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'Jasper' Xbox 360s finally available

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 30 Nov 2008 17:42 User comments (34)

'Jasper' Xbox 360s finally available According to a flooding of posts over at xbox-scene, it appears that the cooler-running Jasper-based Xbox 360 consoles have begun arriving in stores featuring the highly anticipated 65nm GPU which should significantly reduce RROD failures.
A quick way to note if your new console is indeed a Jasper-based model is to check the power supply. A Jasper will use 12.1A power supplies, while all current models draw 14.2A.

Looking at the serial number can also give you an indication as it is assumed that any model made on October 23rd 2008 or later is a Jasper model.

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130.11.2008 18:07

all i gotta say is about time!

230.11.2008 18:14

im not a 360 owner, so im asking what is this RROD failure rate anyways?

430.11.2008 18:24

Nooo, trust me to wait so long to buy a 360, mine was manufactured at the end of August '08.... :(

Just checked and my PSU is indeed 14.2A and 175W.
Ah well, i don't game too much anyways.

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530.11.2008 18:52

I've been following jasper news for a month or two now first at seattle PI and then at anandtech. Although consoles with manufacturing date of 10/23 or later is a good indication of being jasper there are unconfirmed jaspers from before that date. Depending on the team fdou or cson some falcons are still filtering through with a date of 10/23.

The only way to identify a jasper in store is to look through the little flap that displays the barcode and nudge the console to the right until you can see the amperage rating.

alright here's the link to the anandtech thread scroll to the bottom of the page and click the link RRoD posted.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview....MVIEWTMP=Linear

Some have reported getting 12.1a consoles with 14.2A 175 watt (falcon) power supply.

Edit: changed link

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630.11.2008 21:00

It's too early to have any statics on RROD with Jasper. It will take awhile to see any of them will have it. I trust what the consumer says about this. Not what M$ tells me.

71.12.2008 2:34

"Some have reported getting 12.1a consoles with 14.2A 175 watt (falcon) power supply. "

B4 ne 1 asks. YES this is ok! As long as the new system doesn't need MORE than the PSU can provide it is ok! so say it was a 14a system with a 12a PSU it would kill that psu quick like! But the 12a system with a 14a PSU will harm NOTHING! the A is just a MAX AMP Rating that that PSU Can provide! Same as Watts (A x V = W) But too many VOLTS say u plug in our 110v into a 220v it would be dead!

V=Volts
A=Amps
W=Watts

81.12.2008 5:09

Originally posted by ripxrush:
"Some have reported getting 12.1a consoles with 14.2A 175 watt (falcon) power supply. "

B4 ne 1 asks. YES this is ok! As long as the new system doesn't need MORE than the PSU can provide it is ok! so say it was a 14a system with a 12a PSU it would kill that psu quick like! But the 12a system with a 14a PSU will harm NOTHING! the A is just a MAX AMP Rating that that PSU Can provide! Same as Watts (A x V = W) But too many VOLTS say u plug in our 110v into a 220v it would be dead!

V=Volts
A=Amps
W=Watts
Originally posted by creaky:
Nooo, trust me to wait so long to buy a 360, mine was manufactured at the end of August '08.... :(

Just checked and my PSU is indeed 14.2A and 175W.
Ah well, i don't game too much anyways.

Uuuu getting old thar in your old age thar creaky m'boy?
You should know better than to turst these new fangled gadgets they make now adays! they don;t last and cost to much!!

This is true the unit will never take more amperage/wattage than it will need,now volts on the other hand will fry something if its not rated at the volts you are going to use.

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I hope these end the RROD issues that have plagued the 360 since day one...shame on MS for rushing the console to market...
Still waiting on a device I can remapping the Gdamn controls fully then I have no reason to get back into next gen gaming.
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91.12.2008 8:46

Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
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Still waiting on a device I can remapping the Gdamn controls fully then I have no reason to get back into next gen gaming.
You know I never understood that either Zippy. I mean how difficult would it be to add an option to re-map the controls to any button configuration you want no matter where it is (including ones like L3, R3 or even say the SixAxiS in the DS3)? They have to program the control schemes for standard play anyway! WTH is so hard to add that option in?

