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Yea, because they are already "hood rich". ;)

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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.

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Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.

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The most racist people are actually white people, young and old (so get it right). Black people don't have a group such as the "KKK" that spews hate, encourages violence and the destroying of other races. You know what race has group of that nature? White people, so you failed! I'll say it again and sure some mod may not like what I say becuase they're probably white and are gonna mod me (I've been on this site for a while now and support it heavily but some people annoy the crap out of me - and I won't say which particular group either), but white people are racist people BY FAR HANDS DOWN!! "Fact"

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sadly the blacks do have hate groups and give as much as they take on racist and stupid grounds, however because of the PC zero thought police the mentalities are you can't be non white and a racist.

There is more than enough ignorance and petty hate to go around for both sides.

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The key word you failed to pay attention to is the word "MOST," I didn't say that there isn't any black racist, I said "MOST" white people ARE racist. Obviously racist people exist in every race, but I know the majority of racist out there are white. I don't expect a racist person to consider their group of people to be racist which is why you have blinding shades over your eyes. So you failed to provide a valid rebuttal. Go to youtube.com and look at any comment section with black people in the videos and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about, and that's an example of what my point brings. And don't start that "how do you know if they're white crap," because it doesn't take the *PC* genious *thought* *police* to figure out it's some white guy behind his keyboard getting off by making racist remarks. Also, it'd be nice if you named one racist black group and not some made up group you thought of in your head or google'd.

fgamer
Nation of Yahweh,Black panthers(altho thier just a civ group like the klan was...minus the power to kill indacrimanity of coarse), I would name others brother but I hate E dick contests because my package is as big as most of the "discussions" failing it always imanet.

Even tho you said you say you "think most" its sad you think blacks are so pure in this, I call BS look to youtube with the black victimization thats seeping through a quarter of the vids, even if some of it is reasonable gripes most of it is petty ignorance and people bashing.

Also with the prevalent use of derogatory words in pop culture its hard to separate thos that front and diss to be cool from some of the more inbreed members of society.

Rasiscisim is nothing mroe than a form of human pettyness a crutch to lift some up and bring others down, because it lifts some up it will not be an easy thing to be rid of because thos that do it are blinded by fear and the ignorance thats protects them from reality, you want to try and say its all the white man fault keep at it, just add another link of ignorance to your own chains of protection.

BTW if you want to contenuie this do drop me a PM we can rant about the Resident evil 5 and killing the poor black zombies too =^^=.

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Nation of Yahweh,Black panthers(altho thier just a civ group like the klan was...minus the power to kill indacrimanity of coarse), I would name others brother but I hate E dick contests because my package is as big as most of the "discussions" failing it always imanet.

Even tho you said you say you "think most" its sad you think blacks are so pure in this, I call BS look to youtube with the black victimization thats seeping through a quarter of the vids, even if some of it is reasonable gripes most of it is petty ignorance and people bashing.

Also with the prevalent use of derogatory words in pop culture its hard to separate thos that front and diss to be cool from some of the more inbreed members of society.

Rasiscisim is nothing mroe than a form of human pettyness a crutch to lift some up and bring others down, because it lifts some up it will not be an easy thing to be rid of because thos that do it are blinded by fear and the ignorance thats protects them from reality, you want to try and say its all the white man fault keep at it, just add another link of ignorance to your own chains of protection.

BTW if you want to contenuie this do drop me a PM we can rant about the Resident evil 5 and killing the poor black zombies too =^^=.

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If I could actually understand half the words in your comment that'd help tramendously, but unfortunately you might have failed a grade or two in school, because you can't make a legible coherent sentence at all. And the "Nation of Yahweh" group you specified is some group that's made up of a few people that were angry from racist crap done by white people (so you failed again). Also the black panthers were not anti-white the way the KKK are anti-black and anti-minorities. The black panthers actually was an African-American organization established to promote civil rights and self-defense. Only a racist person would actually consider the black panthers to be racist, because they actually were established to protect blacks from all the horrendous vile disgusting crimes that whites committed against blacks. So you actually need to revaluate your position on that. I don't go off of any sypmathy that you refer to, I go off of facts, something that you haven't summoned upon yet!! Now YOUR racism really shows.

fgamer
what facts?
you have gave none backed up none of your statements with any links you assume that numerous stupid comments equate to things being one sided/one way, and to that I call BS.

