I would never download hes music ... because it sucks... never like it when it was first out I thought it was stupid then !Okay Gene I've already got all your albums for free from a yard sale they would not sale so I got them out of the garbage can, washed off the beans and cat food and they still suck !

Originally posted by rbrock:

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I would never download hes music ... because it sucks... never like it when it was first out I thought it was stupid then !Okay Gene I've already got all your albums for free from a yard sale they would not sale so I got them out of the garbage can, washed off the beans and cat food and they still suck !

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Thats the way to get your music without feeding the RIAA and those fatcats. Just buy all your music used. When you buy a new album, the partners of whichever label you bought it from get royalties, just like the artists do. So, how do you stop that you ask? Buy used music.

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[b]KISS...[b]

What a crap band they were. My older brother, a genuine hippie, loved them. I could never understand that.
I read in a Cream magazine interview with Bonnie Raitt that she(a real musician), was beat out by Simmons in an audition for KISS simply because he had the "tongue". There's a talent for ya!

Me, I always liked the original Allman Brothers Band, Yes, Jeff Beck, Mayall, Clapton and Humble Pie, because they could play their instruments. The Alice Cooper Group had better showmanship than KISS, if that's what you wanted, and wrote a lot of "thinking man's" lyrics. A smart and funny band.

Simmons is all guile and BS, hasn't changed a bit in 35 years. He needs to take a walk with some lemmings.

His tirade sounds a lot like Vinny Del Vecchio on Advanced Media Network. If your business model is fv(k&d up, blame the fans! Evil downloaders are killing the industry!

Yeah, and Borders is going out of business because they can't sell CDs.

Blow chunks Simmons!

Hmmm.

I have the sneaking suspicion that no new KISS fans will be born from this site...or this article.

Too bad Gene doesn't read this stuff, huh? Not that it would matter much. I doubt he cares about the "little people" too much these days.

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All the downloading sure doesnt seem to be hurting his pocket, he lives like an Arab king, got a lot of balls to bitch, and he should thank his swelled head Shannon stays by him, I to do not see what she ever saw in him other than his money and an easy life for her.

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I to do not see what she ever saw in him other than his money and an easy life for her.

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Don't forget the tongue which may make up where he could be lacking elsewhere.

Just south of those heavy pockets.

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Bouya !!! well said

Originally posted by MartinDVJ:

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Coming from the music industry I have 30 years experience, I've worked for Zomba music as a managing director for 6 years and also for a US ISP: Level3, Bisides that I am a music producer. What I can say is that because of technology markets are changing. When the word processor was invented the typewriter factory had to think of producing something different. Think of all the plug ins in software which replaces all the hardware.

So making music is also much easier then 20 years ago A Madonna remix is made in a day by Timbaland. So it comes again to real handwork if we talk about live performances.

So in fact Gene is just to lazy to go on stage again and not flexible to change his business model. This is a typical psycholioical reaction from a person who lost contact with the generation of today.

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Hendrix: Ad Infinitum
Kiss: Ah, 1998...TFB...

System - Rhythm Machine

It's just a publicity stunt, they haven't had a new cd in years, what does he care if you don't buy his music, he wants to attract people to his show and ad to his reputation for being outspoken, he nows that even in their day, kiss could only move records at concerts, because people didn't like their music until they saw them perform, they stated that on VH1 where are they now, before he got a reality show, and as for Shannon Tweed, well lets face it, mini me has a sex tape out now, just look at TMZ. so i doubt it's the tongue or any other part of his body, oh and lets not forget, before people were downloading music, they were using tape recorders to copy it off the radio, i think it was Margaret chow, who would make fun of it in her stand up gig, back when it only cost them $3 to make a cd but they still charged $15 to $20, and then got sued in a class action suite for price fixing when they exposed themselves by going after circuit city and best buy when they refused to price fix and lowered their prices to kill the mom and pop stores, what a den of thieves and yet so quick to point the finger at everyone else.

I agree with almost every word posted on this issue. I say make music people like and you will make money and you will have fun, too. The old kings of Europe were eliminated and democracy brought in. Let's do the same with the royal music kingdoms.

As so many in the post have so clearly expressed, when it comes to contemporary music marketing, Gene Simmons is a dinosaur. He has become very rich marketing Kiss to the maximal extent possible, but he does need to realize that the model that made him rich isn't going to come back into existence, even if he tries to finance it with his own personal fortune. For a man who was recently shown on TV talking to a group of Hawaiian businesspeople about the importance of diversification in business, he needs to try and follow his own advice.

