Apple boots 'anti-gay' app from App Store

Thats gayer than AIDS.

its ok there are plenty of tv evangelists who can still give them salvation for a little bit of money :)

I can't say that I supported what this app said, but I did support their right to say it. I don't support the communist party or the fascist party either, but you won't see me trying to prevent democrats and republicans from talking. I might dispute their obvious lies, but I will at least let them speak. The fact that a site setup by the Obama administration is fighting free speech is sickening, depressing, and a slap in the face...unfortunately, I can't really say it is a surprise.

Originally posted by KillerBug:

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I can't say that I supported what this app said, but I did support their right to say it. I don't support the communist party or the fascist party either, but you won't see me trying to prevent democrats and republicans from talking. I might dispute their obvious lies, but I will at least let them speak. The fact that a site setup by the Obama administration is fighting free speech is sickening, depressing, and a slap in the face...unfortunately, I can't really say it is a surprise.

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While you are certainly right that free speech is not negotiable in the free world, there are a few things to take into account. This app was shown to be twisting legitimate research in an attempt to gain a false legitimacy. On top of that, saying you can cure people of homosexuality as if it was simply on par with other mental conditions is also false information. Now obviously its fine for me to "claim" that I can "cure" gay people, but to market it on the public free market (which is what App Store is) and twist legitimate scientific studies to bolster my product (which is again, what it is) is not covered by free speech.

Not only should Apple have a problem with such an illegitimate product, but even the relevant medical associations in the United States and other regions it is available in should take action against it.

It's like how every so often you hear about these raids on "herbal medicine" sites etc. Usually its painted as big pharma going after the little guy with the "real natural medicine" but in reality its the unfounded claims that the sellers make that their products can cure anything from Swine Flu to Cancer, and that's also not covered by free speech once it is a product on the market.

Also, it's worth remembering that the App Store has an extensive list of terms and conditions that developers must abide by and it will prohibit racist, sexist and/or discriminatory content, and some gay people seem to be offended by the persistence of anti-gay organizations to paint their sexuality as a condition that needs to be cured in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

So basically I wouldn't get on Apple's back too much about this one, and I completely support free speech too.

Originally posted by Dela:

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Originally posted by KillerBug:

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I can't say that I supported what this app said, but I did support their right to say it. I don't support the communist party or the fascist party either, but you won't see me trying to prevent democrats and republicans from talking. I might dispute their obvious lies, but I will at least let them speak. The fact that a site setup by the Obama administration is fighting free speech is sickening, depressing, and a slap in the face...unfortunately, I can't really say it is a surprise.

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While you are certainly right that free speech is not negotiable in the free world, there are a few things to take into account. This app was shown to be twisting legitimate research in an attempt to gain a false legitimacy. On top of that, saying you can cure people of homosexuality as if it was simply on par with other mental conditions is also false information. Now obviously its fine for me to "claim" that I can "cure" gay people, but to market it on the public free market (which is what App Store is) and twist legitimate scientific studies to bolster my product (which is again, what it is) is not covered by free speech.

Not only should Apple have a problem with such an illegitimate product, but even the relevant medical associations in the United States and other regions it is available in should take action against it.

It's like how every so often you hear about these raids on "herbal medicine" sites etc. Usually its painted as big pharma going after the little guy with the "real natural medicine" but in reality its the unfounded claims that the sellers make that their products can cure anything from Swine Flu to Cancer, and that's also not covered by free speech once it is a product on the market.

Also, it's worth remembering that the App Store has an extensive list of terms and conditions that developers must abide by and it will prohibit racist, sexist and/or discriminatory content, and some gay people seem to be offended by the persistence of anti-gay organizations to paint their sexuality as a condition that needs to be cured in spite of all the evidence to the contrary.

So basically I wouldn't get on Apple's back too much about this one, and I completely support free speech too.

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I disagree. Apple clearly caved in to a highly organized special interest group that has no respect for truth. They seek only to suppress viewpoints that differ from their own. They challenge the use of scientific findings but remain in absolute denial that there is no scientific evidence to support their "born this way" ideology. There is no such thing as a "gay" gene to account for homosexual behavior. The Exodus International app did not contain any information that was hateful. The focus of the information was on respect for the individual and support for their families. You are free to disagree, but to distort the facts in order to promote your position is fraud by every definition of the word. Apple should be ashamed.

eh. Apple is gay.