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Geohot's Limera1n forces delay of GreenPois0n

Written by Andre Yoskowitz (Google+) @ 10 Oct 2010 17:45 User comments (19)

Geohot's Limera1n forces delay of GreenPois0n Yesterday, George "Geohot" Hotz announced the first RC of an untethered jailbreak for all iOS devices, dubbing the jailbreak Limera1n.
The jailbreak works on the iPhone 3GS, iPod Touch 3/4G, iPad, and iPhone 4 but it also apparently spoiled the party for another highly touted jailbreak solution.

Today was supposed to be the release of GreenPois0n, from the Chronic Dev Team, which breaks iOS 4.1 using the SHAtter exploit.

Limra1n, however, uses a different bootrom exploit and Geohot made it clear what that exploit was. Instead of giving Apple a chance to patch both exploits, the Dev Team says it has delayed their SHAtter-based exploit and will instead release one using Geohot's method.

Reads a post from the Chronic Dev Team:

"Thanks to the irresponsible antics of geohot, we will have to delay the release of greenpois0n (new ETA = as soon as possible), so that we have time to clean up his little mess and integrate the exploit he uses in limera1n into greenpois0n. This way, we can save SHAtter for future devices that may still be vulnerable to it.

We know that this is not what some people want to hear, but due to geohot needing to feed his ego (as usual) and revealing his limera1n exploit, we do not have any other responsible options."


Limera1n is still in beta, (and a buggy one at that) whereas GreenPois0n was a completed application.

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19 user comments

110.10.2010 18:27

i really do not like Geohotz after the ps3 scene he just seems like he's an attention wh*re


PUT MINE OUT FIRST! even if its shitty just so i get the attention and who gives a sh*t about the other devs as long as i get the attention

at least he's working on it but i still think it would almost be better if he wasn't

i won't deny i have done simular things but generally it's not a huge thing that thousands will use
and it doesn't undermine the others


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210.10.2010 18:30

geohot is such a bitch...

310.10.2010 18:53

Originally posted by MrPuffin:
i really do not like Geohotz after the ps3 scene he just seems like he's an attention wh*re


PUT MINE OUT FIRST! even if its shitty just so i get the attention and who gives a sh*t about the other devs as long as i get the attention

at least he's working on it but i still think it would almost be better if he wasn't

i won't deny i have done simular things but generally it's not a huge thing that thousands will use
and it doesn't undermine the others

After his release of Blackra1n (a jailbreak tool released just about a year ago) he kinda went fame crazy. A few months ago he deleted his Twitter and posted some comments to get even more attention.
He's talented but he's too far up his own ass.

410.10.2010 19:14

Unlike in the US, he can! Otherwise Apple would be all over him.

510.10.2010 19:56

Originally posted by MrPuffin:
i really do not like Geohotz after the ps3 scene he just seems like he's an attention wh*re


PUT MINE OUT FIRST! even if its shitty just so i get the attention and who gives a sh*t about the other devs as long as i get the attention

at least he's working on it but i still think it would almost be better if he wasn't

i won't deny i have done simular things but generally it's not a huge thing that thousands will use
and it doesn't undermine the others

Apparently if it wasn't for geohot's progress in the PS3 scene earlier this year, there wouldn't have been a jailbreak for the PS3, so I'm thankful of that. Oh so the use of other OS was lost, but may soon be back with the PS3 jailbreak tools... :D

I do agree though, that what he has done this weekend was reckless, but people are only getting pissy about it, because he "conveniently" released his tool a day before chronicdev. He beat chronicdev to it and that's that. Ok, so there are bugs, but every piece of software has bugs in the early stages and its upto early adopters to report bugs so they can be fixed.Usually that's what beta testers are for, but this is one or two people, not a team... >.<

Another thing, why are people getting so worked up about limera1n delaying greenpoison? at the end of the day, the people wanted a new jailbreak for iOS devices that wasn't userland and they got it. What was greenpoison going to do that limera1n doesn't?

People whinge about jailbreaks for new firmware not getting here quick enough, and then when one does everybody moans about it. No wonder he "quit" (will be using that term loosely) in the first place... >.<

Go Geohot, great release!! ^o^
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610.10.2010 19:58

I LOVE Geohot. He rulez jailbreaks and I will definitely donate for his efforts!! Green is an ugly color for dev-team! A little sportsmanship is in order when someone beats you to the finish line!
Kisses for Geohot!!


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710.10.2010 20:09

Originally posted by Playgirl2010:
I LOVE Geohot. He rulez jailbreaks and I will definitely donate for his efforts!! Green is an ugly color for dev-team! A little sportsmanship is in order when someone beats you to the finish line!
Kisses for Geohot!!
What do you mean beat them to the finish line? The asshole released and explained how his exploit worked so they had no other choice but to delay it. What is sportsman like about that? They could have gone and done the same thing but they just decided to use his code instead. Read the whole story first.
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810.10.2010 20:19

Your grammar sucks!


Playgirl2010

910.10.2010 20:27

Originally posted by biglo30:
What do you mean beat them to the finish line, the asshole released and explained how their exploit worked so they had no other choice but to delay it.
Whoa!! I must've missed something then... >.< Linkie to that please?

1010.10.2010 21:18

Originally posted by Link2205:
Originally posted by biglo30:
What do you mean beat them to the finish line, the asshole released and explained how their exploit worked so they had no other choice but to delay it.
Whoa!! I must've missed something then... >.< Linkie to that please?

Sorry I meant he explain what his* exploit was, so now they will use his exploit for now until apple patches it because they already know how it works thanks to him.


