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| ogryzek (Member) 5 July 2007 20:15 |
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And just to remind everybody just who this hated RIAA is...
Warner Music (US), EMI (UK), Vivendi Universal (France) and Sony BMG (Japan / Germany)
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| Jasper44 (Member) 5 July 2007 20:22 |
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I could care less. I don't listen to the radio anyway.
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| SamNz (Newbie) 6 July 2007 1:28 |
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LONG LIVE TORRENTS AND P2P thats all i have to say fck the RIAA
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| Bubba1982 (Senior Member) 6 July 2007 2:20 |
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if the RIAA are successful and all of a sudden it is expected that people are to pay for normal radio it will finally open the pc illiterate peoples eyes to the evil that is going on. It will be the end of the RIAA because at the moment it is only the pirates and pc friendly people out there that know of the riaa
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| SProdigy (Member) 6 July 2007 7:15 |
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Broadcast TV works differently, since the major networks (NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX) typically OWN the content in which they air. For the content they do not own, for example the NFL, the NFL rakes in billions of dollars from the network, since the network will make it all back through advertising, etc.
Now for radio. RIAA owns the content. Clear Channel owns the airwaves (and most of them throughout the country.) Which is bigger? I think it hurts the RIAA more in the end, than it does Clear Channel. How hard would it be for Clear Channel to "blacklist" the RIAA artists, and make deals with indy bands? Guess what, the music we are now introduced through the air are no longer from the RIAA. Music played in the clubs, usually run by local radio stations, no longer RIAA. RIAA is cracking down on internet radio as well. So how does their music get heard other than P2P or iTunes? Short answer: it doesn't.
The RIAA really thinks they can squeeze another dollar out of the industry, when in fact, they will shrink their industry even more. If Clear Channel owns the new artists and make them popular, then RIAA has no legs. Even Sirius or XM may realize that "Clear Channel Bands" are more popular and dump the RIAA labels. I see a huge chain reaction, and considering the current state of traditional media, I don't see why radio stations need to comply with the RIAA.
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| maryjayne (Junior Member) 6 July 2007 8:06 |
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I guess I now have a list of 133 musicians to boycott as well as not buying CDs. I actually enjoy internet radio as I would rather pick which genre of music that I listen rather having to choose between the few radio stations that I get on the radio.
The RIAA is only hurting themselves as the music they are trying to push on society will slowly be ignored.
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| HxCMANIAC (Newbie) 6 July 2007 12:55 |
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most of the bands i listen to arent even played on the radio. so it doesnt really matter to me, but this is ridiculous
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| cousin80 (Member) 6 July 2007 13:07 |
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Who are the 133 musicians?
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| georgeluv (Member) 6 July 2007 13:52 |
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capitalism. land of the "FREE" aint turing out to be so free huh?
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| DXR88 (Senior Member) 6 July 2007 14:38 |
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Lets SAve some money. Email al-quida an tell them to blow RIAA head quarters of the face of amarica. i would say about a million dollers should do. for an extra million mabe we could get rid off MPAA too.
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| DXR88 (Senior Member) 6 July 2007 14:38 |
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Lets SAve some money. Email al-quida an tell them to blow RIAA head quarters of the face of amarica. i would say about a million dollers should do. for an extra million mabe we could get rid off MPAA too.
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| juanpollo (Newbie) 6 July 2007 15:57 |
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Originally posted by DXR88: Lets SAve some money. Email al-quida an tell them to blow RIAA head quarters of the face of amarica. i would say about a million dollers should do. for an extra million mabe we could get rid off MPAA too.
Took the words out of my mouth.
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| craftyzan (Member) 6 July 2007 18:13 |
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Two words. "Over sea". People are gonna be shoutcasting overseas, the same way the Pirate Bay is hosting Torrents, we are going to be seeing possibly Torrent Radio perhaps, or more Pirate Radio. There will be life and music after legal broadcast Internet radio...LOL!
http://www.engadget.com/2004/06/15/how-t...n-with-an-ipod/
http://radio.about.com/od/pirateradi1/Pi...d_Broadcast.htm
What effects us in America don't effect other nations, and it is too easy to send a playlist overseas. There is the DVD, the tiny hard drive, the CD, you name it. The black market is just gonna go INSANE.