I'll admit the Nation of Yahweh thing was dumb since I didn't bother to read the details about it, but there again do you really want to get into e dick contest of whos worse?

My point is which you are brushing off because you would rather blame white people than humans for the ills of blacks is my point, thos that cling to racism are not the supposed majority alone, clinging to cultural ways of division breeds it more than saying fck it I wont play the baiting game.

And yes I am stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Gramamr is very difficult for me then again it seems reading comperhention and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of some people.

What I am getting at the core of your argument that most whites are racist is flawed its like saying most religious people are ignorant, most people are just that people busy with their day to day lives racisim, sexisim, reading comperhention/comperhention, critical thinking/thinking are beyond them for practical purposes, this dose not mean there is not areas of discontent with X but it goes beyond you petty argument most white folk are ebil thats theres nothing wrong with black folk even if Bill cosby says we got issues...but then looking at modern cultures who dosen't.

Again if I am not making myself clear, you want to make this into a black and white issue when its mutably gray.

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fgamer
what facts?
you have gave none backed up none of your statements with any links you assume that numerous stupid comments equate to things being one sided/one way, and to that I call BS.

I'll admit the Nation of Yahweh thing was dumb since I didn't bother to read the details about it, but there again do you really want to get into e dick contest of whos worse?

My point is which you are brushing off because you would rather blame white people than humans for the ills of blacks is my point, thos that cling to racism are not the supposed majority alone, clinging to cultural ways of division breeds it more than saying fck it I wont play the baiting game.

And yes I am stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Gramamr is very difficult for me then again it seems reading comperhention and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of some people.

What I am getting at the core of your argument that most whites are racist is flawed its like saying most religious people are ignorant, most people are just that people busy with their day to day lives racisim, sexisim, reading comperhention/comperhention, critical thinking/thinking are beyond them for practical purposes, this dose not mean there is not areas of discontent with X but it goes beyond you petty argument most white folk are ebil thats theres nothing wrong with black folk even if Bill cosby says we got issues...but then looking at modern cultures who dosen't.

Again if I am not making myself clear, you want to make this into a black and white issue when its mutably gray.

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I shouldn't have to provide you with links to some wikipedia site which you ripped most of your google'd garbage from anyways. I'm sure you can type in black-panthers yourself or google it. You even admitted that you didn't read the "Nation of Yahweh thing you looked up YOURSELF, so that leads me to believe that you're COMPLETELY cluless about anything and simply googling anything you can find that resembles the phrase "racist black groups."

You're not very bright, so anything else from this point on that you say is irrelavent and made up to try and help salvage your failed attempts at dissolving my facts. Face it, you don't research anything before you comment on it, which you basically in a nutshell admitted to yourself by NOT READING or understanding YOUR OWN made-up-facts which is actually embarrassing for you!! What a shame..

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fgamer
what facts?
you have gave none backed up none of your statements with any links you assume that numerous stupid comments equate to things being one sided/one way, and to that I call BS.

I'll admit the Nation of Yahweh thing was dumb since I didn't bother to read the details about it, but there again do you really want to get into e dick contest of whos worse?

My point is which you are brushing off because you would rather blame white people than humans for the ills of blacks is my point, thos that cling to racism are not the supposed majority alone, clinging to cultural ways of division breeds it more than saying fck it I wont play the baiting game.

And yes I am stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgraphia

Gramamr is very difficult for me then again it seems reading comperhention and critical thinking is beyond the grasp of some people.

What I am getting at the core of your argument that most whites are racist is flawed its like saying most religious people are ignorant, most people are just that people busy with their day to day lives racisim, sexisim, reading comperhention/comperhention, critical thinking/thinking are beyond them for practical purposes, this dose not mean there is not areas of discontent with X but it goes beyond you petty argument most white folk are ebil thats theres nothing wrong with black folk even if Bill cosby says we got issues...but then looking at modern cultures who dosen't.