101.12.2008 9:00

Originally posted by Oner:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
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Still waiting on a device I can remapping the Gdamn controls fully then I have no reason to get back into next gen gaming.
You know I never understood that either Zippy. I mean how difficult would it be to add an option to re-map the controls to any button configuration you want no matter where it is (including ones like L3, R3 or even say the SixAxiS in the DS3)? They have to program the control schemes for standard play anyway! WTH is so hard to add that option in?
ZOMG!!! zippy speak in full effect!!!

What I meant was "I am still waiting on a device to give me full control remapping"..... but anyway the main reason one has not been made is because gaming is not consumer friendly,its only focused on profit not stable,solid and customizable products...

Options are an option modern devs do not have the time to put in and the console makers are more inept because they do not think consumers should have any options as they might get confused and dislike the product.....

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.

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111.12.2008 9:10
jab1981
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Originally posted by EricCarr:
I trust what the consumer says about this. Not what M$ tells me.
Is it just me or has this '$' thing gone way out of control. It was almost cute 10 years back, but what does it even mean at this point. MS is no better/worse than any of it's closest competitors. Be it $ony or $pple (sorry I had to). They're all businesses in the business of making money, and they all use the same tactics to accomplish that.

That said, Eric, take careful note. The consumer you're "trusting" is the one saying all this. This is not by any means a MS press release. AFAIK they don't even acknowledge hardware revisions, except when they're saying they won't comment on hardware revisions. This story is entirely sourced on those consumers you trust, it has nothing to do with Microsoft telling you anything.

I'm personally excited by this if for nothing else than the energy savings. The original launch console is an energy hog, hopefully these new units will get out there soon enough to delay the melting of our ice caps! I'm holding out for the rumored "slim model" myself, or at least until something happens to my launch console.

For the record, I've got two 360s and two PS3s (one each in the living room and bedroom). I bought one of each system on each launch and had to have both launch consoles replaced. The 360 red ringed and MS fixed it for free, the launch PS3s USB ports started failing and Sony charged me $180 to fix it. Both of the second consoles I purchased have run error free thus far. So it's not just MS who had trouble with launch consoles, and at least they fixed my issue for free. Sony on the other hand...

121.12.2008 9:24
jab1981
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
the main reason one has not been made is because gaming is not consumer friendly,its only focused on profit not stable,solid and customizable products...
I respectfully disagree with this. As a reformed PC gamer I can say that a HUGE appeal of consoles to me is that they ARE user friendly! I started PC gaming when the best FPS was Wolf3D, back then controls were a cinch. As controls became more and more complicated I soon found myself spending the first twenty minutes of a new game figuring out which new "keys" I actually would end up needing and which key/button I needed to map it to, i.e. do I really need a flashlight, how important is zoom, do i use my mouse 3 for reload or alternate fire? And then after about twenty minutes I'd have to spend another 10 in there redoing it all after I found out I did need the flashlight and reaching over to "f" each time wasn't going to cut it. And that's glossing over the other issues PC gaming brought (installs and incompatibilities).

With a console I adore popping in the newest game and almost immediately being able to fire it up. Each console game manages to pack in all those broken PC controls I'd have to spend my time remapping literally at my finger tips. For the most part I wouldn't want to change a thing. That is the definition of "consumer friendly". I want to spend my precious free time gaming, not figuring out how to setup the controls.

I do agree, in a perfect world allowing a gamer to remap their controls on the console would be a good thing. Those who want to would be able to, and those who didn't wouldn't have to. We'd all win. But in this imperfect world we live in, give me console controls or give me nothing. That issue alone is the largest reason I've given up on PC gaming. I haven't fired up more than a demo on the PC in several years now.

131.12.2008 9:47

evry 360 owner should hav returned his or her 360 console and wait til this day, i dun why ppl kept on buying this things, it's not a gift and u can't find in dollar tree , u payed for it and if u did, u should expect quality.

