Honestly if it would make the whole industry shut up and drop all their court cases etc. I'd pay an extra 5-10 bucks a month.

^ I don't think it would make a difference. I don't think it would shut them up.

They're really just groping for any kind of money they can squeeze from any kind of excuse they can formulate.

canuckerz: that is exactly what they are wanting you to think, so that's one person the RIAA's won over.

Can't you see this is essentially them wanting to sue (i.e. get money from) EVERYONE who uses the internet, regardless of whether they even "pirate" or not? This is the latest example of how they're criminalizing the WHOLE of society, sounds scary at first but I laugh because actually, almost everyone does pirate now and it will only increase, making their claims look increasingly absurd, desperate and embarrassing.

Pirate tax, can you believe it? Reminds me of Robin Hood - classic example of pure greed. RIAA's record executives are used to roping in millions of dollars in revenues, living lives of opulence from nothing but the hard work of the artists represented under them, and now technology has changed and made them obsolete. Go on, have a cry. Such an outrageous proposal, if true, will not be accepted by Society, I'm afraid.

I like the eida of a net tax for media but only if fair use is made as so you can copy and share anything with in acouple years, freedoms can be balanced with a tax but until they understand that consumer IP/CP infrengment is not a crime things will never end.

in some ways i woulod tend to agree with canuckerz, in the fact that i wouldnt mind paying them $5 a month extra if it shut them up but only if it also allowed me to download whatever the hell i wanted withought having to go to court which is very unlikely. all the pirate tax will go on is funding more lawsuits.

lets say for a second they implement a pirate tax and all the lawsuits and fines stop, everyone with an internet connection would start downloading their tunes for free which would then mean the riaa would want more tax.

if this ever goes through then they have won. if everything stays the same (lawsuits and fines) then the people not dopwnloading music illegally would be paying for all those that are downloading and at the same time nobody would be getting anything in return for their taxes, think about every other tax you pay, local taxes provide you with things like a police and fire service, road taxes give you a road to drive on, school taxes allow your children to go to school (kinda unfair on those without kids but oh well education is more important than music). basically if they dont stop all the fines then we are paying a tax without any public gains, if they do stop all the fines then everyone will use the service and the riaa will demand more and more and more until we are all at a point where we are paying them more in taxes per month than we ever would spend on music.

and one last thing, what about deaf people? surely they shouldnt be made to pay a pirate tax on their internet connection.

Perhaps if this tax is enacted, the RIAA will stop suing everybody.

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Honestly if it would make the whole industry shut up and drop all their court cases etc. I'd pay an extra 5-10 bucks a month.

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I agree but i don't think thats going to stop them.But it would be nice & i would be for it to shut them the hell up.

The media mafia will have to learn to share and not sweat over every little thing and that will never happen...

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Originally posted by canuckerz:

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Honestly if it would make the whole industry shut up and drop all their court cases etc. I'd pay an extra 5-10 bucks a month.

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I agree but i don't think thats going to stop them.But it would be nice & i would be for it to shut them the hell up.

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It would be nice. I don't see it happening. A group like that is always on the prowl for anything that could line their pockets.

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Originally posted by canuckerz:

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Honestly if it would make the whole industry shut up and drop all their court cases etc. I'd pay an extra 5-10 bucks a month.

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I agree but i don't think thats going to stop them.But it would be nice & i would be for it to shut them the hell up.

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What in the hell makes you think people are actually gonna accept paying 5-10 bucks more a month for internet when some of us like me already pay $57 a month. I highly doubt a large tax like that would be implemented. Maybe something like .80 or $1.00. And I really don't see this being able to pass anyways, if the RIAA gets to have a tax on their behalf the Microsoft should be able to have a tax for all the computer owners out there due to there Operating System being pirated. It just sets up the table for other companies alike to introduce their own tax for passing...so I HIGHLY doubt this so- called "tax" will even see the light of day!

Well, I don't mind this if it means that music p2p is now a legal thing.

they'll never legalize it:P

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If downloads became legal, apple would lose a number of customers. Example- Why pay to download .99 cent tracks when its already payed for with the tax. Ten bucks a month to me is a lot of money for the music that I dont listen to, but the 1-2 bucks would be ok.

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If downloads became legal, apple would lose a number of customers. Example- Why pay to download .99 cent tracks when its already payed for with the tax. Ten bucks a month to me is a lot of money for the music that I dont listen to, but the 1-2 bucks would be ok.

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Not really, for profit ventures will have to wise up stop the price fixing and offer not only better qaulity but a border range of music grenes, because they will have to compete with non profits for they will have to shape the fck up or get out of the business.


Media should not be over protected but have a clear 20-50 month lead time to make a profit off the newest vesion of the product they are selling leaving lower bite rates,older versions and unpublished stuff free to share and trade.

where would it end then...every corporation put a new tax on there product and calling everyone thieves...*bleep* them whoever supports that.

tecbot - let's keep the foul language off the forums in future.

The RIAA needs to pay a fee to each and every internet service account holder. Call it a Whining Tax. If we have to listen to their constant crying and moaning, we should get paid for it.

Originally posted by ivymike:

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Perhaps if this tax is enacted, the RIAA will stop suing everybody.

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Not a chance. Even if a tax was passed, the riaa would still sue everyone (they think double,triple dipping is rightous)

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Originally posted by ivymike:

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Perhaps if this tax is enacted, the RIAA will stop suing everybody.

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Not a chance. Even if a tax was passed, the riaa would still sue everyone (they think double,triple dipping is rightous)

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Exactly. Let's face it, if that can dip in consumer's pockets and still dig for infringement and possibly take money there as well, why not? It's just one more way to line pockets, and not ours.

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They need to first of all stop calling it piracy. Call the tax an "internet sharing tax." Because then people can't complain about being taxed since they are not "pirates." Call it a sharing tax or a p2p tax and you are telling people that they are being taxed for the right to share freely. I'll pay $5/month. But that should enable me to download whatever I want from the internet.

It's a done deal.
The RIAA/MPAA and the trial lawyers are closely aligned with the Democrats, so expect this to go into effect in early 2009.

As for appeasing the industry Mafia by giving them this tax, that is ridiculous, based on all available evidence. Give them an inch and they'll take the whole map.

The RIAA should be dismantled, and shut down, both morally, ethically, and righteously.......................PERIOD!!

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It's a done deal.
The RIAA/MPAA and the trial lawyers are closely aligned with the Democrats, so expect this to go into effect in early 2009.

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Sources for this statement?

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It's a done deal.
The RIAA/MPAA and the trial lawyers are closely aligned with the Democrats, so expect this to go into effect in early 2009.

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Makes some sense lawyers want to sue everything not "PC" enough and the republicans want to maintain the status quo of low borne anal probing....

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Sure it makes some sense.

I'm just ever curious. :)

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Sure it makes some sense.

I'm just ever curious. :)

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