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PS3 PlayTV coming September 10th

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 18 Jul 2008 15:22 User comments (41)

PS3 PlayTV coming September 10th Sony Europe boss David Reeves has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 PlayTV device will launch in Europe beginning on September 10th in the UK and then launching in other regions until December.
For those unaware, the PlayTV is a device that acts as a DVR add-on for the gaming console, one that will allow users to record TV, even if they are playing games.

"Yep, it's going to be 10th September that PlayTV comes out,"
said Reeves in an interview.

"It was very difficult for some of the tech guys but we had to include it in the firmware upgrade, 2.41, but it's done now," he added in regards to the new option to record while playing.

The PlayTV will cost EUR 99 when it launches and there was no word on a North America release. Other PAL markets however, will see the device soon.

"We've got Australia and New Zealand also lined up for it in January or February, because on their digital terrestrial they haven't actually set the standards yet."

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41 user comments

118.7.2008 16:16

Now's the time to buy that big hdd you've always wanted :D

218.7.2008 16:49

I hope when the US goes digital we get some sort of unified channel line up/info guide so we can MAYBE get PlayTV here. Out of everything coming to the PS3 this is the most desirable feature I can want.

I know the EU feels like they have gotten the short end of the stick at times with things like no Video store yet, the occasional pushed game release date & things like Qore...but I would GLADLY give all of that up just to have PlayTV available over here. I can only imagine having access to any show that is on live broadcast or recorded on my PS3's HD to be able to be viewed on my PSP.

You guys don't know how lucky you are, and REALLY can't complain! lol.

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318.7.2008 16:59

^ (satanic) buhahaha!
For once we get something before US!!!
Cant wait for this

518.7.2008 17:22

Originally posted by SDF_GR:
^ (satanic) buhahaha!
For once we get something before US!!!
Cant wait for this
wow what a waste...I have plenty of things that record tv... a DVR..Tivo...2 media center tvs that can record 300+ hours or tv....this will just put stress on the PS3 HDD...those are files that are like my digi pics...very valuable

618.7.2008 19:57

Quote:
Originally posted by SDF_GR:
^ (satanic) buhahaha!
For once we get something before US!!!
Cant wait for this
wow what a waste...I have plenty of things that record tv... a DVR..Tivo...2 media center tvs that can record 300+ hours or tv....this will just put stress on the PS3 HDD...those are files that are like my digi pics...very valuable
Stress on your PS3 HDD? You think recording will stress it's hard drive? That's a laugh. I've done more to my HDD than just record and my HDD is in great shape.

I don't see how this is a waste, just because you have Tivo, DVR and 2 Media Center TV's that can record, doesn't mean everyone else does.

Also, all your components take up space, while with the PS3, you have a blu-ray player, game console, and a DVR in one peripheral.

718.7.2008 20:03
gmontalc
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Quote:
Originally posted by SDF_GR:
^ (satanic) buhahaha!
For once we get something before US!!!
Cant wait for this
wow what a waste...I have plenty of things that record tv... a DVR..Tivo...2 media center tvs that can record 300+ hours or tv....this will just put stress on the PS3 HDD...those are files that are like my digi pics...very valuable
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Agree, what's the point to have PlayTV...? I have already a bunch of recording devices... record the same waste crap into my PS3?, I don't think so.

818.7.2008 20:19

And just as the earlier poster said that people just overlook and don't seem to understand

Quote:
...doesn't mean everyone else does.
No appreciation for what is offered to those who may be interested...just complaints of "it sucks because I don't want it". Also I find this comment really overlooked

Quote:
Also, all your components take up space, while with the PS3, you have a blu-ray player, game console, and a DVR in one peripheral.
So a DVR cost additional fees monthly, Media center stuff additional costs as well as TiVo's additional fees. I mean come on, to have all of these plus MUCH more in one device that you can buy for $400 (new & less used) plus the cost of PlayTV.

Hey, it's okay to not like something but to not appreciate all that it offers...that's crazy guys!