141.12.2008 9:48

Quote:
Originally posted by EricCarr:
I trust what the consumer says about this. Not what M$ tells me.
Is it just me or has this '$' thing gone way out of control. It was almost cute 10 years back, but what does it even mean at this point. MS is no better/worse than any of it's closest competitors. Be it $ony or $pple (sorry I had to). They're all businesses in the business of making money, and they all use the same tactics to accomplish that.

That said, Eric, take careful note. The consumer you're "trusting" is the one saying all this. This is not by any means a MS press release. AFAIK they don't even acknowledge hardware revisions, except when they're saying they won't comment on hardware revisions. This story is entirely sourced on those consumers you trust, it has nothing to do with Microsoft telling you anything.

I'm personally excited by this if for nothing else than the energy savings. The original launch console is an energy hog, hopefully these new units will get out there soon enough to delay the melting of our ice caps! I'm holding out for the rumored "slim model" myself, or at least until something happens to my launch console.

For the record, I've got two 360s and two PS3s (one each in the living room and bedroom). I bought one of each system on each launch and had to have both launch consoles replaced. The 360 red ringed and MS fixed it for free, the launch PS3s USB ports started failing and Sony charged me $180 to fix it. Both of the second consoles I purchased have run error free thus far. So it's not just MS who had trouble with launch consoles, and at least they fixed my issue for free. Sony on the other hand...
Nope when ME came it it was M$ when the 360 had/has a 30% fail rate its M$ when they released Vista to only get rid it after 4 years its M$.

Trust us...they have earned it....

151.12.2008 13:36

Quote:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
the main reason one has not been made is because gaming is not consumer friendly,its only focused on profit not stable,solid and customizable products...
I respectfully disagree with this. As a reformed PC gamer I can say that a HUGE appeal of consoles to me is that they ARE user friendly! I started PC gaming when the best FPS was Wolf3D, back then controls were a cinch. As controls became more and more complicated I soon found myself spending the first twenty minutes of a new game figuring out which new "keys" I actually would end up needing and which key/button I needed to map it to, i.e. do I really need a flashlight, how important is zoom, do i use my mouse 3 for reload or alternate fire? And then after about twenty minutes I'd have to spend another 10 in there redoing it all after I found out I did need the flashlight and reaching over to "f" each time wasn't going to cut it. And that's glossing over the other issues PC gaming brought (installs and incompatibilities).

With a console I adore popping in the newest game and almost immediately being able to fire it up. Each console game manages to pack in all those broken PC controls I'd have to spend my time remapping literally at my finger tips. For the most part I wouldn't want to change a thing. That is the definition of "consumer friendly". I want to spend my precious free time gaming, not figuring out how to setup the controls.

I do agree, in a perfect world allowing a gamer to remap their controls on the console would be a good thing. Those who want to would be able to, and those who didn't wouldn't have to. We'd all win. But in this imperfect world we live in, give me console controls or give me nothing. That issue alone is the largest reason I've given up on PC gaming. I haven't fired up more than a demo on the PC in several years now.
There is a reason why PC gamers are, as a whole, more sophisticated than your average console kid. Consoles are for the masses..dumbed down..easy to get into and devoid of complicated setups. I cant imagine how they would go about making the witcher control scheme on a console..total nightmare. Same with any of the old school games like Ultima 7, Fallout, Thief II: The Metal Age, etc. But then again with consoles you have the RROD, which they STILL have not fixed. And you have hard drives for the xflop that are three times as much as a pc hard drive, even though the tech is the same.

No thanks. PC gaming will always reign supreme.

161.12.2008 13:39

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
the main reason one has not been made is because gaming is not consumer friendly,its only focused on profit not stable,solid and customizable products...
I respectfully disagree with this. As a reformed PC gamer I can say that a HUGE appeal of consoles to me is that they ARE user friendly! I started PC gaming when the best FPS was Wolf3D, back then controls were a cinch. As controls became more and more complicated I soon found myself spending the first twenty minutes of a new game figuring out which new "keys" I actually would end up needing and which key/button I needed to map it to, i.e. do I really need a flashlight, how important is zoom, do i use my mouse 3 for reload or alternate fire? And then after about twenty minutes I'd have to spend another 10 in there redoing it all after I found out I did need the flashlight and reaching over to "f" each time wasn't going to cut it. And that's glossing over the other issues PC gaming brought (installs and incompatibilities).

