KIll the spammer!!!!!! would anyone actully buy from them if we allow them to spam. um NO so stop spamming.

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I agree, who the hell would be stupid enough to buy from them? it really is a waste of time spamming other sites. This guy has been around a while i really reckon there should be another mod for the timezone of the last 10hrs or so.
Format war wont really affect me, im getting a PS3 with BD playback which is a plus but wont be likely to get any BD movies till the price drops to near DVD and i get an HDTV which will be a long time. As i will already have a nextgen player (in PS3) it wouldnt be worth it to get HD-DVD as well, this is probably what Sony is hoping for the PS3 release to do.

first pointless spammer of the day got a boot up the backside, the thread can now continue

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thanks creaky, loving that edit. Gotta be the first spammer that ive seen in a while, is it just me or is the site as a whole on the improve again, still not how it used to be but getting there specially the console forums have improved incredibly since the no BS rule was put into play.

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"theatre quality audio" so that means all through the movie you'll have *removed* talking really loud and checking thier cell phones every five minutes, while babies are screaming and 15 year old kids are laughing at nothing thats funny?

Yeah, sign me up for that "theater" sound

racist poster (in a news item no less) removed from site

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so they finaly got Dual layer BR discs to be stable?

Quote:

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Blu-ray's first dual-layer BD-50 discs have an increased 50GB storage capacity, allowing them to to deliver increased bonus features and interactivity.

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Ok, let's be honest.. does anyone really WATCH the bonus features/interactivity or do you just watch the proper film..?

-Mike

Mik3h
I watch the previews sometimes but mostly now,and my grandmother and her sis cant work a dvd because of the damn menu systems its quite annoying

Mik3h
I watch the previews sometimes but mostly now,and my grandmother and her sis cant work a dvd because of the damn menu systems its quite annoying

Thank you Mik3h. Who ever watch those boring bonus features/interactivity seriouly need to get a life. Even though that's your faviorte movie you NEVER should watch bonus features.

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The news item forgot to mention the best use for the increased disc space: higher bitrates for MPEG2 encoded movies resulting in improved picture quality. This was the major complaint against early BD releases and it is thought that BD50 discs would solve this problem.

dblbogey7
as long as they fixed that odd issue with dual layer discs h well if there are any problems we wil know fro the high rate of returns 0-o *L*

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Click is available at stores for $25, I dont see that as that great a difference compared $20, especially if you have already invested your money in a blu ray player. I think Blu-ray has jumped way ahead as far as availablity of Blu-ray dvds. I say that because I was at my local Fry's and they had the new media dvds on the same shelves...Four Shelves of Blue ray, one of HD. I could not care less about which wins the "Format War", but for all the people here who say "who needs more interactivity and special features" obviously, it's worth the cost if all of these companies who support "Blu-ray and HD-DVD" have invested so much money, there must be a significant amount of demand. Personally, I would have been more than happy to just stick with regular Dvd's. Shoot why didn't they create a triple layer dvd and just do it like that, but oh well...

HAHA!, okay so you have your PS3 @ $500, now to get that sound you have to have a NEW reciver with the right inputs & a NEW TV with the right inputs for it ALL to be in "hi Def" or it will revert to "DVD Quality" settings if just 1 component isnt HDMI Device! Did they tell you that?!

No they didnt tell us that, coz its not true. (unless you can backup that info) IF you dont have an HDTV you cant view much over DVD quality anyway.
You'll be thinking of HDCP which wont be out for until like 2012 and by then everyone would have HDTV.

well:
"Digital rights management

Blu-ray Disc has an experimental digital rights management (DRM) feature called BD+ which allows for dynamically changing keys for the cryptographic protections involved. Should the keys currently in use be "cracked" or leaked, manufacturers can update them and build them into all subsequent discs, preventing a single key discovery from permanently breaking the entire scheme. Blu-ray Disc also mandates a Mandatory Managed Copy system, which allows users to copy content a limited number of times, but requiring registration with the content provider to acquire the keys needed; this feature was originally requested by HP[13] . The lack of a dynamic encryption model is what has made DeCSS a disaster from the industry's perspective: once CSS was cracked, all DVDs from then on were open to unauthorized decryption (commonly known as "ripping"). However this controversial technology, together with Self-Protecting Digital Content (SPDC), can allow players judged "bad" to be effectively disabled.[14] preventing their use by their purchaser or subsequent owners.[15] See Advanced Access Content System (AACS).

The Blu-ray Disc Association also agreed to add a form of digital watermarking technology to the discs. Under the name "ROM-Mark", this technology will be built into all ROM-producing devices, and requires a specially licensed piece of hardware to insert the ROM-mark into the media during replication. All Blu-ray Disc playback devices must check for the mark. Through licensing of the special hardware element, the BDA believes that it can eliminate the possibility of mass producing BD-ROMs without authorization.

In addition, Blu-ray Disc players must follow AACS guidelines pertaining to outputs over non-encrypted interfaces. This is set by a flag called the Image Constraint Token (ICT), which would restrict the output-resolution without HDCP to 960×540. The decision to set the flag to restrict output ("down-convert") is left up to the content provider. According to CED Magazine, Sony/MGM and Disney currently have no plans to down-convert, and Fox is opposed to it as well. Warner Pictures is a proponent of the ICT, and it is expected that Paramount will also implement it.[16] Other studios releasing Blu-ray Disc content have not yet commented on whether or not they will use down-conversion. AACS guidelines require that any title that implements the ICT must clearly state so on the packaging."
take a look!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

ripxrush
and some china like manufacturers will skip the mark system to save money *L*

Also the whole HDMI DRM setup uses a simauiler key system hollywood demeaned it so they can annoying people with stupid protection schemes again.

Now that BR has stable dual layer discs BR and HD DVD are kinda runing neck and neck now.

well i what i was talkign about was HDCP i did have toe wrong format, but just take a look @ this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Bandwidth_Digital_Content_Protection

*L*
dont mix HDCP with BR DRM they are different, HD DVD has its own protectin system as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#Digital_Rights_Management


In anycase the HDCP is the one to worry about.

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Remember what happened to the BETA format video tape?

yeah

Beta max was a format sony wholey ownd and tried to force it on the industry....BR is completely different as it is a normal format with industry support.

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I still don't like Blu-ray. Hope it's other beta. only time will tell

rihgt682
In the long run the only real thing BR has over HD is a possible 100GB capacity on 1 disc...that alone holds my interest.

Everything else is just corporate magic tricks to distract from you the real issues.

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Who ever watch those boring bonus features/interactivity seriouly need to get a life. Even though that's your faviorte movie you NEVER should watch bonus features.

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What a stupid thing to say, I often watch the extra's, the film stunts are often eplained in the extra's. Also deleted scenes and alternate endings make interesting viewing.