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| likus (Newbie) 25 May 2007 10:03 |
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Isn't this pretty much the same idea that was supposed to stop piracy over a year ago?
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| navi1199 (Junior Member) 25 May 2007 10:03 |
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Quote: They then flood the P2P networks with "decoy" files which would in theory bury the original files as well as "saturate the networks' waiting lists to increase file's download time
This seems very very familiar, I couldve sworn that the RIAA tried this on p2p software such as limewire,winmx, and shareaza.. meh I could be wrong though...
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| windsong (Junior Member) 25 May 2007 10:18 |
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Obviously they have never heard of Usenet. Or emule, for that matter, which bans corrupt data senders and "fake" servers.
Idiots.
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| Halen5150 (Member) 25 May 2007 10:20 |
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HAHAHAHAH these people are sooooo retarded. For christ's sake, just look @ the st00pid title.
Quote: Company claims it can stop piracy
^Isn't that what THEY ALLLLLL SAY!?!?!?!?!?^ LLAAAAWWWWLLLZZZ!!!!
I find it hilarious how they think that this is going to work.
#1: Yes, this will work for public trackers; but what happens to the private trackers>?
Those ppl. won't be able to even touch BT and put dummy files on it simply because who the hell is gonna give an invite to somebody working against the whole BT scene?? lol
Of course, there'll always be the clever few that do leak into the private trackers; but thats obviously where PeerGuardian2 is just gonna come into the picture and end up giving us the last laugh simply because if PG2 is running; you won't connect to [most] of the bad sharers [i.e. gov't ppl.] and hence their plan is bound to fail.
idk what they're smoking; but either way piracy is never going to stop. Whether it be by simple rent-and-copy; or internet DL'ing; there'll always be another way.
P.S. But if all goes to hell; we still have IRC, right??? LOL
Funny Article--best I've read in a while =P
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| ZeroHour (Inactive) 25 May 2007 10:21 |
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u can't stop piracy. what they are doing is making piracy more public and educating ppl how to do it. if they just stopped talkin about it piracy would decrease.
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| Z3120 (Senior Member) 25 May 2007 10:23 |
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Why does this method sound so familiar? I could have sworn I heard of something like this quite similar a few years ago. Anyone care to elaborate? I remember hearing about this at some sort of science demonstration or something...
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| georgeluv (Member) 25 May 2007 11:12 |
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unfortunately youll never know which group will bring out the vid first, then all your doing afterwards in setting decoys. all the downloader’s have to do is check which one came out first. then see the endless list of decoys all by the same poster afterwards with a suspicious number of seeders. people who know how to download properly will never have any trouble finding the good shit, a system has already been in place for years, via "release news" sites and the active monitoring of torrents on index sites by their administrators, as well as the ranking and corruption filtering that some p2p clients perform.
Piracy is here to say, sorry.
EDIT: and i love how they try to mark the real stuff as "fake" on p2p nets, it shows up with a "fake" mark for about two minutes before those remarks get deleted by someone. Or they get buried by all the “real” reviews.
One would have to have a system so vast and employ so many fake reviewers and posters and fake uploaders and fake downloader’s of the fake uploads its just retarded. The network of lies they would have to spin will never reach a quadrillionth of the size of the actual net, so this type of nullification via fake posts will never work. Their network of posting dummy files will never reach the size of the one already in place that ensures all the real files get out correctly.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 25 May 2007 11:18
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| spydah (Junior Member) 25 May 2007 11:35 |
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They really stupid. With each failed attempt at bringing down piracy makes it that much harder then before. So many companies so many strategies have all gone to waste as well as money and effort. Also if they are successful at killing one site 5 - 10 more will pop up to replace the last. This has been the same M O each time. What they need to do is stop being stubborn and start lowering these ridiculous prices for movies and music then they may have more customers and less people downloading. For that to work it would at least need to be half of half is for what ever movie or music cd. This also includes OS and other software.
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| NexGen76 (Member) 25 May 2007 11:38 |
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Your guys are just waste government money, this ish! will never work unless you shut down the net & thats not happening.Stop wastering money & try to find a happy medium to the problem.But im tired of getting burn at theater's by there high ass prices then you got to deal with a bone head behind you that crunching real loud on popcorn....But we can't get out money back so i said the same thing to you when i can't get my money back live with it.....