Again if I am not making myself clear, you want to make this into a black and white issue when its mutably gray.

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I shouldn't have to provide you with links to some wikipedia site which you ripped most of your google'd garbage from anyways. I'm sure you can type in black-panthers yourself or google it. You even admitted that you didn't read the "Nation of Yahweh thing you looked up YOURSELF, so that leads me to believe that you're COMPLETELY cluless about anything and simply googling anything you can find that resembles the phrase "racist black groups."

You're not very bright, so anything else from this point on that you say is irrelavent and made up to try and help salvage your failed attempts at dissolving my facts. Face it, you don't research anything before you comment on it, which you basically in a nutshell admitted to yourself by NOT READING or understanding YOUR OWN made-up-facts which is actually embarrassing for you!! What a shame..

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Actually I wanted to deflect poser talk with some lose info and grabbed whatever was avalible(since it can be "interesting" and subtle to find info on non white racists), since you are as unable to bring facts to the argument and calling people names most can tell who's the moronic bigot here and its not me, I'm just a fool that thinks humans are pathetic creatures that hate equally.

^^ Very nice the way you tried to resort to more name calling because of your failed attempts to make sense. It's ok, I understand that you couldn't debate this issue with me using facts so you had to avoid MY facts and make up your own stuff and begin further name calling. I know you know that you made up anything that would sound good to rebutt me with, but it's funny because you've failed everytime.

So try harder buddy! I also can tell who's the bigot here, and it's the one constantly responding to me with comments defending their own bigotry subconsciously (or perhaps consciously). It's pretty obvious just from you saying that the black panthers are a racist organization, you have deep racism built inside and you try to mask it with non-valid false wannabe facts.

Face the fact that you claimed the BP's to be racist when in fact they were to protect black people from whites brutality of murder, rape, torture and many other horrendous acts done. That to me seems like a group of people fed up with such acts, and needed a movement/group to accomplish an end to it. If you don't understand that then you pretty much do qualify as a bigot and will say anything to protect your imorral view(s).

Dude, get off it already. "Most" black people are just about as racist as white people, it's 50/50 here bro. Think about it, they are like the Jews and Muslims. Most of them hate each other, there's no way around it. So saying that white people are more racist then black people is just about as ignorant as racism it's self.

You're actually the one that sounds pretty racist here. You were the first one to cast the stone bro, no one was even really talking about black or white.

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So does this mean that black people don't do any of those things? Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading and brush up your knowledge on the subject.

How can you not understand anything Zippy said? I understood every bit of what he was saying.

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Dude, get off it already. "Most" black people are just about as racist as white people, it's 50/50 here bro. Think about it, they are like the Jews and Muslims. Most of them hate each other, there's no way around it. So saying that white people are more racist then black people is just about as ignorant as racism it's self.

You're actually the one that sounds pretty racist here. You were the first one to cast the stone bro, no one was even really talking about black or white.

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So does this mean that black people don't do any of those things? Sounds like you need to do a bit more reading and brush up your knowledge on the subject.

How can you not understand anything Zippy said? I understood every bit of what he was saying.

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OF course you understand Zippy because you're racist like him "BRO," and I know you're white because you say "BRO" way too much! SO I don't really expect you to agree with me, obviously you also have racist issues =D As I said before, white people are more racist and now white people try to play reverse racism to cover up their own racist views. Kinda like what you and Zippy are doing. It's absolutely hilarious because you know I'm right.

Actually you are an a$$hat.l I keep out of race arguments because I live and work in a multicultural environment, and believe, you get way more discrimination and abuse as a woman from men, be they black, white or yellow, than you get from another woman because of your skin colour.

Racism boils down to one simple thing.. feeling threatened by somebody else because they are different. They wear different clothes, listen to different music, have different skin, speak an alien language.. That's it, plain and simple.

