That is some good news, didnt think TY could possibly make better disks (I live and die by TYG02's). Hope the price is competitive!

TY is sweet, and now even sweeter!

Still, sweetness has a price. And the price of TY is too high for my DVD-consumption. I'll stick to the second rate brands, even if it means I have to wash my hands more often, or I can't cratch my DVD's... :P

I wish TY would make the +R media like this! And it's glossy inkjet printables are still -Rs! When will they expand and do this for their +Rs?

I'm IHoe please make the +R's soon toon

Originally posted by Deznaj:

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TY is sweet, and now even sweeter!

Still, sweetness has a price. And the price of TY is too high for my DVD-consumption. I'll stick to the second rate brands, even if it means I have to wash my hands more often, or I can't cratch my DVD's... :P

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I think the TY's are great value, from my experience i found that the TY's last several times longer then inferior brands.

I had recently tested a few of my Memorex DVD-R using Nero CD-DVD i had used to back up important data, such as pics and vids. The results were appalling, they had minimal scratched and were stored as they should be. The Dvd's were only a few weeks old.

I find with the TY's that they last at least twice as long as these memorex in terms of durability and longevity.

So i suppose that instead of buying several inferior disks, spending a little extra is worth the money. (not sure about abroad but in the UK, you can purchase 100 TYG03' for £25)

These new disks will be brilliant for backing up for long periods of time. :)

thick and fancy plastic is all well and good, but the real longevity factor in DVD-R life is the metal dye they use. cheap brands use inferior die and dont use a thick enough amount, taiyo yuden is the best because they use the best dye, simple as that.

the better the metal dye the more resistant it will be to breaking down naturally inside the disk over time. cds have a shelf life of around 10 years. that means if you put a cd in a jewel case and store it perfectly in a cool controlled environment it will still only last 10 years. this is why people make cds with gold dye, gold doesnt break down as fast. dvd-rs are SUPER fragile. they are just as fragile as a cd but because the tolerance for reading the info on a dvd is much tighter that means its that more susceptible to a dye defect or a scratch.

i personaly am using taiyo yuden tygo2s and love them.

i dont think taiyo yudens are that expensive, if you get the go1s they are very cheap. they are definitely worth the extra 5 beans to get THE BEST dvd-rs possible.

I don't agree with georgeluv statement of

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cds have a shelf life of around 10 years. that means if you put a cd in a jewel case and store it perfectly in a cool controlled environment it will still only last 10 years.

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if I remember correctly my Beatles cds came out in the early 90s and it's way past a decade ago.... it's stored in it's jewel case in a rack with other CDs I have and still is in perfect condition! Actually the rack is built into my stereo cabinet, right next to my electronics which get a little bit hot and I live in Florida! So it's really not the best of conditions and still the CDs that I bought in the early 90s are perfectly fine! and I think the CDs and DVDs will last much longer than a decade .... more like 50 yrs or more! I keep my DVDs in a DVD case and that will do the job!

Im a big fan of TY's they are the best going around and im happy to see they are improving on their product.

Ihoe~

im not sure if that number was the result of tests under normal usage or archived.

"At present, stated CD-R lifetimes are estimates based on accelerated aging tests as the technology has not been in existence long enough to verify the upper range. With proper care it is thought that CD-Rs should be readable one thousand times or more and have a shelf life of several hundred years."

^thats something i just found, so maybe cd-rs have gotten better or they have been doing better tests. i doubt "several hundred years" is possible, maybe from the very best cd-rs imaginable.

also the article goes on to state:

"Real-life (not accelerated aging) tests have revealed that some CD-Rs degrade quickly even if stored optimally."

@georgeluv....... this is what I go by:
http://www.videointerchange.com/dvd.htm#...0DVD%20Handling

check out the DVD Storage and Longevity section:
DVD Storage - DVD Longevity & Lifespan - DVD Handling

Manufacturer and independent testing labs estimate the life of a DVD anywhere from 30 to 100 years if properly stored & handled. Exactly how accurate (or overly optimistic) these estimates are, won't be confirmed for another 30 to 100 years. Torture testing includes temperature and humidity extremes to get a handle on how long the media will last, but a lot of unpredictable factors such as exposure to airborne pollutants aren't taken into consideration. Thus we tend to lean much closer to the 30 year estimate.

In another even 25 years or so, the real issue won't be whether the DVD will have survived, but rather will be the problem of trying to find a working DVD player with which to make the transfer to whatever new format is in vogue... It's another case where the media will outlive the availability of equipment upon which to play it. Technology is moving at an ever faster pace and the video field is already awash in over 70 dead, abandoned or obsolete formats. Though the standard 4.7 Gb DVD is prevalent today, it will quickly become obsolete with the introduction of new technology if history is any lesson.

Regardless of how long the DVD will reign, we naturally want to achieve the greatest longevity of the medium..

the article goes on with more info....read from the link above... and it's updated periodically.....

I'm glad to see TY take the lead on this issue and make great media even better!

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I also have some home made music cd's givin to me from the realy 90's, every one still plays great.

It is always good when the best make their product even better. Keeps everybody on their toes.

it's now June 28, has anyone seen or tried the new Triple Guard printable Taiyo Yuden disks yet? Supposed to be out on June 12th and I still don't see it in the online stores.