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| halfhere (Member) 29 September 2006 8:00 |
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this is gotten to be really out of control, anything to make more money, and they say the world doesn't revolve around money. HA
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| klassic (Member) 29 September 2006 13:16 |
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If Apple did obtain a copyright for the word "pod" it would not be for all instances of that word. For instance it would not affect your local grocery store selling pea pods. It would be copyrighted in the limited scope of digital media streaming, downloads and players. Your PODiatrist(sp?) would be ok.
M$ can not sue Home Depot for selling Windows. Its copyright is limited to software and possibly even more limiting specifically to operating systems.
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| Speedy16 (Junior Member) 29 September 2006 14:04 |
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Personall I think that apple is sueing over the wrong part of iPOD. Who cares about the POD, plus it is already a word, as mentioned. They should sue over the miss use of "i". Ex. imesh, iphoto, ifuckinghate this etc. Personally I cant stand how many things adapted the use of the "i" after Apple "i"PODS swept the nation. Apple you and gate are "two peas in a 'POD'"
Peace
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| funkintel (Newbie) 29 September 2006 16:38 |
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i have no opinion about the legitimacy of apple's copyright claims, i'm no legal expert.
what i do think is that these latest moves by Apple are in fact maladaptive behaviors. Apple should be tickled pink that they have complete control over the 'pod industry'. if everyone uses the word ipod, podcast, podstream, etc., it's like infinite advertising and promotion of Apple's idea (copyrighted or not).
If I came up with a new name for something (copyrightable or not) and tons of people started to use my new idea's name for their stuff, it would be like it became MY stuff!
Its like Apple invented a new word, and now they are mad that everyone likes the new word and is using it!
(Steve Jobs should wise up)
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| TekPete (Newbie) 29 September 2006 16:54 |
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I wonder if Hoover will sue those who use their name inappropriatly? ie "I'm just going to hoover the carpet.....Oops I don't own a Hoover, it's a Dyson or Electolux.....Guess I'd better get me a solicitor!!!!"
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| klassic (Member) 29 September 2006 17:27 |
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I don't think Hoover is a very good example. However...
Who goes to the store to buy facial tissue and cotton swabs?? Most people go to buy Kleenex and Q-tips. Two brands that became household names and then lost their identity. Apple does not want pod to become used so much by others that it loses its brand identity.
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| Ghostdog (Senior Member) 30 September 2006 5:47 |
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How can you trademark an everyday word?
What next, the band P.O.D. gets sued because people might start to associate them with iPods?
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| spbt (Inactive) 30 September 2006 6:19 |
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If any company invents a word not in the dictionary, then they could claim it as their own. What next suing websters for having a definition of it? All these lawyers and judges passing these laws and having them enforced should be sued for every word they ever uttered. All procceds going to the human race to which these parasites don't belong to.
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| spbt (Inactive) 30 September 2006 6:59 |
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Hey the first company that decides to trademark the word "Like" would pass a law requiring RFID tags to automatically collect royalties everytime a teen uses the word. All us parents would have to pay up till they turn 18. Hell this firm could bankrupt the entire globe.
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| rickster9 (Junior Member) 30 September 2006 12:53 |
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Isn't one of the reasons the Ipod has stayed so popular is because the the third party circus that has developed around the ipod?
Sure...guess someone at Apple has finally looked at the money being made by others and decided that they need to stop it (well....have them fill their pockets instead).
Why change the formula that has worked to make the MAC the market-share king? lmao
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 30 September 2006 13:00 |
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rickster9
1.mindless IP protection,we have to stop others from using the name because its violates our charter be the name dick,windows or pod.
2.OMG they said our name they owe us money!
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| ji63 (Junior Member) 1 October 2006 1:07 |
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It's so sad when nothing is enough. What is Apple Computer Inc. going to do? Buy Line 6? They have already registered the word "Pod". "As early as October 2001" - what a pathetic statement from Apple. Line 6 has been in business long before Apple discovered the letter "i".
http://www.line6.com/products/pods/
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 1 October 2006 1:57 |
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ji63
ou fai to understand the nuances of how copy rights work,whoever has the msot money will have the most clout dose that eman auto win no but its a win rate of 90%
Unless you are wiling to stand up and survive until the court can decide whats right.