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| diabolic (Newbie) 25 May 2007 13:38 |
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1. who needs the net to get pirated movies?
2. Who's up for some dim sum and SPYderman 3?
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| limelight (Member) 25 May 2007 13:43 |
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Quote: [quote]They then flood the P2P networks with "decoy" files which would in theory bury the original files as well as "saturate the networks' waiting lists to increase file's download time
This seems very very familiar, I couldve sworn that the RIAA tried this on p2p software such as limewire,winmx, and shareaza.. meh I could be wrong though...[/quote]Yes is does sound familar...And on top of that ISP's would be super-pissed about an increase in bandwidth.
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| venomX05 (Senior Member) 25 May 2007 14:13 |
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oh jesus of mercy...haven't we heard this statement before...i mean come on, how old can it get?
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| borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 25 May 2007 18:20 |
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Quote: And how does the company intend to sabotage the pirates? According to the company, they first identify the pirates IP address and then forward it to producers and the pirate's ISP. They then flood the P2P networks with "decoy" files which would in theory bury the original files as well as "saturate the networks' waiting lists to increase file's download time" and send "corrupt data to users while they are trying to download the pirate files."
Can we not stop them accessing out ip addresses via i don't know a lil program like peer guardian. :P
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| ogryzek (Member) 25 May 2007 18:33 |
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Doesn't DMCA (and similar laws) pretty much make it illegal and punishable to access computer network without authorization ?
Couldn't a simple user agreement, banning exactly what their technology is designed to do, be enough to deter studios from employing such scheme ?
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| sdsunjay (Inactive) 27 May 2007 0:41 |
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lol. i would like to see them try. its outragious. it will never work anyway.
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| RuPtUrE (Junior Member) 27 May 2007 7:53 |
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Originally posted by windsong: Obviously they have never heard of Usenet. Or emule, for that matter, which bans corrupt data senders and "fake" servers.
Idiots.
I Agree. I just get on giganews and get what i need. Besides P2P is weak now at days full of crap!
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| sdsunjay (Inactive) 27 May 2007 13:38 |
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not necessarily. P2p is still a great way to get things one may need, but there are newer methods coming out.
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| Halen5150 (Member) 27 May 2007 14:09 |
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Originally posted by sdsunjay: not necessarily. P2p is still a great way to get things one may need, but there are newer methods coming out.
Definitely. Although I'm sure Usenet is great; P2P [bittorrent] is still just as good--it just all comes down to your actual internet connection speed in the end.
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| sdsunjay (Inactive) 27 May 2007 21:15 |
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how does connection speed tie in?
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| davidrose (Member) 31 May 2007 12:46 |
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I think this is so amusing I just love them telling everyone there new idea (not new) claiming that they can stop it is ridiculous and inaccurate as hell.
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| Alaphic (Newbie) 31 May 2007 22:36 |
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i know how to stop piracy...
make some content worth fucking buying, let me use it in ANY format that i want to use it in, and don't charge me out the ass for it.
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| madman91 (Junior Member) 1 June 2007 19:26 |
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LOLzorz...
What about private scene FTP servers? What about invite-only bittorrent trackers?
Only n00bs use P2p like gnutella and emule.
Private is the way to go.
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| z9999 (Newbie) 2 June 2007 23:36 |
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Why not just cut all the internet pipes? It's bad enough just trying to browse the internet and receive email, and have to put up with all the spam and other advertising garbage. For every desired KB I receive it seems I receive nearly a MB of undesirable waste.
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| davidrose (Member) 3 June 2007 7:03 |
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Only n00bs use P2p like gnutella and emule.
Private is the way to go.
I still love emule a real source for older harder to find video
much of it is not found anywhere else. So if your looking for lets say hard to find anything you might find it there.
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| Unfocused (Member) 18 June 2007 17:03 |
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I agree, all this does is inform the uniformed that piracy of new movies is possible. This is what happened with Napster. As soon as the local news got a hold of the software, everybody started using it and the walls collapsed.
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