well now you know one (ME) who has never had a problem with his PS2, his 8X CDRW drive, or his DVD Player. I've never had any reason to beleive that Sony products break down or are inferior to other brands. Every Sony product I've ever had has worked flawlessly. :)

an 8X?
the only problem I've ever had was with my PS2, when it stopped playing games and DVDs right. We talked to customer service and they said that the Gameshark for PS2 could cause those problems. We had been using a Gameshark, and so they offered to let us send it in to Florida and they would fix it and send it back free of charge, and it hasn't had a problem since then. So I guess I am impressed with Sony's products and service.
As for Betamax, it was a competing format for the VHS, it was a smaller tape that produced better quality, but for some reason, it was less popular among the common man, so VHS won out and killed Betamax forever.

yeah I've had a Sony 8X CDRW for a good four years now. I've seriously burned thousands of discs with it. Keep it now for backup, in case my LiteOn 48X takes a dump. Yeah, I destroyed my first PS2 by attempting to mod it. I'm very good at soldering, but my first attempt at surface mount soldering was on my PS2...big mistake. Luckily I sold it on eBay for like $130 (in as-is condition of course). My dad works for the movie industry, so he has product placement connections with Sony, and was able to get me a replacement. Learned my lesson on that one...practice first!

my first CDRW was a 12X and it was a Philips. it died a few months ago after only about 3 years. but atleast I had a reason to get my Plextor which I love so very much!

my frist CD burner was a 4X no-name brand. Back then even the cheapos cost over $250. how times have changed...

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Diabolos, proper spelling and grammar would increase the credibility of your posts.

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Dude that was unnecessary. You have no idea what your talking about. Go search my name and see how credible my posts are. Newbie!

For you punx777,

Betamax vs VHS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betamax

enjoy,
Ced

anybody got a pair of boxing gloves? lol

thanks for the betamax artical..... while weer on the subject of burners, (i dont know if this was an hp brand burner or what) but in my hp pavilion, the factory dvd writer one day just stopped... i doubt i did over 100 burns... and the dvd-rom drive stopped working months before that, it made clicking sounds and when i pulled a disk out it nearly burnt my hand....

but anyway.. im not quite a fan of sony, some of you are. lets just leave it at that.

well said. on that same note, I've never really been a fan of HP. Bought a printer from them once, died not even a month after the warranty expired. My Uncle has gone through several HP computers, and after inspecting their build quality and components, I'd never buy a HP product again.

And now since HP bought Compaq, they can make even worse computers using the Compaq method of getting the worst possible hardware and making it sound better. They don't care to mention that the hard drives will make awful grinding sounds, the disc drives will have flaky working periods, and the AGP slot has been ripped off the motherboard. That's how my brother's new Compaq is. And it came with an HP printer and, needless to say, it has stopped working for no reason at all; just started saying "the printer could not be found" after a week or two.

okay heres what went wrong on my brand new hp pavilion 250gig 1gig ram ect....

dvd-rom drive----shot
dvd+rw writer--- dead
17" flat screen moniter--- had thick black bar going through the center making it impossible to read.
wireles keyboard- died one day

thankfully all of this was replaced...(it took 9 months to recive my new keyboard thought, due to "backorder")
and for the replacment dvd burner LOL.... a charge came up on our credit card for $216.... 216 USD FOR A FUCKING 6(or 8?)X SINGLE LAYER DVD BURNER... because they said we didnt sent the broken one back... which was bullshit(it turned out to be in like, pheonix or something) but that was replaced....

well all in all, i must have spent about 8 hours with them on the phone, talking to at least 20 different people.

yes, i wish i had bought a sony

SUMMARY: dont by from hp

Lots of companies try to screw you by making the only way you can get what you were supposed to is by many hours of talking on the phone. I have had to do this with rebates all the time. The only Sony product I have right now is the PS2, and I have to say it has given me less trouble than other systems. I had to replace my Xbox DVD drive because the original wouldn't play anything right anymore, and Gamecube...I don't wanna get started. I plan on buying a Blu-Ray burner when they are available as well as a player, even if HD-DVD wins out.

Sony has a external Blu-Ray burner, I saw it in PC World magazine. It sells for over $2000, and the 25 GB discs are 50 bucks a pop. As bitchin' as I think blu-ray is, I think I'll wait until I don't have to max out my credit card just to get it.

Yeah I saw those stand alone recorders, but I meant a PC Blu-Ray burner, whenever they become available at a reasonable price, as well as the discs themselves.

no I mean a PC burner, I think it had both firewire and USB 2.0 interface.

found it!
http://www.sonyburners.com/prodata/product_detail.php?ID=18075
retails for $3295...holy smokes!

really? I hadn't seen that before. Atleast they have them developed now, but I guess I won't be getting one until they have some cheaper, preferably internal burners and the discs cost a lot less.
This is reminding me of Dual Layer DVD...

why does it say "ProData"?

I guess thats what Sony is labeling their blu-ray burners as. There's an internal drive too. I don't like how it takes cartridges. Remember when CDROMS first came out and what a pain in the ass they were in those cartridges? I doubt those will last. I wonder if the stand alone burners have cartridges too, or just the discs.

yeah I can't stand the cartridges. Hopefully they will have newer burners not require cartridges...and be cheaper.

Hey, I noticed that they never actually say "Blu-Ray" but they do mention the blue laser technology. This seems like a data only preamble format for Blu-Ray. I bet the real Blu-Ray will have no cartridge.
This made me laugh:

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cost effective?
speaking of expensive, I remembered our first VHS VCR, it was about $500 at the time.

yeah, thats weird its not called blu-ray, but it does have the blu-ray logo on the burner. Maybe the "pro disc" is a proprietary Sony format of blu-ray.

well at least with cartriges you wont scratch the disk and ruin your data.... id pry prefer a cartrige....

that's probably what it is. Down at the bottom it has a logo that says "Professional Disc" and below it says "DATA", so I figured it was a data only format.

even so, I'm glad to see new formats coming on to the market. Sure, they're way out of our price range, but so were DVD burners a few years ago. I look forward to the day we can burn 25 to 50 GB disks as if they were nothing. Its insane how quickly technology really develops if you think about it. Perfect example: The apollo space shuttles, which carried men to the moon, had a whopping 70 KB of memory, which for its day was a massive amount of storage, and that was only 35 years ago. Imagine what the next 35 years will bring...