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28 August 2007 21:32 by James "Dela" Delahunty
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RIAA-style tactics are being employed in Singapore to help stomp out the sharing of Anime content. Odex, one of the largest regional distributors of licensed Japanese anime VCDs, believes that Internet downloading is eating into its profitability. In November of last year, the company claims to have hired U.S.-based BayTSP to help it track downloaders/sharers of Anime in Singapore.
By April 2007, BayTSP had tracked 50 different titles which showed over 400,000 downloads in Singapore alone. Odex decided to get the contact information of 3,000 individuals by IP address (though claims the number targeted is a lot less) and as we previously reported, two ISPs did give in. However, it appears a third case has just run into trouble with a Judge.
Judge Earnest Lau threw the case out, saying that Odex was only a "sub-licensee" from the Japanese firms that created the anime, not an "exclusive licensee." The judge also doubted that Odex had in fact hired BayTSP. "Apart from a bare allegation, there is no evidence that the Plaintiff engaged BayTSP to undertake the tracking of anime downloaders," he wrote.
He continued: "This tracking solution does not appear to be a simple software tool meant for the use of unsophisticated end-users. Even if Go [the Odex director] had operated a supposed software himself, there is nothing to convince me that he possessed the necessary credentials and expertise to operate the tracking solution and interpret its data to the conclusions maintained by him. Moreover, Go is a managing director of the Plaintiff and is ostensibly a businessman in the video distribution trade, a field somewhat removed from internet software investigations."
BayTSP didn't testify on Odex' behalf nor did it supply an affidavit confirming it was hired by the company. However, it has been reported more recently that BayTSP's CEO is now supporting Odex. Just like the RIAA's pre-litigation letters, Odex offers an individual a chance to settle out of court. The company claims that the efforts have brought in only 20% of the cash it has spent on enforcement efforts.
It has also brought in a lot of criticism. Unhappy Anime fans have speculated on public forums about improper motives behind the litigation and some have even issued death threats against people in the company.
Source:
Ars Technica
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| Mestari81 (Newbie) 28 August 2007 21:50 |
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It look like those guys take there anime very seriesly;D
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| sciafb (Newbie) 28 August 2007 22:30 |
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Oh no, ppl sharing cartoons... j/k
I love a lot of animes, but let me just say unless I see them first I can't tell you if I would like them or not and if I would buy the official dvds to support them. Basically, they're dead wrong when it comes to me and for others like myself, if we aren't going to be able to watch it without paying, we won't be paying for it ever and just the same NEVER CARE about it.
I can't count the number of times I've seen an anime from start to finish for free online and actually went out afterward and bought the full box sets. Odex can just shove it, they are completely delusional.
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| thekingo7 (Senior Member) 29 August 2007 4:20 |
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And I'm not user if this really should be made as a point, but what about the people here in the U.S. and I suppose Europe, who have to wait for anime to be "officially" released. Doesn't that kinda screw them over?
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| duckNrun (Member) 29 August 2007 7:58 |
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Originally posted by thekingo7: And I'm not user if this really should be made as a point, but what about the people here in the U.S. and I suppose Europe, who have to wait for anime to be "officially" released. Doesn't that kinda screw them over?
That's of no concern....people living in countries where a product is not being released in a timely fashion, or at all, are at fault for being in that country and not one where they can purchase their desired videos! It's the same for those who buy stuff in one dvd region and then move to another. Why should they get to continue to use their purchased product in a country it was not intended to be used in? If these people were that concerned about being able to continue to use their property then they shouldn't have moved!
Big business may have created a global economy/marketplace but that is for THEIR benefit not the benefit of consumers! They may take your jobs to a third world country but don't you DARE go online-- or even on a trip to that country-- and benefit from the cheaper cost of living by buying your goods at a discount instead of for the higher prices where you live! I mean HOW DARE YOU... you thief scum!
Why should someone in the UK be able to but trainers from a US firm for $49.99 USD instead of the 50 pounds that the ompany says they should pay (and hence doubling the price!). Same goes for music downloads as seen by the rukus against allofmp3.com. This naturally extends to DVD markets and region coding of discs.
Big business will tell you when to buy their product, where, and for how much...after all we are just the consumers and need to remember our 'place'. And the sad thing is this attitude only continues to be ingrained in their heads when people continue shelling out their money for these products and the abusive tactics that go with it.
It's like the guy who always complains about the fast food restaurant serving crappy food... but keeps going back anyways. It tells the business that the standard they have set is the acceptible one and does not need to be improved or changed. After all they are making money doing it this way so where's the incentive to change?
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| windsong (Junior Member) 29 August 2007 9:03 |
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Isn't Singapore where that 17 yr old kid got sentenced to a severe CANING on his ass a few years back for spraying graffiti?...ouch!
Be careful in Singapore!
/snip
"The prisoner is stripped naked and shackled by strong leather straps to a trestle so he is held down in a bent-over position with his buttocks protruding.
He is then punished by a well-built warder wielding a flexible four-foot long length of rattan which has been soaked in water."
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.php?story=20050723021100735
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| thekingo7 (Senior Member) 29 August 2007 15:14 |
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Originally posted by windsong: Isn't Singapore where that 17 yr old kid got sentenced to a severe CANING on his ass a few years back for spraying graffiti?...ouch!
Be careful in Singapore!
/snip
"The prisoner is stripped naked and shackled by strong leather straps to a trestle so he is held down in a bent-over position with his buttocks protruding.
He is then punished by a well-built warder wielding a flexible four-foot long length of rattan which has been soaked in water."
http://www.infoshop.org/inews/article.ph...1100735
i highly applaud that, and I'm 16. I think caning for misdemeanors is a great idea.
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| Unfocused (Junior Member) 29 August 2007 16:53 |
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Originally posted by sciafb:
I love a lot of animes, but let me just say unless I see them first I can't tell you if I would like them or not and if I would buy the official dvds to support them.
Damn straight! They charge so much for the original discs! I need to see before I buy.
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| plazma247 (Newbie) 31 August 2007 9:01 |
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its only brought in 20% of the what they had spent on enforcement, 20% of what £20 - £30 ?????
Thats 20% more than 0% and whos guessing most of the remaining 80% cost was sandwiches at lunch time.
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| Tashammer (Newbie) 2 September 2007 0:15 |
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what would be rather pleasant would be to see some of the Singaporean judges and magistrates ordering the caning of recording industry vexatious litigants AND requesting that the US apply the sentences to American citizens, both individuals and corporations, much like the Yank Wankers expect the world to follow American law.
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| borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 4 September 2007 13:40 |
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Not to surprising if Singapore's main market is animation. However i doubt if people are going to take this serouisly.
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| borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 4 September 2007 13:42 |
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