Rob Halford is using the new model to market his solo work: maybe Gene ought to ask him how it's working out....

Simmons is a turd. He hasnt released any music because his band was a dying breed. Hey, Simmons, here is an idea, if the artist would start releasing COMPLETE cd's with good music instead of 2-3 songs and the rest garbage, then maybe some people would care to purchase the music.

I remember in 1990 the music was actually good and the WHOLE album was solid. Now a days there only a handful of artist that put out complete albums that are good. There is no way I am forking over 16 bucks for 2 good songs.

Also, more and more artist are going to start using the internet for promotion. It is easier, cheaper, and it's return is well worth it.

I agree with djgizmo and Matt355. Gene is all washed up! He is too old to be creative and I guess too old to even go on the road and do a good show. I am really crying for the bastard! His music is not realty good enough to be classic but I am sure he would differ with that opinion. What he doesn't figure is his opinion does not matter. Too bad he didn’t invest more money when the getting was good. He must have assumed a few years of creativity would carry him for the rest of his life.

I believe it was the music industry the killed the music industry. Their greed has stopped the creative flow that existed in the olden days. Now most bands are artists instead of entertainers. They do not realize it is the lowly fan that makes them great or actually millions of lowly fans.

I am sure he pirated music when he was a boy.

Yeah Right, as if he didnt copy music using a cassete recorder, we did, he did, everybody did, and now its suppose to be different, so damn hypocritical. All these damn moguls make me sick anymore with all thier crying and moaning, what are they really losing even with pirating, what is like 7 to 8 percent from everything I read, oh man, so instead of them making a mil a year and mostly more, they'll make like what 920 thou a year or more, oh man boo hoo my f#$%#$g heart bleeds for them.

Originally posted by FredBun:

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Yeah Right, as if he didnt copy music using a cassete recorder, we did, he did, everybody did, and now its suppose to be different, so damn hypocritical. All these damn moguls make me sick anymore with all thier crying and moaning, what are they really losing even with pirating, what is like 7 to 8 percent from everything I read, oh man, so instead of them making a mil a year and mostly more, they'll make like what 920 thou a year or more, oh man boo hoo my f#$%#$g heart bleeds for them.

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Does anyone remember holding the cassette recorder up to the tv or radio to get your "mix" down?!@! I do.

i f'ed up

Originally posted by Daxsmoker:

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gene simmons is stupid, the music industry is because of lime wire and music share sites, as well as the crap music that is out today like solider boy, lil wayne, and coldplay.

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Lil Wayne has been making music for nearly 10 years or longer. It's not like it just came out. Get yo mind correct son!

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Hey Gene maybe you can bury the music industry in one of those KISS coffins you sell!

Does Simmons have any fans left? Did he ever have any? So much venom for such a never-was.

Kiss used to be huge, but they sold out for more money. I just saw Alice Cooper in concert recently and he has way better showmanship plus way better music. A good example of a musical artist that stuck to his roots and stayed faithful to his fans.

Kiss was NEVER huge, and I've heard 'em all starting with Elvis who was huge, twice! Alice Cooper was indeed huge also.

Alice Cooper (along with rockers like ZZ Top) still put on a kickin' show.

Never seen KISS live, don't intend to. I only like a couple songs. And obviously have zero respect for Gene Simmons.

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The point is that he doesn't want to make any more music because he believes the record industry is dead and more importantly.... He can't make enough money.

Isn't the guy rich enough. Even if you keep touring people are going to want to see you play just as much as ever, and if people share your new stuff, well at least it's getting out there and people are hearing it. Some will love it, others will burn it(like some of the people in this thread)but you should be happy That its circulating the masses.

If you still arn't making enough money maybe you should go do another reality tv show you . Maybe this time it should feature gordon ramsey with kiss as his apprentices.

Everyone who has read this topic should really see the christian rock band episode of south park if they have not allready.

Thanks for listening.

The point is that he doesn't want to make any more music because he believes the record industry is dead and more importantly.... He can't make enough money.

Isn't the guy rich enough. Even if you keep touring people are going to want to see you play just as much as ever, and if people share your new stuff, well at least it's getting out there and people are hearing it. Some will love it, others will burn it(like some of the people in this thread)but you should be happy That its circulating the masses.

If you still arn't making enough money maybe you should go do another reality tv show you . Maybe this time it should feature gordon ramsey with kiss as his apprentices.

Everyone who has read this topic should really see the christian rock band episode of south park if they have not allready.

Thanks for listening.