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| tefarko (Junior Member) 11 January 2007 7:45 |
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US patent laws are a joke... btw, I just applied to patent number 7.754.426, "Method for Replying to Dumb Patent Suits", which, in simple words says "close your hand, choice of right or left, finger tips pressed against palm, extend middle finger and show hand to the lawyers who filed the suit"... I´ll get rich...
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| solarf (Member) 11 January 2007 7:46 |
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Come on this is just going too far. Fenner is just trying to find more ways to make fast money and hurt the consumer.
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| cleverick (Newbie) 11 January 2007 8:00 |
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Fenner Investments is a joke and bring a bad name to texas. if Fenner Investments can sue for something this stupid, then im gonna sue cd manufactures because i invented the cd.
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| PocketQs (Newbie) 11 January 2007 9:00 |
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for every time I pressed a button on my 360 controller, I infringed on copyrights?! ok, so every movie I ever paid to see at the movie theatre, I should get to own it right? I paid 8 bucks to see it, so why can't I download it? But i will get hit with the lawsuits and crap, this guy just makes crap up. I love cheese, so I thought why not make it so you can have it anywhere? i'm suing Kraft for my idea of Easy Cheese
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| T4spartan (Member) 11 January 2007 9:23 |
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this is ridiculous, this just goes to show how desperate some companies get to make some money. You know what, Im going to make an invention of my own, itll be a metal box with a spining plate inside that you can use to warm up food... Ill call it a microwave.
Peace Out!
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| handsom (Senior Member) 11 January 2007 9:45 |
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Does anyone else recall the 'turtle beach' suit a while back? They went after the big three over rumble tech. Nintendo paid them off, M$ paid them off, and bought most of their shares, and Sony decided to actually go to court, which had their PS2's in and out of production for nearly two years.
It's just plain stupid that these things go on; but frankly, it's not worth it for the big corporations to fight it. It's better for them, as shown by Sony, when they settle these things, and get them out of the way.
But hey, maybe Sony will fight this in court too; then maybe they'd finally go under. Given their recent track record over the last year, that wouldn't surprise me a bit.
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| Vdizzle (Newbie) 11 January 2007 9:46 |
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This is the best news for Fenner. Now after they win this lawsuit, they can sue the company who produced the "Remote Control". I mean how many times have people violated their patient everytime they changed the channel on their tv, or how about opening the garage door. What about the very old nintendo controller that looked like a triangle from the NES days? Will they sue that too? Then they need to sue the wireless mouse and wireless keyboard, god only knows how many gamers use those.
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| handsom (Senior Member) 11 January 2007 10:32 |
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lol; there are a lot of companies just sitting on huge patents like that. In most cases, they didn't really invent said thing; but nobody questioned the patent when they got it, so it's legal. Which seems like a more than slightly flawed system, but what can you do?
The amusing thing though; big industry companies like M$, the Big N and $ony have large policies to protect them from things like this. My curiosity is, when they get sued, do they pay out, or do a group of insurers pay out? It's interesting stuff, when you consider it.
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| wolf123 (Member) 11 January 2007 11:33 |
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Wouldnt this go back too the first games you smashed a button on like say atari with its one button controller you smashed it so then nintendo so that means they had this pantent over 20 years and have not done anything.
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| Allegro1 (Member) 11 January 2007 13:18 |
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This isn't about button pushing, its about the analog joystick. I guess the writers of this article are about as sloppy as the lawyers of Fenner. The method of using the pot to set the timing of a pulse generator has been used since the advent of the PC joystick. Fenner's going after this because they see deep pockets and an easy troll for a fat out of court settlement. It won't go anywhere. Maybe they should stick to chasing ambulances or filing class action lawsuits.
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| solarf (Member) 11 January 2007 14:56 |
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Its disgusting how Fenner thinks they can just sue someone for a quick buck... I hope it gets thrown out of court its just so silly.
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| Davedough (Member) 11 January 2007 18:50 |
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There's nothing "sloppy" about the article. Had you read the description and interpreted the scope of the patent, it covers analog position making a connection and sending a low voltage digital signal to a processor. The term "joystick" is a general term used to describe the low voltage interface. The action of a button push is simply one example of what might be interpreted as an analog input which converts to a digital signal. Any movement issued by the user of said "joystick" is an analog measurement. The contact of the button, gyroscope or positioning device made to the circuit board to produce the low voltage signal instructing the processor of what changes have been made are what's claimed to be patented.
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| cazer (Member) 11 January 2007 21:39 |
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what i want to know is how is has damaged them.
they really don't see the big picture what they need to do is sue god for making the world, I'm sure they have a patent on that one.
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| Allegro1 (Member) 12 January 2007 5:38 |
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Davedough,
A "button push" is an on-off control signal (switch closure). That is the method used on the old Atari 2600 joysticks and the Original NES system. There is no analog position sensing, it is either on or off. This suit is about the analog position measurement method first used on the old Kraft PC joysticks and in use inside Radio Controlled Airplane controllers. Of course there's no big bucks there so there is no use suing those folks.
I don't want to get into a spitting contest about this since we pretty much all agree that these jerks will sue anyone with big pockets and its too bad there is nothing in our justice system to impose penalties for frivolous lawsuits.
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| DarkMods (Inactive) 12 January 2007 14:15 |
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I DONT EVEN LIKE SONY AND I DONT THINK THEY DESERVE this.
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| XENON (Junior Member) 12 January 2007 15:16 |
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Welcome to insanity and irrelevancy at its finest!
It's like me suing everyone who owns a computer because I invented the 'on' button and the sound it makes when you press it!
They should be laughed out of court and be forced into bankruptcy by paying the legal bills of the 'big 3'
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| borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 12 January 2007 18:41 |
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All this for pressing buttons... My question is Who is Ferner??
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| IcyCool (Junior Member) 12 January 2007 21:15 |
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I don't know how many other companies he could go after with this lawsuit. According to his patent, if he is stating it correctly, it's only for wireless controllers that use joysticks. He's so dumb, God I hate this man.
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| sephiphor (Newbie) 13 January 2007 7:36 |
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Jeez, telling by this story, it seems Fenner thinks he owns everything. I play video games myself(like almost everybody here) and I don't see it as copyright infringement each time I press a button on my controllers. Sueing a company for that is just ridiculous!
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| sirksam (Member) 13 January 2007 16:20 |
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LAME!!! This is pure crap!
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| Byron9 (Newbie) 13 January 2007 22:17 |
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A Tempest in a teapot.
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| xerby (Newbie) 14 January 2007 7:04 |
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Hi, In 1955 I used joysticks on a shipboard gun fire control radar scope. Who knows how many circuits and doodads were patented under the aegis of governmental research and contract before and after? I suppose those yokels will next claim possession of the original patent on electrons.
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