XP or M$ new mosnter OS to run...blah

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13 June 2006 12:51

    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 13:45 Send private message to this user   
    XP a monster? wait until vista. 2GB of RAM recommended?
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 14:02 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris
    it is a mosnter it cant run all my PC games,and SP2 is fickle and screwed with my hardware and software and drivers ><
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 14:06 Send private message to this user   
    Whilst the latter is true, a PC is only as good as its hardware...
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 14:17 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris
    youve had troubles with SP2 as well? its so bad I reufse to touch it and MS has desided to drop Sp1 suppoort and havieng a full SP2 upgrade or nothign choice ;_;
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 14:20 Send private message to this user   
    Meh, no biggies, my friends have suffered worst, because they bought it. I suffered the OEM system "no CD included" problem so got a copy of XP after my first reformat. I get told off by M$ abt it every so often.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 14:28 Send private message to this user   
    sammorris
    I realy wish they wuld break SP2 into smaller parts so I cna skiip the boardband limits (I tried patchign it dose notwork) and drvier mmmm "protections" it feels liek they are forceing you to buy new hardware ><
    HALTRON (Member) 13 June 2006 23:06 Send private message to this user   
    @ZippyDSM

    When you say they place broadband limits, are you talking about the number of connections the windows firewall will allow you to connect to? Just disable windows security centre in administrative tools.

    @ALL

    DirectX 10 is gonna be vista only and vista being a massive resource hog means your gonna need serious power. I see AMD are releasing 4 core cpu's for servers late next year, with the desktop models to follow early 2008, each supporting DDR3. This sounds more like real next gen power.

    http://www.reghardware.com/2006/05/03/amd_quad-core_roadmap/

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13 June 2006 23:08

    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 13 June 2006 23:50 Send private message to this user   
    There's this fantastic website that allows you to download all the windows updates in .exe format if that;s any better for you, I've got it bookmarked on my home PC, so I'll give you the link if you' reinterested. Sounds to me like they're programming DX10 to be 64-bit only, to make sure you need Vista to run it. Even though my GPU then won't be DX10 ready, I'm confident it'll be able to play most of the new games that come flying at it.

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    HALTRON (Member) 15 June 2006 23:43 Send private message to this user   
    I believe that DX10 is available also in the 32bit version of vista, so don't think it's 64bit only. I would be interested in the link however.
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 16 June 2006 1:37 Send private message to this user   
    I would have thought if it works in Vista x86, it would work in XP...
    HALTRON (Member) 16 June 2006 2:09 Send private message to this user   
    Windows XP is a continuation of Windows NT Technology which in itself was a departure from the old DOS based versions of Windows (98, millenium, etc). Vista is a whole new OS build from the ground up (hence why it's taken over 5 years to produce). I'm not sure why DX10 won't work with XP, whether it be becuase of technological incompatibilies or if M$ wants another excuse to force people to upgrade. But i do know that it's nothing to do with either 32 or 64 bit computing.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 16 June 2006 18:25 Send private message to this user   
    HALTRON
    I have tried that and it never worked I ahve tried it 3 times with 3 diffrent version'sthe limits were still there with that said the software and ahrdware oddiest remain.

    sammorris
    Dont be greddy share the link :3


    You guys are right if they made DX10 for the basic Vista then it shouldnt take much for the mod/hack/ect groups to bring it over to XP.
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 17 June 2006 0:11 Send private message to this user   
    Yeah sorry mate, I've been having difficulty finding it.

    Here we are:

    http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/

    HALTRON (Member) 17 June 2006 0:11 Send private message to this user   
    ZipyDSM:

    I run XP SP2 with broadband and i have to say that i am not limited by SP2 at all. In fact this is the first i've heard of this problem. I know that there is a crack for the windows firewall (assuming peoople wanted to keep it active), but it's, i find best just to deactivate the firewall all together. Apart from this i can't think of why SP2 is limiting your speed.

    This is better talked on a different forum.

    @ALL
    Read the link:http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30451

    Just though you's might ne interested.
    howy_2005 (Junior Member) 20 June 2006 0:39 Send private message to this user   
    folks....we've strayed from the post's topic...



    good conversation and all.....but let's start a new thread for it, don't you think?



    i know i'm a newbie and all...but seriously, stick with the post topic, that way folks looking for this kinda stuff can find it under a post rather than stumble ypon it through another topic.....






    after all, that's what they're for.....
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2006 0:56 Send private message to this user   
    Yeah, as a news article though, they always stagnate, and since your post is 3 days after the last, it may be better to just move on. Not much more to say unless anyone thinks of something!

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    howy_2005 (Junior Member) 20 June 2006 4:42 Send private message to this user   
    exactly....
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 20 June 2006 7:13 Send private message to this user   
    HALTRON
    try useing Edonkey I know its not great and all but the effect hits it the most(50-80%),it dose at least a 10-30% hit to BT,it was rathering annoying at the time 60 a month for cable net and anyhtign that effects speed is a no no *L*
    mabye they have tweaked it over the last time I used it.
    The lasty tiem I tried SP2 was last year sometiem when I had cable net,I am on dailup now(moved and no choice of other).

    THe limit to open connections is what is 90% of the problems and I tried all the fixs and they didnt do anything(yes the fixs said they installed ok and such).

    I have a brain...I think......

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    HALTRON (Member) 21 June 2006 0:01 Send private message to this user   
    What you have to remember about the Edonkey network is that you really need a static ip address to use it, did you have a static ip address when on cable using SP2? At this time what other apps where you using and did they work better? Whilst on cable did you go back to SP1 and use EDonkey? Did this work better?
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 21 June 2006 2:31 Send private message to this user   
    Eh? A static IP? I now have a static IP and notice no difference in performance compared to when I had a dynamic one, and I even have a highID (because I'm not using a router! ;-) )

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    lxhotboy (Member) 21 June 2006 2:37 Send private message to this user   
    I dont even know when the last time the topic was touched on. And the bad part is that a lot of the people posting have been here long enough to know better. Open a new thread please. Thanks.
    sammorris (AfterDawn Addict) 21 June 2006 2:43 Send private message to this user   
    Does it really matter? This has moved off the news page now.

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