more desperation

I'd never heard of this site until today but its a cool url that enables you to cue up music or videos.

since the riaa/soundexchange hiked up internet royalty rates we are losing services fast, pandora in the uk has stopped and last fm now sucks big time since it was purchased last year by cbs and their goal now is for charging users to use the service or have adds placed into the middle of songs, online streaming is really starting to suck. do they actually realise if they remove all music except for their manufactured rubbish that they choose to promote, from the public domain ppl will actually purchase their crap?

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Originally posted by nobrainer:

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...do they actually realise if they remove all music except for their manufactured rubbish that they choose to promote, from the public domain ppl will actually purchase their crap?

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I think they DO realize that very thing, hence the fighting and suing of people and sites.. to try to enforce people into purchasing their music.

Maybe you meant to use the word 'think' instead of 'realize' in your sentence?

;-)

Originally posted by duckNrun :

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Originally posted by nobrainer:

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...do they actually realise if they remove all music except for their manufactured rubbish that they choose to promote, from the public domain ppl will actually purchase their crap?

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I think they DO realize that very thing, hence the fighting and suing of people and sites.. to try to enforce people into purchasing their music.

Maybe you meant to use the word 'think' instead of 'realize' in your sentence?

;-)

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lol ty, i wasn't on about downloading illegal works. the record industry has held the monopoly on releasing works to the public and their time as gate keepers is coming to an end as anyone now can release works for free on the net and what the RIAA/Soundechcange/IFPI which are all the same fools btw, the same companies with the same rhetoric and lies, and what they want is total silence on all media except what they promote and if anyone wants to release works they have to go through them.

this can been plainly seen with their recent ruling that gives them the right to collect royalties from ALL works regardless if the artist wants their interference or not.

RIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio

Originally posted by above hyperlink:

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"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/24/141326/870

Originally posted by link:

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"The recent U.S. Copyright Office ruling regarding webcasting designated SoundExchange to collect and distribute to all nonmembers as well as its members. The Librarian of Congress issued his decision with rates and terms to govern the compulsory license for webcasters (Internet-only radio) and simulcastors (retransmissions)." (http://soundexchange.com/faq.html#b4)

"SRCOs (sound recording copyright owners) are subject to a compulsory license for the use of their music...SoundExchange was established to administer the collection and distribution of royalties from such compulsory licenses taken by noninteractive streaming services that use satellite, cable or Internet methods of distribution."
(http://soundexchange.com/faq.html#a4)

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This is what DRM & regional coding is about duckNrun, controlling all media so the gatekeepers get a percentage, its just like the mafia racketeering protection money scam and the companies doing this are listed below in my signature.

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Everyone knocks the RIAA but this is all they ask:

If you want a song, buy it. If you want an album, buy it. Why is that such a horrible thing? They don't stop you from making backup copies or MP3s. CDs cost like $9.99 now a days. Even if you don't want the whole album you can goto to many places and download tracks for $1. Music is more affordable than ever. All they ask is that you not steal it. How is that unfair or unreasonable?

The only bogus thing they've ever done is this SoundExchange thing where they want to collect money for artists who aren't even RIAA members.

Originally posted by atomicxl:

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Everyone knocks the RIAA but this is all they ask:

If you want a song, buy it. If you want an album, buy it. Why is that such a horrible thing? They don't stop you from making backup copies or MP3s. CDs cost like $9.99 now a days. Even if you don't want the whole album you can goto to many places and download tracks for $1. Music is more affordable than ever. All they ask is that you not steal it. How is that unfair or unreasonable?

The only bogus thing they've ever done is this SoundExchange thing where they want to collect money for artists who aren't even RIAA members.

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that's not the only bogus thing they've ever done. the worst thing they do (and they do it both constantly and consistently) is flood the market with the music they want to sell better. they've effectively eliminated all true competition because the average consumer simply doesn't have access to music the riaa didn't deem highly profitable.

why do you think some cd's (i've seen no major-label releases outside of top 40s) only cost $10 now, because they just like us(the consumers) that well? those sort of prices only started after they started talking about how cd sales were dropping like a rock because of rampant downloading, so you be the judge.

their infringement lawsuits and the like are a the only recourse they have to try and hold on to this dying business strategy. as digital distribution ramps up, people will start to buy only the music they actually like rather than settling for a sometimes-unreasonable-facsimile that's actually been in the top 40.

choice should be based on quality rather than quantity

its the silly season again :)