@rob1026, now who's complaining? Don't have the money so f*ck them?
@djscoop, I hope blueray does fair better than minidisc, and betamax. It will as long as sony isn't too restrictive with licensing "their" format.

I said it once I'll say it twice. When it comes to electronics, price really is everything. And just for consumers either, but for those who supply the resources and factories. When the public does become aware of the new formats, with exception of super rich, most will probably go for the HD-DVD player which is 2 and 5 hundred dollars cheaper than their competitor. Yeah the HD library is dwindeling at this point in time, but looking towards the future there's one big partner to HD which pretty much is the nail in the coffin, and that's Universal. Don't lie to yourself. I'd be willing to bet 4 outa every five movies you saw the last 5 years were probably universal. Me myself, I'm a huge Spielberg fan and he's synonymous with Universal as well as Dreamworks. From what i know you wont see any of these movies on Bluray and that poses a big problem. Cheaper price and Universal( as well as Microsoft), that pretty much spells lights out for Bluray.

PS- It's Sony. Check the track record.

Sony has learned their lesson, this time they don't introduce a new format on their own, they have a huge backing from other manufacturers like Samsung, Philips, Panasonic, Sharp etc, pretty much all the major players are onboard, and prices will come down, only early adopters pay 1000$ for a standalone player and noone will after the ps3 begins shipping, nah I'd say it's 70-30 in Bluerays favor.

Besides in two years time only licensing costs will stop hardwaremanufacturers to produce players playing both formats.

Wonder how much the Blu-ray player will actually cost and how much the Blu-ray discs/movies will cost?

too much

there isnt really much differnce between the two apart from the capacity and price
blue ray players are far more expensive, but i feel after the launch of the PS3 - sales will pick up.

i neither agree nor disagree on the copyright front.

if you like it buy it
if not do what the hell you like - half the movies nowadays arnt worth the disks there burnt on!
and if on the rare occasion something good comes out (brokeback mountain for instance)
i watched it at the cinema - i paid my £6
im not going to watch it again, but i have it on dvd, its not an original.

Guys Im sorry to ask but what is really great about Blu-ray?or HD-DVD what do they do? do they just look better and thats it. Just wondering

Do not buy a bluray or hddvd player you have to have it hooked up to the internet so that it can varify the encryption that is on the disk if it is a copied dvd uh oh the feds will be at your door. STICK WITH DVD.

Xenon24

The two high definition formats have the capacity to "look better" if the content is encoded at the higher resolutions. There is no guarantee that video content on a hi-def format disc it is actually higher definition than a standaed DVD. IMHO the biggest reason the studios are pushing the hi-def format(s!) is they can force the use of a new DRM scam, er... I mean scheme.

"(brokeback mountain for instance)
i watched it at the cinema"-

how ironic, a Universal Pictures production. AKA Universal not backing bluray.

"Do not buy a bluray or hddvd player you have to have it hooked up to the internet so that it can varify the encryption that is on the disk if it is a copied dvd uh oh the feds will be at your door. STICK WITH DVD."-

considering there is no provision for this on the cheaper HD-DVD model from Toshiba, i doubt it.

I shall not purchase either format. This is just another way of Big Brother controlling what we can & can't BACK-UP. No Thanks!

I don't think that either will become popular for a very long time.

And in the end you will just be able to buy a drive/player that supports both so it won't really matter.

But anyway...all the stupid protection will be bypassed eventually in one way or another...so all in all...nothing will matter in the end :)

There is no way I'm paying 1,000 dollars for one of these players. Its just another mony making scheme from Sony to take your money. Heck, if you wait til November, the Playstation 3 will have Blu-ray built in and only cost $500 to $600 dollars.

Plus Blu-ray discs start from $30 to $40 dollars depending on the title.

I'm happy right now with my Samsung Up-Converted HD DVD player. I cant see wasting $500 for HD-DVD or $1000 for Blu-ray. I hope they make a player where it will accept HD-DVD and Blu-ray together. But, Sony is being hard asses about it.

Unlike the DVD type format wars (-/+) this Format war is goign to take time to becuse soemthign worth fooling with theres jsut to many thigns going on to paly 500+ into it....

I hope both formats sunken in water forever.

One format to rule them all 0-o

I think everyone here can agree that you should never buy the first of anything. Wait until the bugs get kinked out and they realize that nothing will sell at the prices they are offering. Lets wait atleast 6 months, then lets take this seriously.

As for the copyright issues. Someone makes it, someone brakes it. Its the cycle. Nothing will be impossible to backup.

madman91
*nods nods*
unless the PS3 is made of soild gold I aint a touching it :P

I'm thiking that if this Blu-ray format hits it big we'll have to buy and copy all our dvds over again? When the PS3 comes out I can't play a normal dvd in it can I? Sonys had a few formats that haven't really made it big before like the mini-disks and UMDs.

Lloyd510
N more like some movies will have reelases on BR sicne BR can still paly DVD theres no need to worry about a compelte convertion.

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yes the ps3 will support ur media


CD
PlayStation CD-ROM
PlayStation2 CD-ROM
CD-DA
CD-DA (ROM),
CD-R,
CD-RW
SACD Hybrid (CD layer),
SACD HD
DualDisc (audio side)
DualDisc (DVD side)
PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM
PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM
DVD-ROM
DVD-R
DVD-RW
DVD+R,
DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc
PlayStation 3 BD-ROM
BD-ROM
BD

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killa711
Dont get ahead of yourself he was talkign about BR in genreal :P

and their are no BR PS3 games planed yet :P

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well i was just listing the formats ps3 will play...

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I think that Sony will overcome HD-DVD because everyone will be buying a Ps3 in November regardless of the price

whale1
thats a good point,the PS3 dose have the advantage its a cheap by 200-500$ BR palyer and thus is going to sell however whos going to buy it more the home threater nerds or the gameing nerds we dont know we also dont know if it will sale much at all..I almost dont want it to sell becuse the damn thign is so messed up....