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| DXR88 (Senior Member) 6 July 2007 18:20 |
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CRaftyzan i laugh at that comment there forcing contry after country to jump on there band wagon Even the small ones not even worth mentoning on a map Pressuring a naihboring country is what amarica does best
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 6 July 2007 19:55 |
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Quote:
“the RIAA feels that they are no longer receiving the benefits due to them for allowing radio stations to play their music for free”
“radio stations have been allowed to broadcast music of their choosing without the need to provide royalties to the recording industry or its artists”
Comment:
Yes, they may not pay royalties but the kicker here is the RIAA pays them to play certain songs over and over again, it’s called Pay’Ola and it happens more now then ever before. In the 50’s it was a big deal and was suppose to be abolished, what a farce. Just like new Movies, MPAA, their ways are catching up with them and they aren’t making the money they use to. This is all about spilt milk that they spilt.
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“As of mid-June, 133 musicians and recording industry organizations, including the RIAA have formed a coalition called musicFIRST.”
Comment:
You notice how they put the poor musicians and recording industry first and include the RIAA at the end. This is totally about the RIAA first and foremost they get the big piece of the pie, the talent only gets squat unless they become really big like Mr. Sunglasses Bonehead from U2, as an example.
The bottom line is the RIAA made this system and now that they have poorly mismanaged it they are crying foul, shame on them.
It’s been said that Broadcast TV could be next to go, fine by me I’d much rather watch crap WITHOUT commercials then crap with, basically I’d rather pay then have commercials. This is exactly why SAT radio is kicking @ss on commercial radio plus the sound quality is better too. Now that’s not to say I want commercial radio to go away, I don’t, I’m just not going to use it much so it would have to be community funded to stay alive.
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| compu795 (Newbie) 7 July 2007 6:40 |
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as others have already said, its just greed. artists(i use the word artists very loosely) in todays so called music have as much talent in the whole bodies as i have in my left testicle. i watched part of the bet awards and i have to say "what a bunch of misfits, no talent, fat, ugly, and talentless morrons. prejudiced? no just honest.
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| Mez (Senior Member) 8 July 2007 16:35 |
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They just think the world owes them so much. In reality they have always have taken advantage of who ever. The royalities were due to all their work stimulating talent. Really all they were doing is sitting on their fat asses sucking up the money. Now that talent is not knocking at their door they need to find others to screw.
I don't really care, I listen to burned CDs and my ipod. I really don't like CDs of just one artist. I like a wide mix on CDs and I always use random play on my ipod. Let the junk dealers keep their trash!
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| pmshah (Newbie) 9 July 2007 1:06 |
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Before I buy anything I have to become aware of its existence. One normally hears new albums & songs & music or what ever on the radio. If you hear something you like you go out & buy it.
If the Radio stations would rather go with independent upcoming artists who might be more than willing to allow free use of their creation for the publicity it would generate the RIAA would end in a heap of crap & so would the so called established big name performers.
I look forward to that day.
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| Mez (Senior Member) 9 July 2007 3:18 |
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pmshah, you mean you don't buy random music to see if you like it? Neither does anyone else. Journey experianced a 400% purchase surge after the last episode of the Supranos. It just goes to show some of the classic rock music still has some miles on it but people have to hear it.
The pigs that ate the goose that laid the golden egg did get one thing right. The internet does provide a new broadcast medium. However, I hope artists will opt not to sign with a record lable. With the internet, the RIAA is unnecessary and major expense.
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| maitland (Newbie) 10 July 2007 19:09 |
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Originally posted by cousin80: Who are the 133 musicians?
http://www.musicfirstcoalition.org/#m=1&s=3
...mostly lame asses and has-beens.
Actually, I think this whole thing is great. RIAA and Clear Channel are two of the worst aspects of music in the USA. If they are fighting, then maybe they will kill each other and everyone will win.
~Maitland
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| timchya (Newbie) 14 July 2007 13:38 |
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Quote: they are fighting, then maybe they will kill each other and everyone will win.
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| timchya (Newbie) 14 July 2007 13:42 |
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Quote: they are fighting, then maybe they will kill each other and everyone will win.
hopfully, companies like that are just a nucience. Filled with the corrupt and greedy (as some other have mentions already) who will try to destroy something that people love just to make a couple bucks.
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| timchya (Newbie) 14 July 2007 14:02 |
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| Mez (Senior Member) 15 July 2007 9:08 |
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I would not count them as a nucience, they are more like a plague.
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| timchya (Newbie) 15 July 2007 9:57 |
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an epidemic, i just wish that someone could find a cure...
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| DXR88 (Senior Member) 18 July 2007 19:26 |
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Anybody seen team amarica kinda reminds me of the film actors guild. or F.A.G for short. hehe
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