When people eventually realise that we are born (no choice there) we live for a while doing whet we need to survive (again not much choice) and then we die (sometimes we have a choice, but not always) all exactly the same regardless of race, colour or creed then everything will get much better.. Remember the civil rights people back in the 60's.. they didn't want anything other than equality under the law (which actually they already had in most states, and had had since the 1860's). Not as crapheads like "the nation of islam" would paint it now.. which is they want it all, with non islam (read white) being excluded. There you have the threat, and that is the root cause.. while people seperate themselves due to colour, race or creed there will always be this conflict. Religion being one hateful driving force, and ignorance being the other.

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You're being racist by assuming I'm white because I said "bro". Like I said before, you're the one that came here and started playing the race card - what racist do. Your first comment on this page didn't even have anything to do with the article, you just came here looking to spread your racist hate.

And who are you to say that white people are more racist? What facts do you have, other then your ignorant views, to back that up? And me not understand, what is there to not understand other then the fact that blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, and everybody else in the world can be racist - just like you.


If you really think I'm racist, why don't you go and look at my previous comments before you came along - doesn't look racist to me, I was actually talking good about the artist!

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Not sure what people see in this kind of music. That's all I really have to say.

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It's a cultural thing, you wouldn't understand.

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You gotta remember where he got his influence from. Texas and Louisiana rap - mostly Texas style. Check out anything from DEA, SUC, or any other OG Houston rapper. That's where it's at my friend, so not commercial, that is until everyone started catching on.

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Why do white people always wanna pass judgement on rap music that they aren't even aware of what some of the music represents? So if this was some rock album people would be saying "oh that's great." It's no different if I were to say rock aint nothin but a bunch of emo makeup wearing crossdressing freaks screaming in a microphone.

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Because majority of the people that hate on rap are white, and don't act like that's not factual because you know it is. Most white people are racist, vile hate mongers so I believe...no...wait... I know it's the truth! It's just easy for people to listen to some rap like 50 cent and hear them rapping about stupid non-sense and then say that's rap as a whole. But if we're talking about this album "The Carter 3" I don't think those stereotypes apply, seriously.

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Dude, your way off. The most racist people are actually old, black men. There are a lot of racist white people out there, but saying that they hate it just because they are racist isn't completely true either. I think most people talk down on the industry because they don't understand it or what it's all about. Like I said before, it's a cultural thing - you either love it or you don't.

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Interesting how you say I should look at your previous comments and look where you wrote yourself saying "The most racist people are actually old, black men." So you've already proved yourself as racist and mindless for missing that tidbit. If you all say I have no facts to back up my claims of white people being more racist, then what facts do you have to back up your very own claims saying they aren't? Exactly you don't! I know who the real ignorant person(s) are and it's definately not me. I think we all know white people are very racist people whether you've convinced yourselves that or otherwise.

I also see you all conveniently ignored the comment he made earlier saying "old-black people are the most racist." Of course you all would ignore that comment because you're to busy defending your own racist views and you share his same thoughts because...yes..you're white! Go figure, typical white people for ya.

I'm just going to finish this childish, mind numbing conversation with the following...

My previous statement about old black men being more racist then anyone, was taken from a stand up act by Chris Rock, Bigger and Blacker - hmm, do racist watch Chris Rock? But of course your racist mentality has angered you so much, and filled your head with stupidity, that you can not actually look at what's being said. Instead, you would rather continue on spreading your racist hate. ;)

Like I said before, you are the one that played the race card from the very begining - you're the racist sir! I can understand someone saying what you did if race had been in the news article, or someone said something racist, but they didn't. Crazy radical racist, like yourself, pray upon things like this just so you can spread your hate - I know your kind sir!

But here's my favorite part about your last comment. Read along with me, shall we.

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LMFAO @ you! Get over yourself already "bro". You are just setting yourself up for failure with anymore posts. If you want to continue on with this discussion, I will be MORE then happy to talk to you in pm.

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Yea, you can thank the a$$ clown above my post for that. Racist love to come along and stir up trouble when there's no need for it.

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I'm just going to finish this childish, mind numbing conversation with the following...