918.7.2008 20:23

Originally posted by gmontalc:
Agree, what's the point to have PlayTV...? I have already a bunch of recording devices... record the same waste crap into my PS3?, I don't think so.
You obviously didn't read the post above. Not everyone has a recording device, such as myself.

I also want this but I live in NA. The US is somewhat lucky since digital broadcast is just one year away; I think it was Feb 2009. Canada has to wait until 2013!


1018.7.2008 21:34

Quote:
Also, all your components take up space, while with the PS3, you have a blu-ray player, game console, and a DVR in one peripheral.
So a DVR cost additional fees monthly, Media center stuff additional costs as well as TiVo's additional fees. I mean come on, to have all of these plus MUCH more in one device that you can buy for $400 (new & less used) plus the cost of PlayTV.

Hey, it's okay to not like something but to not appreciate all that it offers...that's crazy guys!
My Media center PC's don't cost anything FREE...just connect the cable to the PC and thats it....Tivo is also FREE...when I bought it 2-3 years ago I got lifetime service...and my DVR is just like a VCR...sits in cabinet..put a DVD-RW in and thats it...if you need it cool...I just think that most that have bought a PS3 have DVR-type device in the house....Everytime a HDD is used it shortens the life span....how would you defrag it...makes me shreek just thinking about it....just my 2 cents

1118.7.2008 21:47

Now wait a second. i know The U.S. has limited HD content, but how exactly is this supposed to work.

Any word on how the console will utilize this PlayTV Service, there has to be some sort of switch in the PS3's Firmware, but how will the device act if i have it imported. I really don't see how they can region lock a peripheral.

1219.7.2008 0:20

Originally posted by DXR88:
Now wait a second. i know The U.S. has limited HD content, but how exactly is this supposed to work.

Any word on how the console will utilize this PlayTV Service, there has to be some sort of switch in the PS3's Firmware, but how will the device act if i have it imported. I really don't see how they can region lock a peripheral.
I can't quite answer most of what you're saying but PlayTV intercepts digital broadcast signals only meant for European standards aka. DVB-X. North America on the other hand uses ATSC signals for it's broadcast, though there isn't any digital broadcast for US yet regardless of many newer TV's supporting ATSC.

Perhaps connecting the device to your PS3 will work regardless of region but there won't be any signal to receive... that or it will be region locked.


1319.7.2008 1:23

QUESTION!!

I got a satellite cable, with PlayTV would I be able to connect the Satellite reciever to the PlayTV add-on and then hook it to my PS3, and then have record while I play?

I realise now one has this yet but, i hope those who are keeping an eye out for PlayTV could answer this

I doubt i'll be seeing this where i live(Puerto Rico) because as far as i've heard its only been reported to come out to UK, Australia and New Zealand

I'd just like to know what i could do with this if it were coming here :P

1419.7.2008 3:32
fgamer
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You'd think something like this would get pushed here in the US more sooner than later, but it must be something stopping them from doing so here. I'd love to have this feature also even though I already got a HDTV Tuner card in my PC. But it still would be good to have an all in one portable solution like PlayTV for the PS3. Anyone know if playtv does HD?

1519.7.2008 6:14

Originally posted by oner:
"it sucks because I don't want it".
Is more like "It sucks cause i dont have a PS3"

and
@muccione
i have 2x1B external drives dedicated for my PS3, now how many hours can i record in there?

1619.7.2008 6:25

Originally posted by fgamer:
You'd think something like this would get pushed here in the US more sooner than later, but it must be something stopping them from doing so here. I'd love to have this feature also even though I already got a HDTV Tuner card in my PC. But it still would be good to have an all in one portable solution like PlayTV for the PS3. Anyone know if playtv does HD?
I mentioned the reason in a previous post. North America doesn't have digital broadcast frequencies yet. We still have analog broadcast which is standard definition.

The whole point of PlayTV is to play and record HD broadcast television. Europe already has it, US doesn't. Sony might release it sometime in 2009 for US but only maybe. Canada gets screwed on this one... the PS4 will be out by the time we get HD broadcast.