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| ji63 (Junior Member) 1 October 2006 2:35 |
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| uchman77 (Inactive) 1 October 2006 7:07 |
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argh.........
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1 October 2006 13:38
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| uchman77 (Inactive) 1 October 2006 7:12 |
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argh.........................
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 1 October 2006 13:38
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 1 October 2006 8:34 |
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I smell a ban a comeing 0_o
ji63
CP and P laws need to be made reasonable I love the whole cant preform in public thing witch is not enforced yet but once it is anyone that talks about the movie is liable in one way or another to the corporation,to me the government has 2 jobs 1 get life stable for the common man and 2 make sure the corporation, dose not rape said common man.....
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| Ghostdog (Senior Member) 1 October 2006 10:41 |
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And the spammer can´t even spell : D
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| Pop_Smith (Senior Member) 1 October 2006 13:35 |
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The reason for the spam misspelling is because its done with an automated program that registers at as many sites it can on the web. It then clicks the "activation" link if needed and then logs in an in the first place it can (sometimes in more then one place) the program posts its spam in hopes of getting a sucker or two to pay up. Of course, you won't get anything and your credit card will have other charges that you didn't authorize because the spammer sells your ID to other spammers/hackers.
Back on topic, I wonder if Apple will get the "Pod" tm with Line 6 having it Copyrighted (which I believe is more powerful then trademarks) but, as ZIppyDSM said for the most part in America whoever has the most money wins even if they legally should not.
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| creaky (Moderator) 1 October 2006 13:40 |
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pointless idiotic spam removed
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| rickster9 (Junior Member) 1 October 2006 14:17 |
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Actually, when it comes to trademarks, the big money hasn't faired well on a percentage basis.
Disney has lost who knows how many suits now....Apple has lost a bunch too...including their suit against MAC ..the cosmetic company. Courts are finally deciding to use some common sense and asking themselves whether there is any damage or potential damage caused by the use of a portion of a trademark.
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| ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 1 October 2006 14:30 |
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rickster9
it dosent stp the from hammering a another company into the ground,I hate sony for it it did to bleem.a paid emulator that dosen't use CP'd stuff can incress game sales.....doh!
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| mystic (Member) 2 October 2006 5:43 |
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it sounds not only is apple scared of resent avents in manufacturing in countries like korea and others but they havent adressed the issue over the cost.. with the availblity of 4 gb portable media players(pmp) under the 75.00 mark why are people still buying the ipods with 1gb for 200.00 sad if apple wants to make right by adding free down loads then they might stay on top but now microsoft has entered the game theres going to be a price war if people just hold off from buying for a short while... its so sad when the newest gimic is ipod ready shoes or my favorite the Ipod tolit paper dispencer called the Ipoddie whats the world coming to when people need to jack in to the tolit to give a crap?
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| KrazyKarl (Newbie) 2 October 2006 20:20 |
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...um, does this mean God gets to sue Apple for their use of the fruit of temptation? Ooo! I hope he wins!
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 3 October 2006 9:29 |
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We need to get rid of lawyers they just hose everything up when you can sue because your stupid and win there is something very wrong i.e., The women who spilled HOT COFFEE on herself while driving. What ever happened to common sense.
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| Skyzyx (Newbie) 14 November 2006 20:00 |
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It's not about money, and it's not about copyrights. It's about trademarks and trademark law. A company can lose its trademarks to a word or name (including product and company names) if it becomes a regular part of language. Like Xerox (verb for making copies), Kleenex (the thing you blow your nose in), Rollerblades (the skates with the inline wheels)... even Google's trademark is in trouble (the act of searching online).
Apple needs to take action (cease and desist -- not suing) to stop the loss of their perfectly valid trademarks. That's just how it all works.
Kevin Rose from Digg.com recently had to say the same thing to get people to stop using 'Digg' in their website names due to fear of trademark loss. It sucks, I agree. But that's what companies MUST do to keep their trademarks.
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