Originally posted by hughjars:

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Riaa (and the MPAA) cut your losses, kill yourselves.

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"Describe with particularity the economic damage, if any, that the RIAA suffered as a result of the unlawful conduct of each Doe Defendant."

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Originally posted by morguex:

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I'll be following this one to the end.
It'll be very interesting.

I think the RIAA might just have pissed off the wrong person, or at least I hope they did.

Peace all

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Originally posted by duckNrun:

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RIAA et. al.:

take your business model off life support and let it die with dignity.

Those who have listened to the most important person in the economic model, the customer, have benefited from listening and giving them what they want: music in a format that works on all their devices and lets them use their music the way they always have used it.

The market relies on two factors: Sellers bringing goods and customers interested in buying those goods. If their are no goods then nobody wins. If customers are not willing to buy the goods that are brought or not willing to buy those goods at the listed prices then nobody wins.

Final things to consider:
--You cannot fight and win the war on piracy by driving away your paying customer base.
--You can fight but you can never win the war on piracy. Some people will always try to get what they want without paying.
--Supply and demand are affected by the 'black market'. If the market price is too unbearable people will not buy the goods. For those who are not opposed to such concepts these people will turn to the black market to meet their demand.
--Demand is limited and when it comes to black market digital copies supply is limitless. A supply and demand curve fail in the face of this fact. An endless supply and limited demand forces the price point to near zero. Near zero is untenable pricing for most businesses. These facts are not fair but these are the facts
--Those who refuse to face the facts about their business ultimately face a business that fails

The days of taking whatever you can from your customer base has ended. The days where customers give you what they want are upon you. Yes, the days of record profits are over. The gravy train has officially ended. Face the realities of the new music market, aknowledge what your customers are wanting from you, and give them what they want and you will succeed-- maybe not as handsomely as before but you will still exist in the upper tier of societal incomes. Be happy with what you can get.

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Originally posted by duckNrun:

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RIAA et. al.:

take your business model off life support and let it die with dignity.

Those who have listened to the most important person in the economic model, the customer, have benefited from listening and giving them what they want: music in a format that works on all their devices and lets them use their music the way they always have used it.

The market relies on two factors: Sellers bringing goods and customers interested in buying those goods. If their are no goods then nobody wins. If customers are not willing to buy the goods that are brought or not willing to buy those goods at the listed prices then nobody wins.

Final things to consider:
--You cannot fight and win the war on piracy by driving away your paying customer base.
--You can fight but you can never win the war on piracy. Some people will always try to get what they want without paying.
--Supply and demand are affected by the 'black market'. If the market price is too unbearable people will not buy the goods. For those who are not opposed to such concepts these people will turn to the black market to meet their demand.
--Demand is limited and when it comes to black market digital copies supply is limitless. A supply and demand curve fail in the face of this fact. An endless supply and limited demand forces the price point to near zero. Near zero is untenable pricing for most businesses. These facts are not fair but these are the facts
--Those who refuse to face the facts about their business ultimately face a business that fails

The days of taking whatever you can from your customer base has ended. The days where customers give you what they want are upon you. Yes, the days of record profits are over. The gravy train has officially ended. Face the realities of the new music market, aknowledge what your customers are wanting from you, and give them what they want and you will succeed-- maybe not as handsomely as before but you will still exist in the upper tier of societal incomes. Be happy with what you can get.

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Originally posted by JRude:

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I always have held that there is NO JUDICIAL REVIEW in a Court CLERK signing legal papers as a JUDGE should....UNCONSTITUTIONAL! We shall see now, hopefully! ;- )

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According to a motion filed by the Attorney General's office, there are many questions surrounding RIAA tactics, some of which the AG feels may be illegal in Oregon. In fact SafeNet, the company the RIAA pays to find infringers, isn't even licensed to operate in Oregon. The AG argues

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The motion also states that RIAA lawyers have refused to answer questions by the AG's office regarding whether they had engaged in data mining to find "personal and confidential information." Now the Attorney General would like to know "precisely how invasive Plaintiffs' investigation was." Specifically, it says "Plaintiffs may be spying on students who use the University's computer system and may be accessing much more than IP addresses."

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