1719.7.2008 10:56

Originally posted by rvinkebob:
I mentioned the reason in a previous post. North America doesn't have digital broadcast frequencies yet.
So its only an over the Air device, that make little sense at all. if thats the case then i wont buy it when it does hit America, i only get channel 12 news here and thats at night. for every thing else i use cable.

on another note some states in America have already completed transition, and are awaiting the shut off.

1819.7.2008 11:30

\does anyone have the new ntl virgin codes for eurovox max v please
- thanks

1919.7.2008 11:31

Originally posted by muccione:
My Media center PC's don't cost anything FREE...just connect the cable to the PC and thats it....Tivo is also FREE...when I bought it 2-3 years ago I got lifetime service...and my DVR is just like a VCR...sits in cabinet..put a DVD-RW in and thats it...if you need it cool...I just think that most that have bought a PS3 have DVR-type device in the house....Everytime a HDD is used it shortens the life span....how would you defrag it...makes me shreek just thinking about it....just my 2 cents
There is some truth not being mentioned though in that your Tivo was not free. The service for lifetime was definitely not free (as I have one w/lifetime also). The DVR was not free. As for the lifespan of the HDD and it being shortened...why use your DVR or TiVo then? They use HDD's that don't need to be defraged so it is not an issue, the same goes for the PS3 & 360 as well.

I can totally understand if you already have these devices and you don't think it's needed (hell I have my Tivo & 2 Comcast DVR's along with a multitude of other tech) but to cut it short for things that have no affect on it's use (defrag?), is a bit far fetched..

2019.7.2008 13:01

I can't wait for this to come to the states. I've been looking forward to this for about 6 months now.

And yeah...I'm one of those people who do not have Tivo or a DVR.

2120.7.2008 0:31

Originally posted by muccione:
Quote:
Also, all your components take up space, while with the PS3, you have a blu-ray player, game console, and a DVR in one peripheral.
So a DVR cost additional fees monthly, Media center stuff additional costs as well as TiVo's additional fees. I mean come on, to have all of these plus MUCH more in one device that you can buy for $400 (new & less used) plus the cost of PlayTV.

Hey, it's okay to not like something but to not appreciate all that it offers...that's crazy guys!
My Media center PC's don't cost anything FREE...just connect the cable to the PC and thats it....Tivo is also FREE...when I bought it 2-3 years ago I got lifetime service...and my DVR is just like a VCR...sits in cabinet..put a DVD-RW in and thats it...if you need it cool...I just think that most that have bought a PS3 have DVR-type device in the house....Everytime a HDD is used it shortens the life span....how would you defrag it...makes me shreek just thinking about it....just my 2 cents
Wow, so your telling me that you got 2 media center PC's, Tivo and your DVR for FREE? You didn't pay ANYTHING?

Wow, you either have really good hook ups, or i'm smelling something that comes out of your rear end.

2220.7.2008 2:35


Wow, so your telling me that you got 2 media center PC's, Tivo and your DVR for FREE? You didn't pay ANYTHING?

Wow, you either have really good hook ups, or i'm smelling something that comes out of your rear end.
I paid for them ALL...I bought them for reason...My PS3 was bought to play games and watch BR.....NOT to record TV....I bought the other devices for that...except the PCs....they just have that as an added perk...This sounds like the HD-DVD add-on for the X360...glad I didn't buy that...I bet you did....
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2320.7.2008 3:35

Originally posted by muccione:

Wow, so your telling me that you got 2 media center PC's, Tivo and your DVR for FREE? You didn't pay ANYTHING?

Wow, you either have really good hook ups, or i'm smelling something that comes out of your rear end.
you must be a moron....I paid for them ALL...I bought them for reason...My PS3 was bought to play games and watch BR.....NOT to record TV....I bought the other devices for that...except the PCs....they just have that as an added perk...This sounds like the HD-DVD add-on for the X360...glad I didn't buy that...I bet you did....
How does this sound like the HD-DVD addon? That was a next generation optical media that failed to grab enough people's attention and just so happened to forefit. This is in a world of it's own. People who buy it would get it to make their PS3 a complete media device, if they don't have TiVo's or DVR's. PlayTV can't really "fail" since it wasn't intended for worldwide release.

