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...we're all in this together.

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Then why does all the lawsuit money- that has been shrinking lately by the way- only go to the MPAA?

EDIT- Oh, not to mention most/all negotiations are for things that benefit the MPAA while leeching the blood from everyone else?

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...we're all in this together.

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Then why does all the lawsuit money- that has been shrinking lately by the way- only go to the MPAA?

EDIT- Oh, not to mention most/all negotiations are for things that benefit the MPAA while leeching the blood from everyone else?

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I think the "WE" in this case means them, cause I damn sure haven't seen a dime...have you????

They are just trying to sell the Anti-Piracy garbage to ISPs by telling them "Its for your benefit".

However, Bribery is illegal and if the MPAA starts paying ISPs in return for the ISPs help in catching pirates I could see a class-action lawsuit in the making. :P

Peace

They better not f&*K with Roadrunner which is like the only available hi speed internet provider here..and I'll be damn if I use crappy a$$ DSL.

Guess who the real PIRATES are? MPAA of course. If they had their way we would have to float a loan to pay for a theater ticket. It would be cheaper to buy BUCKINGHAM PALACE.

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"Their revenue bases depend on legitimate operations of their networks and more and more they're finding their networks crowded with infringed material, bandwidth space being crowded out," Glickman said, "many of them are actually getting into the content business directly or indirectly. This is not an us-versus-them issue."

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They dont get it do they? an ISP shouldnt care if "bandwidth space [is] being crowded out" when the user pays for that bandwidth (they sometimes do but...)

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"federal regulators should require ISPs to police their networks more proactively for pirated wares."

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Again, why would an ISP choose to hire people or "invest" in expensive pirated file detection software/hardware (which would only be partially effective, and result in lots of false positives). Why would the choose to waste money trying(and failing) to stop piracy when all it would do is drive people to other service providers who dont offer any filtering/monitoring. That would be the last thing any company wants to do, actively throwing money away on filters then loosing even more money on lost customers, sounds like fun.

Piracy may be a large issue (at least to them, as they're the ones who get the money) but they are going about "defeating" it in the totally wrong way, and will never win because of it.

The ISPs are going to end up being the ones that are hurt by this. The majority of my "legitimate" web surfing can be done via a free dial up service. If I can't use my high speed connection ($50) to perform high speed tasks, then I do not need to be paying them (Comcast) for this service.

I'm no legal expert, But would this not go against every privacy policy ISP's have? And therefor be illegal. I thought giving out personal information was against their policies?
But I do know bribery is illegal.

Peace all

Most people only get high speed internet so they can get free music and other downloads. If you don't use P2P you don't need anything faster that 1mg.

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Most people only get high speed internet so they can get free music and other downloads. If you don't use P2P you don't need anything faster that 1mg.

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Not true, that's a generalization. Many people will get it for faster LEGAL downloads. I wonder what connection you have and what you use it for.

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Guess who the real PIRATES are? MPAA of course. If they had their way we would have to float a loan to pay for a theater ticket. It would be cheaper to buy BUCKINGHAM PALACE.

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That wouldn't be a good idea. Have you seen their heating bill? It's huge. Not to mention the costs of having the window cleaner come around. And did you think about the problems caused by a bunch of soldiers in your front yard? The horse poop to start with. Then the soldiers faint and you can guess what that does to their public liability insurance.

No, it's not easy living in Buckingham Palace.

Signed

We

this is a message my my ISP (service electric):

i swear to god if you start playing orwellian overlord on my connection im going to hack my router, stop paying you, and suck your bandwidth dry with like 7 tor nodes.

people, we need to draw the line as consumers.

Does any of this really suprise anyone, I seriously doubt it.
Now I guess the big question is, can all these people who are being sued by the MPAA, turn this around on them.
Because according the this article the MPAA are benefiting from peoples supposed illegal downloads.

I know people that have their computer connected to their widescreen, hi-def TV set and pay $1.95 for a movie every few days which they then watch on the TV et. If that doesn't use band width, I don't know what does.

I guess that every time one of these people watch a paid for movie, their ISP will be turning them in to the MPAA foe excessive bandwidth use and another law suit begins...................

Added note...This is about as logical as holding the automobile companies responsible for being the get-away vehicle from a robbery or the government responsible because a road was used in the get-away.....

You have to understand... The MPAA doesn't need active participation by the ISP's. All they need is an agreement from the ISP's that they "are all in this together". The idea is to make the general public continue to feel like a criminal whenever they watch something from the net.
Right now it's a big gray area so many people see internet movie piracy as something like installing one program on two computers. Sure, your not supposed to do it, but everyone does and what does it hurt?
The MPAA is fighting this mentality and getting the ISP's to be "on their side" is a big win for them.
The ISP's don't have to do a thing.

If the MPAA wants to give money to ISPs to offset the cost then sure I bet they would *rolls eyes*

This is nothing new in my book.

if u cant sue 'em, bribe 'em (hence the well-earned name, MAFIAA)