With a console I adore popping in the newest game and almost immediately being able to fire it up. Each console game manages to pack in all those broken PC controls I'd have to spend my time remapping literally at my finger tips. For the most part I wouldn't want to change a thing. That is the definition of "consumer friendly". I want to spend my precious free time gaming, not figuring out how to setup the controls.

I do agree, in a perfect world allowing a gamer to remap their controls on the console would be a good thing. Those who want to would be able to, and those who didn't wouldn't have to. We'd all win. But in this imperfect world we live in, give me console controls or give me nothing. That issue alone is the largest reason I've given up on PC gaming. I haven't fired up more than a demo on the PC in several years now.
There is a reason why PC gamers are, as a whole, more sophisticated than your average console kid. Consoles are for the masses..dumbed down..easy to get into and devoid of complicated setups. I cant imagine how they would go about making the witcher control scheme on a console..total nightmare. Same with any of the old school games like Ultima 7, Fallout, Thief II: The Metal Age, etc. But then again with consoles you have the RROD, which they STILL have not fixed. And you have hard drives for the xflop that are three times as much as a pc hard drive, even though the tech is the same.

No thanks. PC gaming will always reign supreme.
Bad example the whitcher would have been more streamlined control and menu wise..on the PC IT IS A NIGHTMARE!!! LOL

171.12.2008 18:09

Quote:
There is a reason why PC gamers are, as a whole, more sophisticated than your average console kid. Consoles are for the masses..dumbed down..easy to get into and devoid of complicated setups. I cant imagine how they would go about making the witcher control scheme on a console..total nightmare. Same with any of the old school games like Ultima 7, Fallout, Thief II: The Metal Age, etc. But then again with consoles you have the RROD, which they STILL have not fixed. And you have hard drives for the xflop that are three times as much as a pc hard drive, even though the tech is the same.

No thanks. PC gaming will always reign supreme.
While I agree that there arent as many of those dense little kids on PC games as a result of it being harder to setup games and maintain a high level gaming PC, which is a major plus; I'd have to disagree with the masses of console users being "dumbed down". I've built and setup all my computers myself from the ground up and I prefer console gaming. Why? because I don't want to have to work to keep the thing running at its full potential as much as I get to game. Also they are generally a lot more expensive for (generally) the same results you would get from a console anyway. When I've already payed for my games, I don't think I should have to deal with more work, stress, frustration and wasted time when I'm suppose to be chillaxing, and playing the game.

For the purity of gaming you shouldn't have to worry about the hardware/software you're using, just the gameplay itself.

181.12.2008 20:34

Ahhhh sweet! Im looking to get a 360 for Xmas (since mine red ringed)and now i know what to look for. Good find kids. May your turkey be stuffed and your women just as plump ;)

192.12.2008 9:51

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There is a reason why PC gamers are, as a whole, more sophisticated than your average console kid. Consoles are for the masses..dumbed down..easy to get into and devoid of complicated setups. I cant imagine how they would go about making the witcher control scheme on a console..total nightmare. Same with any of the old school games like Ultima 7, Fallout, Thief II: The Metal Age, etc. But then again with consoles you have the RROD, which they STILL have not fixed. And you have hard drives for the xflop that are three times as much as a pc hard drive, even though the tech is the same.

No thanks. PC gaming will always reign supreme.
While I agree that there arent as many of those dense little kids on PC games as a result of it being harder to setup games and maintain a high level gaming PC, which is a major plus; I'd have to disagree with the masses of console users being "dumbed down". I've built and setup all my computers myself from the ground up and I prefer console gaming. Why? because I don't want to have to work to keep the thing running at its full potential as much as I get to game. Also they are generally a lot more expensive for (generally) the same results you would get from a console anyway. When I've already payed for my games, I don't think I should have to deal with more work, stress, frustration and wasted time when I'm suppose to be chillaxing, and playing the game.