My previous statement about old black men being more racist then anyone, was taken from a stand up act by Chris Rock, Bigger and Blacker - hmm, do racist watch Chris Rock? But of course your racist mentality has angered you so much, and filled your head with stupidity, that you can not actually look at what's being said. Instead, you would rather continue on spreading your racist hate. ;)

Like I said before, you are the one that played the race card from the very begining - you're the racist sir! I can understand someone saying what you did if race had been in the news article, or someone said something racist, but they didn't. Crazy radical racist, like yourself, pray upon things like this just so you can spread your hate - I know your kind sir!

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LMFAO @ you! Get over yourself already "bro". You are just setting yourself up for failure with anymore posts. If you want to continue on with this discussion, I will be MORE then happy to talk to you in pm.

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OK, the reason I said your comment equals racism is because you know it's a blatant lie, and still yet you disseminate it as truth. As opposed to my comment saying white people are more racist is based off of fact. That's why me saying white people are more racist isn't me being racist but speaking off of truth. White people indulged in slavery and racism for years and years, so you can't tell me that their racist ideology has changed overnight. You go into any Halo game or any Xbox Live online game in general and all you hear is a bunch of white people saying "N***" this "N***" that. I stand by my claims of caucasian's being more racist, and you know it's true. I guess the truth hearts your little racist's hearts!

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And what do you hear nearly every other line of the average rap song?? "N***" this "N***" that".. so it's OK for blacks to use that word but not whites? Ever heard of freedom of speech?
Personally I find the majority of rap deeply offensive because of the sentiments expressed towards women who are usually referred to as whores and bitches.. So you can publicly call me a whore or a slut or a bitch, but I'm not allowed to use the word nigger... There is something very very wrong here!! PC my ass.. If somebody of one colour can use a word, but somebody of another can't then I'm afraid my friends that that is racism.. plain and simple. Now get the hell of my beach before I shoot you.

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And what do you hear nearly every other line of the average rap song?? "N***" this "N***" that".. so it's OK for blacks to use that word but not whites? Ever heard of freedom of speech?
Personally I find the majority of rap deeply offensive because of the sentiments expressed towards women who are usually referred to as whores and bitches.. So you can publicly call me a whore or a slut or a bitch, but I'm not allowed to use the word nigger... There is something very very wrong here!! PC my ass.. If somebody of one colour can use a word, but somebody of another can't then I'm afraid my friends that that is racism.. plain and simple. Now get the hell of my beach before I shoot you.

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OK, and why would you need to use the word "N****" word, because one race uses it so you want to use it also( it sounds so 3rd grade)? Obviously you'd only be using the "N" word to support your own racism! Do you hear black people using racist words and other derogatory remarks OFTEN, such as calling white people trailer trash, crackers, honkey-tonks, red-necks, incest mongers, white bread, pale face, casper, animal hair and incest-child molesters? You don't even hear black people mention white peoples lack of using soap when they shower, I could go on but I think you get the point!

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Good you shouldn't, you've proved who you are. =D

while I am feeling wordy why not try and read what I said and think about it I went after PCisim and rascisim of any kind focusing my train of thought on the stupidity of ignorance and PCisim after all PCisim is to color words with lies and mis truth thus why I have my own set of intolerance for it, the rest of my droolings were not rassict, poorly wordy and stupid more like since I was not feeling wordy and got bent out of shape over the one sided race baiting that started up.

Heres a reason why I am not a rasicst I don;t see by color, I like Obama and will vote for him as the lesser of evils, I comperhand the words and meaning of what his controversial preachers said sure anyone with a mind can see the black victimization in the tone but at the same time hes preaching to the choir is like watching a brimstone baptists talk about hellfire damnation and sinners what they said was not that bad at all, yet the media dove into it hoping that the witless masses would eat it up because the witless masses lack critical thinking skills.

I am many a thing crazy, moronic, foolish, immature, selfish, lazy but I am neither a sexist,theorists/creedisist or racist.

I believe that truthful reality should NOT be protected from the masses which means I can easily side against politically correct methodology and thinking.

holly crisps me and lost words ><

Well... just to report a first. You can still get glasto tickets with less than 2 days to the start, mostly due to some other talentless shouter topping the bill.

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