Oh and by the way, I think the device captures more digital broadcast signals than available in a person's location. Watch one of the demonstration videos and you'll see what I'm talking about. Think of it as those old TV's that came with 30 free channels such as Discovery and Comedy Channel along with your local channels. Except they're region specific and in HD.



2420.7.2008 7:05

Originally posted by muccione:
you must be a moron....I paid for them ALL...I bought them for reason...My PS3 was bought to play games and watch BR.....NOT to record TV....I bought the other devices for that...except the PCs....they just have that as an added perk...
Even if you have a ps3 you are saying that you have a bunch of crap, and you problem is a small box that no one will force you to buy, or what so ever?
Originally posted by muccione:

My Media center PC's don't cost anything FREE...just connect the cable to the PC and thats it....Tivo is also FREE...when I bought it 2-3 years ago I got lifetime service...and my DVR is just like a VCR...sits in cabinet..put a DVD-RW in and thats it...if you need it cool...
eeeeee......who told you that PTV will cost anything more except the purchase money?
Originally posted by muccione:
I just think that most that have bought a PS3 have DVR-type device in the house....

You may also think that most people that have a ferrari hat, or t-shirt have a ferrari car, well guess what, no.
what logic is this?
Originally posted by muccione:
Everytime a HDD is used it shortens the life span....how would you defrag it...makes me shreek just thinking about it....just my 2 cents
if you have bought a PS3, why have you bought it in 1st place?? Dont even play games then, cause BD's life will shorten too.
wtf man? none of your posts makes sense.......
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2520.7.2008 11:20

Whether anyone wants the additional services/device capabilities that PlayTV offers is exactly what it is optional so you can't fault anyone at all for not wanting something...lets remember that guys (and no need to call anyone names too). But this could very well be a great solution for those who want a multitude of options to be had in one device.


2620.7.2008 17:49
gmontalc
Inactive

Originally posted by rvinkebob:
Originally posted by gmontalc:
Agree, what's the point to have PlayTV...? I have already a bunch of recording devices... record the same waste crap into my PS3?, I don't think so.
You obviously didn't read the post above. Not everyone has a recording device, such as myself.

I also want this but I live in NA. The US is somewhat lucky since digital broadcast is just one year away; I think it was Feb 2009. Canada has to wait until 2013!

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Sorry to dissapoint you, mate... in Canada has already digital TV !... and most of all in HD.

I have no appreciation for what is offered that I do have to pay a monthly fee or for a monthly "service"; Simply I can record and wacht it later or at any time I want without having the worries of paying for a "service"... No thanks!

Still I won't bother with the PS3 PlayTV

My best suggestion is for you guys is to afford the best quality DVD/HDD recorder. You may record onto the HDD of the recorder any shows, movies and programs you may like the same way you have done it with the VCR, then if you wish burn it onto DVD's, the PS3 plays back in excellent high quality DVD+R double layers disks.

Another suggestion install a WIFI card for your computer, after installation reboot computer.

Microsoft Media Player sync your PS3,( open Windows Media Player, click onto the Library tab scroll down to Media Sharing, at this point PS3 has sync with your computer. On your PS3 you'll see an icon from Media Player, if do not automatically appears then click on the PS3 'Search For Media Server' icon. From now on all your music and videos can at this point be stream without paying extra money.!
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2720.7.2008 20:47

Originally posted by gmontalc:
"Sorry to dissapoint you, mate... in Canada has already digital TV !... and most of all in HD."
No, you're thinking of cable. This isn't the same. We don't have ATSC standards yet. You know... TV's that use aerial antenna's to view channels? We still have NTSC standard definition quality but ATSC is coming in 2013. It's those 5-10 free broadcast channels that every TV is able to recieve.

If you look at the PlayTV box, you'll see a little RF, whatever it's called, port to connect either to your cable outlet in your wall or to an antenna.
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2820.7.2008 20:56

@gmontalc
Thank our luck that there are genius in this planet like you.
Every one here in AD was expecting someone like you to teach them how to stream to their PS3.I am almost sure that you must be the only one especially in this forum that knows how to stream media to PS3.
Do you accept donations? i mean for your effort and all, you should.