For the purity of gaming you shouldn't have to worry about the hardware/software you're using, just the gameplay itself.
Good points made. I would also like to make a comment in response to the console issue such as RROD that was mentioned. RROD should have never happened in the first place but from a reality stance you cant act like PC's dont have their own hardware issues as well and are more prone to viruses and such. But as Canuckerz said PC gaming is not as hassle free as a console and to me not worth the time or money to the average person. I download a lot on my desktop and then use my laptop for browsing online and various other things. PC gaming definitely wouldnot benefit me as times my wife is online or using the computer to write papers from graduate school so having a console means i dont have to wait to play my games. Computers can be used for so much but really, there are more conveniant gadgets out there. Example if i want to watch a movie i dont watch on pc, I bought a LCD and have a DVD player. If i want to listen to music i could use my laptop/desktop but lets be real i have a stereo, cd's, and a MP3 player that i carry everywhere even use it with my stereo and in my truck as i have a MP3 input jack standard. Its all about easy access and what is most appealing to that person.

Pro choice is my opinion. Console or PC? Whatever fits your fancy.

202.12.2008 10:17

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There is a reason why PC gamers are, as a whole, more sophisticated than your average console kid. Consoles are for the masses..dumbed down..easy to get into and devoid of complicated setups. I cant imagine how they would go about making the witcher control scheme on a console..total nightmare. Same with any of the old school games like Ultima 7, Fallout, Thief II: The Metal Age, etc. But then again with consoles you have the RROD, which they STILL have not fixed. And you have hard drives for the xflop that are three times as much as a pc hard drive, even though the tech is the same.

No thanks. PC gaming will always reign supreme.
While I agree that there arent as many of those dense little kids on PC games as a result of it being harder to setup games and maintain a high level gaming PC, which is a major plus; I'd have to disagree with the masses of console users being "dumbed down". I've built and setup all my computers myself from the ground up and I prefer console gaming. Why? because I don't want to have to work to keep the thing running at its full potential as much as I get to game. Also they are generally a lot more expensive for (generally) the same results you would get from a console anyway. When I've already payed for my games, I don't think I should have to deal with more work, stress, frustration and wasted time when I'm suppose to be chillaxing, and playing the game.

For the purity of gaming you shouldn't have to worry about the hardware/software you're using, just the gameplay itself.
Good points made. I would also like to make a comment in response to the console issue such as RROD that was mentioned. RROD should have never happened in the first place but from a reality stance you cant act like PC's dont have their own hardware issues as well and are more prone to viruses and such. But as Canuckerz said PC gaming is not as hassle free as a console and to me not worth the time or money to the average person. I download a lot on my desktop and then use my laptop for browsing online and various other things. PC gaming definitely wouldnot benefit me as times my wife is online or using the computer to write papers from graduate school so having a console means i dont have to wait to play my games. Computers can be used for so much but really, there are more conveniant gadgets out there. Example if i want to watch a movie i dont watch on pc, I bought a LCD and have a DVD player. If i want to listen to music i could use my laptop/desktop but lets be real i have a stereo, cd's, and a MP3 player that i carry everywhere even use it with my stereo and in my truck as i have a MP3 input jack standard. Its all about easy access and what is most appealing to that person.

Pro choice is my opinion. Console or PC? Whatever fits your fancy.
There is something to be said for PC qaulity but frankly looking at qaulity devs the only thing the PC has over consoles is cheating via trainers and more control options mouse/KB,any number of game pad and stick choices, consoles IMO are plagued by bad control and worse control options this plus the cost has driven me away from modern console gaming as development is streamlined and rushed to get the project out to make money for the publisher more than anything else.

While we have a variety of games and systems we don't really have choices or rather yet options that make the choice that much better.

212.12.2008 17:48

Well you can throw me in with the rest of the [Quote] [actor who plays red from that 70's show] *dumbass* console gamers,i just went a bought a premodded 60GB 360 with full warranty,finally i get to play halo3,yippee

222.12.2008 18:41

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Well you can throw me in with the rest of the [Quote] [actor who plays red from that 70's show] *dumbass* console gamers,i just went a bought a premodded 60GB 360 with full warranty,finally i get to play halo3,yippee
Well just because you are woolie for something dose not make you dumb, merely busy, you brought premodded with a chip anything more? the more after market stuff you put on it the more wool you lose.