1110.10.2010 22:23
Happycampa
Unverified new user

GEOHOT your the best, your jailbreak worked perfectly. No issues at all keep up the good work. Thank for not bullshittinus with "coming soon".

1211.10.2010 1:39

Originally posted by Link2205:
Originally posted by MrPuffin:
i really do not like Geohotz after the ps3 scene he just seems like he's an attention wh*re


PUT MINE OUT FIRST! even if its shitty just so i get the attention and who gives a sh*t about the other devs as long as i get the attention

at least he's working on it but i still think it would almost be better if he wasn't

i won't deny i have done simular things but generally it's not a huge thing that thousands will use
and it doesn't undermine the others

Apparently if it wasn't for geohot's progress in the PS3 scene earlier this year, there wouldn't have been a jailbreak for the PS3, so I'm thankful of that. Oh so the use of other OS was lost, but may soon be back with the PS3 jailbreak tools... :D

I do agree though, that what he has done this weekend was reckless, but people are only getting pissy about it, because he "conveniently" released his tool a day before chronicdev. He beat chronicdev to it and that's that. Ok, so there are bugs, but every piece of software has bugs in the early stages and its upto early adopters to report bugs so they can be fixed.Usually that's what beta testers are for, but this is one or two people, not a team... >.<

Another thing, why are people getting so worked up about limera1n delaying greenpoison? at the end of the day, the people wanted a new jailbreak for iOS devices that wasn't userland and they got it. What was greenpoison going to do that limera1n doesn't?

People whinge about jailbreaks for new firmware not getting here quick enough, and then when one does everybody moans about it. No wonder he "quit" (will be using that term loosely) in the first place... >.<

Go Geohot, great release!! ^o^
You say that he beat chronicdev to the release...in terms of time this is true, but chronicdev actually tested his software to get it working correctly...if he had released an early alpha like geoNot did, he would have released it long ago. As for why people are angry at the chronicdev delay, they knew his software would work correctly and smoothly; unlike GeoSnot's crap.

As for the PS3, he should never have started. It is questionable if he had anything to do with the current break (his code was not included in the first jailbreak devices; it was only added later). In fact, his break REQUIRED linux to work...and the first jailbreaks would not run on any firmware but 3.41.

BTW...this is a much more appropriate picture of him:

1311.10.2010 4:42

Children really need to learn how to play nice. like edited by ddp me no wonder i hate stupid internet users, all they do is complain that their edited by ddp is not big enough.

From what i just read stupid things have happened but how about everyone just work together fix the issues and get it out there for the community. Everyone has lost the definition of Community due to Ego's that can not be contained in 10TB hard drives.

It is actions like this that holds back the internet from getting to the future, Grow up shake hands and get on with it.

Geofag included along with internet users, get your head out of your ass and do something constructive, less time flaming and more time developing.

This message has been edited since its posting. Latest edit was made on 11 Oct 2010 @ 21:45

1411.10.2010 8:23

Originally posted by Link2205:
Apparently if it wasn't for geohot's progress in the PS3 scene earlier this year, there wouldn't have been a jailbreak for the PS3, so I'm thankful of that. Oh so the use of other OS was lost, but may soon be back with the PS3 jailbreak tools... :D

Go Geohot, great release!! ^o^
Ah don't you mean, the PS3 crew who got hold of the Sony PS3dev code to change the standard firmware to a dev PS3 firmware mode.

Actually realeased the jailbreak which really isn't a jail break at all as it simply a mode flick that sony have coded into the firmware that that didn't happen then you couldn't use it at all.

1511.10.2010 13:08

Originally posted by xtago:
Ah don't you mean, the PS3 crew who got hold of the Sony PS3dev code to change the standard firmware to a dev PS3 firmware mode.

Actually realeased the jailbreak which really isn't a jail break at all as it simply a mode flick that sony have coded into the firmware that that didn't happen then you couldn't use it at all.

I know what I mean... :P

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1611.10.2010 14:53

Quote:
Children really need to learn how to play nice. like edited by ddp me no wonder i hate stupid internet users, all they do is complain that their edited by ddp is not big enough.

From what i just read stupid things have happened but how about everyone just work together fix the issues and get it out there for the community. Everyone has lost the definition of Community due to Ego's that can not be contained in 10TB hard drives.

It is actions like this that holds back the internet from getting to the future, Grow up shake hands and get on with it.

Geofag included along with internet users, get your head out of your ass and do something constructive, less time flaming and more time developing.
Very well said.
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1711.10.2010 18:43

I'm pretty sure that it was said somewhere that the SHAtter jailbreak was permanent and un-patchable (greenpo1son website I think) so if I'm right this outburst shouldn't really matter anyway, right?




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1811.10.2010 21:06

Originally posted by Mysttic:
Quote:
Children really need to learn how to play nice. like edited by ddp me no wonder i hate stupid internet users, all they do is complain that their edited by ddp is not big enough.

From what i just read stupid things have happened but how about everyone just work together fix the issues and get it out there for the community. Everyone has lost the definition of Community due to Ego's that can not be contained in 10TB hard drives.

It is actions like this that holds back the internet from getting to the future, Grow up shake hands and get on with it.

Geofag included along with internet users, get your head out of your ass and do something constructive, less time flaming and more time developing.
Very well said.
Thank you, As a developer myself. I hate to see children fighting over who gets on the credit list first, Open Source community i guess is rare these days/
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1912.10.2010 18:21
Jailbreakingfan1996
Unverified new user

Geohot is like....well,Im not giving that B*tch a name, that fa**ot, Dumb*ss was too stupid, Green Pois0n was a complete app where limerain was a beta f*** you geohot f*** you

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