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2920.7.2008 20:57
gmontalc
Inactive

Originally posted by rvinkebob:
Originally posted by gmontalc:
"Sorry to dissapoint you, mate... in Canada has already digital TV !... and most of all in HD."
No, you're thinking of cable. This isn't the same. We don't have ATSC standards yet. You know... .
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NO, I'm thinking Satellite..... 100% Digital High Definition

PS3 PlayTV, another gimmickie way to squeeze your hard earn money out of your pocket.

3020.7.2008 21:01
gmontalc
Inactive

Originally posted by SDF_GR:
@gmontalc
Thank our luck that there are genius in this planet like you.
Every one here in AD was expecting someone like you to teach them how to stream to their PS3.I am almost sure that you must be the only one especially in this forum that knows how to stream media to PS3.
Do you accept donations? i mean for your effort and all, you should.

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No, I just do it for FREE.

On the serious side... if we all stop the GREED for a fact we would live in a better world.

3120.7.2008 23:13

On the serious side... if we all stop the GREED for a fact we would live in a better world.


Greed is human nature,there for it well never disappear so long as humans remain.
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3220.7.2008 23:16

OK, first off, how does a brief article about an up and coming product release spark so much school girl bickering. The whole attack being launced on a yet to be released product is very juvenille. It is nice to see some other level headed consumers/AD members who can appreciate the article for what it is, a source for information.

Also, for those who say they have all sorts of recording devices and abilities; congratulations, you are obviously doing well inlife, but please, calm down. I am not saying you have to like the product, just try and narrow any nay-saying comments to actual tech specs. Going with that point, maybe wait until you have some hard evidence, not hear say, or using your own speculations, if you were that smart you would be working for the companies developing these products, not on a third party website commenting on them. This article wasn't meant to prove how useful it would be to each individual who reads this, it is merely letting us know about a new product being released.

Logging in to forums, article comment sections, etc to pick a fight with someone or tear down an article and its topic is serisouly imature. Lets try to act like adults and take our news with a grain of salt.

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3320.7.2008 23:27

Originally posted by mark0416:
Lets try to act like adults and take our news with a grain of salt.
i don't like salt, its to salty.

3421.7.2008 0:15

Originally posted by gmontalc:
"NO, I'm thinking Satellite..... 100% Digital High Definition

PS3 PlayTV, another gimmickie way to squeeze your hard earn money out of your pocket."
Sorry, I forgot to mention satellite. And it's actually about 30% HD, 70% SD, but growing in HD content.

Here's the great thing about life. You don't need to be persuaded by anything, so long as you have a choice, which MANY people at aD do. No one said to buy this, but people complain non-stop about "I have this" and "We don't need that". If people choose to buy this, they either know what it's worth or they put little emphasis in their choices.


3521.7.2008 2:14
gmontalc
Inactive

Originally posted by rvinkebob:
Originally posted by gmontalc:
"NO, I'm thinking Satellite..... 100% Digital High Definition

PS3 PlayTV, another gimmickie way to squeeze your hard earn money out of your pocket."
Sorry, I forgot to mention satellite. And it's actually about 30% HD, 70% SD, but growing in HD content.

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Satellite 100% Digital TV... Now, you're talking about the quantity of channels broadcast. And I'm and was talking about Quality!

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Quote:
FEBRUARY 19, 2009 the day that the analog signal TV will cease in North America. If you still have a TV manufacture before 1998, you'll no longer be able to watch any programming except if you have installed to your TV a digital box converter. Newer TV's will not be affect it.



The idea sounds terrific, but what useless thing if the PS3 HDD is only max. of 80GB. Now you tell me how much High Definition content Music, Photos and Videos can hold a 80GB?.

No,... wait you have to expend more money to upgrade the HDD.!!!!

Now, according to the article above the PS3 PlayTV will act as a 'DVR' (Digital Video Recorder) a add-on for the PS3. So far I know the Blu-Ray disk player that the PS3 has, 'do not record', maybe it is with a proper Firmware that will unlock the potential. If my expeculation would be true, then I would have a second though about the PlayTV....who knows?
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3621.7.2008 13:46

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The idea sounds terrific, but what useless thing if the PS3 HDD is only max. of 80GB. Now you tell me how much High Definition content Music, Photos and Videos can hold a 80GB?.