The market it self is woolie as its focused on making a profit from the least effort so everythign main stream is happened by devs that are rushed publishers only looking at the short profit window and consumers that put up with it, one is part of society if one can ignore its flaws.

I see the flaws I done the black paint and tin foil hat of the jaded sheeple and welcome it for the alternative is quite boring and not nearly as entertaining*evil grin*.

But alas the times they change gaming was enthusiast focused now its mainstream and rank wit all the issues of mainstream disposable media, the PC industry is now 2nd to the console industry its far from dead and has not waned since you have more publishers and devs working on it but they are of varying qaulity the price has gone up across the board and qaulity in total product gone down but still its a huge industry and publishers are bullying for more prowess, so find your poison you are willing to pay for and drink it up and enjoy it....life will jade you yet....


..oh and haz a nice day :P

232.12.2008 19:15

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Well you can throw me in with the rest of the [Quote] [actor who plays red from that 70's show] *dumbass* console gamers,i just went a bought a premodded 60GB 360 with full warranty,finally i get to play halo3,yippee
Well just because you are woolie for something dose not make you dumb, merely busy, you brought premodded with a chip anything more? the more after market stuff you put on it the more wool you lose.

The market it self is woolie as its focused on making a profit from the least effort so everythign main stream is happened by devs that are rushed publishers only looking at the short profit window and consumers that put up with it, one is part of society if one can ignore its flaws.

I see the flaws I done the black paint and tin foil hat of the jaded sheeple and welcome it for the alternative is quite boring and not nearly as entertaining*evil grin*.

But alas the times they change gaming was enthusiast focused now its mainstream and rank wit all the issues of mainstream disposable media, the PC industry is now 2nd to the console industry its far from dead and has not waned since you have more publishers and devs working on it but they are of varying qaulity the price has gone up across the board and qaulity in total product gone down but still its a huge industry and publishers are bullying for more prowess, so find your poison you are willing to pay for and drink it up and enjoy it....life will jade you yet....


..oh and haz a nice day :P

I actually don't own it yet the money needs to clear the online payment first,it should be here by saturday *fingers crossed*,the company replaces the liteon drive with the flashable one,you have the option of purchasing the original drive as an extra,it sux that these 360's can't have the extender kits installed like the old xboxes to allow an extra 2 hdd's to be installed to play games directly,sad to say ms broke the mould after the xbox 1,it's a cry'n shame my two old poxy xbox 1's are what the 360's should've been..lol..

http://www.modz.co.nz/index.php?page=sho...emart&Itemid=26


EDIT-forgot to add : it should be interesting to see if the graphics or even just the games themselves are a step above the shall we say more advanced xbox 1 coded games like halo etc although a little bit jittery at times in the game play of those older games,i've often wondered if the 360 or even the PS3 was really that much better since it's still two dimensional,what really sux is i don't have a decent tv,still got a 29" crt D'oh..lol..
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242.12.2008 19:26

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Well you can throw me in with the rest of the [Quote] [actor who plays red from that 70's show] *dumbass* console gamers,i just went a bought a premodded 60GB 360 with full warranty,finally i get to play halo3,yippee
Well just because you are woolie for something dose not make you dumb, merely busy, you brought premodded with a chip anything more? the more after market stuff you put on it the more wool you lose.

The market it self is woolie as its focused on making a profit from the least effort so everythign main stream is happened by devs that are rushed publishers only looking at the short profit window and consumers that put up with it, one is part of society if one can ignore its flaws.

I see the flaws I done the black paint and tin foil hat of the jaded sheeple and welcome it for the alternative is quite boring and not nearly as entertaining*evil grin*.

But alas the times they change gaming was enthusiast focused now its mainstream and rank wit all the issues of mainstream disposable media, the PC industry is now 2nd to the console industry its far from dead and has not waned since you have more publishers and devs working on it but they are of varying qaulity the price has gone up across the board and qaulity in total product gone down but still its a huge industry and publishers are bullying for more prowess, so find your poison you are willing to pay for and drink it up and enjoy it....life will jade you yet....


..oh and haz a nice day :P

I actually don't own it yet the money needs to clear the online payment first,it should be here by saturday *fingers crossed*,the company replaces the liteon drive with the flashable one,you have the option of purchasing the original drive as an extra,it sux that these 360's can't have the extender kits installed like the old xboxes to allow an extra 2 hdd's to be installed to play games directly,sad to say ms broke the mould after the xbox 1,it's a cry'n shame my two old poxy xbox 1's are what the 360's should've been..lol..

http://www.modz.co.nz/index.php?page=sho...emid=26


Mmmmm So they are charging 600 for a flashed 360 with no chip??

252.12.2008 19:36

Yeah i know what you're say'n,since it can be bought from the local store unflashed for NZ $150.00 cheaper,tho that would mean having to get a drive for it then opening it up & destroying any warranty so it's a bit of give n take,if it was'nt for the fact that they keep warranty intact i would'nt have bothered.

262.12.2008 19:41

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
Yeah i know what you're say'n,since it can be bought from the local store unflashed for NZ $150.00 cheaper,tho that would mean having to get a drive for it then opening it up & destroying any warranty so it's a bit of give n take,if it was'nt for the fact that they keep warranty intact i would'nt have bothered.
Ah I was thinking meh 150ish probably worth the cash if you got it, so whats the total about 500ish USD? I guess a chip or refined hack is worth 30% of the normal price,plus your getting a a jasper unit off the bat thats worth 50 at least right there its alil step about 100-200 more than what I would pay if I had 600 to blow but frankly its not that bad.... going to try and save up 500 try and get a shiped unit this year.....er...next year that or a chiped WII the PS3 dose not interest me that much yet and at least the 360 has some form of mouse/KB adapter...

272.12.2008 19:55

In USA dollars with our sickly exchange rate at the mo it would be 1/2 price,don't that just make ya wanna throw a wobbly,no it's a bloody falcon mobo,we have'nt got any jaspers here yet,i asked them that before i ordered it,i could've waited a bit longer a got a jasper & waited a bit more till the price dropped further,but the 360's been call'n me since it first appeared on the market,i just could'nt take it any longer,it is overpriced no doubt about it even with any labour added to fit the flashed drive etc,if i'm not mistaken they've added an xtra $100 dollars for the dvd drive & they're keeping the original..lol..bastards

Just recieved an order change email,it'll be sent tommorrow so comming from New Plymouth to Auckland should take two days,too late to cancel order now..lol..

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282.12.2008 20:08

Originally posted by scorpNZ:
In USA dollars with our sickly exchange rate at the mo it would be 1/2 price,don't that just make ya wanna throw a wobbly,no it's a bloody falcon mobo,we have'nt got any jaspers here yet,i asked them that before i ordered it,i could've waited a bit longer a got a jasper & waited a bit more till the price dropped further,but the 360's been call'n me since it first appeared on the market,i just could'nt take it any longer,it is overpriced no doubt about it even with any labour added to fit the flashed drive etc,if i'm not mistaken they've added an xtra $100 dollars for the dvd drive & they're keeping the original..lol..bastards

Just recieved an order change email,it'll be sent tommorrow so comming from New Plymouth to Auckland should take two days,too late to cancel order now..lol..
Ah so its 350ish even better ..well if your economy/payscale can match it that is LOL

well frankly from fixing a few untis.... its worth 100ish$ to not have to fool with it ><

292.12.2008 20:22

Quote:
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
In USA dollars with our sickly exchange rate at the mo it would be 1/2 price,don't that just make ya wanna throw a wobbly,no it's a bloody falcon mobo,we have'nt got any jaspers here yet,i asked them that before i ordered it,i could've waited a bit longer a got a jasper & waited a bit more till the price dropped further,but the 360's been call'n me since it first appeared on the market,i just could'nt take it any longer,it is overpriced no doubt about it even with any labour added to fit the flashed drive etc,if i'm not mistaken they've added an xtra $100 dollars for the dvd drive & they're keeping the original..lol..bastards