No,... wait you have to expend more money to upgrade the HDD.!!!!

Now, according to the article above the PS3 PlayTV will act as a 'DVR' (Digital Video Recorder) a add-on for the PS3. So far I know the Blu-Ray disk player that the PS3 has, 'do not record', maybe it is with a proper Firmware that will unlock the potential. If my expeculation would be true, then I would have a second though about the PlayTV....who knows?
That is your choice to upgrade the hard drive or not, 80GB is alot. You can easily delete the content as well. The PS3's blu ray drive is Read Only, firmware cannot enable it to write, that's a hardware issue.

Alot of people are confused with this whole digital switch over:

1st off: Digital does NOT mean HD, it is just sending over a different signal, I bet $100 dollars that you will NOT be getting HD content through cable even when the switch over happens, but you will get a better picture.

2nd: North America does have digital broadcasts and has had digital broadcasts since 2005, it's called OTA, I use a UHF antenna and I catch 9 HD channels and 4 digital NON-HD channels sent out by FOX, CTV, Global, CW and much more. These companies have broadcast towers setup just for this. But remember that North America is not offically digital, when I mean offically digital, I mean that the cable from your wall from your cable provider, is still sending analog signals and NOT digital signals, not yet. Member 'rvinkebob' is right, ATSC is not standard here yet, NTSC still is.

3rd: Satellite is NOT 100% HD, Dish Network only had approx. 90 channels of HD along with Direct TV, but I believe that satellite is 100% digital signal.

Now with PlayTV, It has 2 tuners, one for viewing, and one for recording another show. You can have the choice for only using the one recording tuner, but you will have to stay on that channel while recording, besides, one RG6 cable won't break the bank. As well:

1st: As far as we KNOW, it can ONLY record OTA. No satellite support (That would just be to easy) and no cable support. Now the difference between OTA and Cable which doesn't allow recording, total beats me. I can understand satellite, because of the encryptions, but cable is beyond me.

Having this to only record OTA, is not totally useless, as time progresses, more companies will be using broadcast towers, especially when the ATSC standard rolls around. Like I said, when the switch over happens, you still won't be getting HD content through cable, but with OTA, you will, imagine your recording your favourite NBC shows in HD or recording the Superbowl in HD. Cable can't provide that.

@ muccione : You put a smile on my face :)

3721.7.2008 14:52

i live in the middle of No Where, so its kinda mute for me. but hey good idea,ya.

3823.7.2008 0:42
gmontalc
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Quote:
Rudeboi wrote---

That is your choice to upgrade the hard drive or not, 80 GB is alot.
Uhmm.... 80 GB is alot?
For my PS3 500 GB HDD has 150GB left..!
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3923.7.2008 10:01

Quote:
Quote:
Rudeboi wrote---

That is your choice to upgrade the hard drive or not, 80 GB is alot.
Uhmm.... 80 GB is alot?
For my PS3 500 GB HDD has 150GB left..!
Well that also depends on how much porno you have on your PS3! :P

How the hell do you take up 350 GB's?

4023.7.2008 16:27

Originally posted by Rudeboi:
"How the hell do you take up 350 GB's?"
I'd like to know as well. I have the 80GB (MotorStorm bundle) and I still have about 43GB left let alone Linux is taking up 10GB.


4124.7.2008 0:24
gmontalc
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Quote:
Originally posted by Rudeboi:
"How the hell do you take up 350 GB's?"
I'd like to know as well. I have the 80GB (MotorStorm bundle) and I still have about 43GB left let alone Linux is taking up 10GB.

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Like I mention in pre-post, I have installed a 500 GB external HDD on my PS3 with high quality content of Music, Photos, and lots and lots of Videos...,Racing Events, Movies, Music Videos, etc,... etc. (sorry, ...NO PORN).

That's why still make no sence to me of having a PlayTV.
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