Just recieved an order change email,it'll be sent tommorrow so comming from New Plymouth to Auckland should take two days,too late to cancel order now..lol..
Ah so its 350ish even better ..well if your economy/payscale can match it that is LOL

well frankly from fixing a few untis.... its worth 100ish$ to not have to fool with it ><

Aw yeah seeing the trouble people get themselves into just to save a few bucks & end up stuffing it up...lol..i have to admit tho i would prefer a modchip, i'm not sure if these flashed boxes are gonna be reliable or not as i've never had a flashed unit of any sort(had to be careful of my wording there *mutley laugh*),i just recently bought two xbox 1's as backups to my other two modded ones & was going to have a go at flashing,however the more i read up on it on how to go about it, the more it gives me the shits so i'm going hardmod road instead at least i know it'll be reliable

I'm self employed domestic/commercial lawnmowing contractor so right now we're in spring,if i'm going to spend money it needs to be before xmas ,coz afterwards i need to replenish the accounts to get me thru winter when work tends to drop off,although here in Auckland the rainy season is'nt that bad so in that respect we're quite lucky compared to some other parts of NZ which are low lying or any other parts of the world where flooding is the norm
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302.12.2008 20:31

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by scorpNZ:
In USA dollars with our sickly exchange rate at the mo it would be 1/2 price,don't that just make ya wanna throw a wobbly,no it's a bloody falcon mobo,we have'nt got any jaspers here yet,i asked them that before i ordered it,i could've waited a bit longer a got a jasper & waited a bit more till the price dropped further,but the 360's been call'n me since it first appeared on the market,i just could'nt take it any longer,it is overpriced no doubt about it even with any labour added to fit the flashed drive etc,if i'm not mistaken they've added an xtra $100 dollars for the dvd drive & they're keeping the original..lol..bastards

Just recieved an order change email,it'll be sent tommorrow so comming from New Plymouth to Auckland should take two days,too late to cancel order now..lol..
Ah so its 350ish even better ..well if your economy/payscale can match it that is LOL

well frankly from fixing a few untis.... its worth 100ish$ to not have to fool with it ><

Aw yeah seeing the trouble people get themselves into just to save a few bucks & end up stuffing it up...lol..i have to admit tho i would prefer a modchip, i'm not sure if these flashed boxes are gonna be reliable or not as i've never had a flashed unit of any sort(had to be careful of my wording there *mutley laugh*),i just recently bought two xbox 1's as backups to my other two modded ones & was going to have a go at flashing,however the more i read up on it on how to go about it, the more it gives me the shits so i'm going hardmod road instead at least i know it'll be reliable

I'm self employed domestic/commercial lawnmowing contractor so right now we're in spring,if i'm going to spend money it needs to be before xmas ,coz afterwards i need to replenish the accounts to get me thru winter when work tends to drop off,although here in Auckland the rainy season is'nt that bad so in that respect we're quite lucky compared to some other parts of NZ which are low lying or any other parts of the world where flooding is the norm
*nods nods* at least with the flash you can pop it into a cheap working 360... 0-o

313.12.2008 12:42

and consoles are still devoid of cd keys (Not)securom and Starfraud.

323.12.2008 12:57

Originally posted by DXR88:
and consoles are still devoid of cd keys (Not)securom and Starfraud.
no but linked to a account with PSN/LIVE DRM yes.

333.12.2008 13:09

Quote:
Originally posted by DXR88:
and consoles are still devoid of cd keys (Not)securom and Starfraud.
no but linked to a account with PSN/LIVE DRM yes.
only if you download from live.

343.12.2008 13:16

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Quote:
Originally posted by DXR88:
and consoles are still devoid of cd keys (Not)securom and Starfraud.
no but linked to a account with PSN/LIVE DRM yes.
only if you download from live.
Merely saying all they have to do is force games to 1 account...

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