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New stronger DVD copy protection introduced

17 February 2005 13:42 by Jari Ketola | 42 comments

New stronger DVD copy protection introduced Macrovision has developed a new, stronger DVD copy protection that it says will make it more difficult to rip protected DVDs. RipGuard will thwart most of the DVD ripping software currently on the market.

According to Macrovision RipGuard protected DVDs will play in "nearly all" current DVD players. The company, however, failed to be more specific about the number of players the discs do not work with.

"RipGuard is designed to... reduce DVD ripping and the resulting supply of illegal peer to peer," said the firm.

Recently the movie industry has followed the path taken earlier by the music industry -- "stronger" copy protection and lawsuits agaisnt alleged pirates.

Both the music and movie industry fail to realize that the only ones affected by the new copy protections, which are little more than non-standard discs, are the legitimate customers. Pirates and hackers will always find a way around the protections. And the copies spread in P2P networks do not originate from private individuals. They always originate from (semi) professional pirate groups.

It's been fun buying 10-15 movies per month. I guess it'll come to an end once the movies stop working with my players.

Source: BBC News

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    frankosee (Newbie) 18 February 2005 15:42 Send private message to this user   
    DVD Region+CSS Free never let me down. It already supports new Sony ARccOS protection. No doubt they will support RipGuild too.

    BTW, DVDFab Platinum is another great product by Fengtao Software. It lets me copy any protected DVD perfectly without help of DVD Region+CSS Free.
    bobiroc (Member) 18 February 2005 18:11 Send private message to this user   
    Not that I condone illegally copying anything, but it is my feeling that the harder they try to prevent someone from copying their products the more it makes people want to copy them. Sony has their ARccOS copy protection which uses the fake bad sector method and that had been broken every time Sony releases an update. Ripguard will be no different. The fact that this new "prtection" will cause some DVD players not to play the movies is ridiculus. That is not fair to the consumer that has a perfectly good DVD player and the fact that it is a few years old should not prevent them from playing a movie.
    gsuscrazy (Member) 18 February 2005 21:36 Send private message to this user   
    skopas: it was david and goliath...

    samson was the one who grew long hair the was blessed with superhuman strength as long as his hair was long...

    as for this protection...

    rent the movie, borrow the movie..watch it one time... odds are it aint worth the 45 cents for the dvd, and the 30 minutes of your time.

    really.
    zeppelin (Newbie) 19 February 2005 3:32 Send private message to this user   
    Id just like to comment that there is also "hacks" for you home dvd players.I have a sony, model number dvpns315.I found a Region code and Macrovision hack for my model.check out this site for more info http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks
    daemonzx6 (Senior Member) 19 February 2005 13:22 Send private message to this user   
    yeah, videohelp.com is one of the best sites out there for, well, video help. lots of codec testing and results are on that website, as well as a DVD player media compatibility database.
    cmmnsense (Inactive) 24 February 2005 14:42 Send private message to this user   
    DVD Decrypter can do it... just kidding, I got your hopes up didn't I? Anyhow, I'll be watching for afterdawns free download of the new decrypting software. I really hope they just update DVD Shrink because I like just taking the movie and burning it uncompressed to a $0.80 Verbatim DVD-R.
    fancymojo (Junior Member) 25 February 2005 1:42 Send private message to this user   
    dvd decpryter will be able to do it LIGHTNING_UK! is the man/woman. he/she did it with re2 and little black book in no time! ripguard doesnt stand a chance in hell! go ahead waste money and time and also alienate the consumers. this is what i think we should boycott whatever company uses ripguard go to our local rental store and rip the movie and pass it out to our friends for free

    LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!!
    a254535 (Newbie) 25 February 2005 5:37 Send private message to this user   
    I travel a lot. I copy my movies to take them with me. I do this so if they get lost/stolen or broken I still have my movie at home. If they make them so that when I rent or buy them and they don't work on any of my players, they are forcing me to go to P2P to get them so that they will play on my players. They are hurting their own market. What they need to understand is there is always going to be someone to break the coding. They need to find another way of dealing with this. One way is pricing.They need to keep thinking.
    daemonzx6 (Senior Member) 25 February 2005 19:38 Send private message to this user   
    hah, maybe one day they'll get it through their thick skulls that copy protection is pointless.
    i, too, copy cds and dvds to use or take with me and keep my originals in their cases, so if it gets scratched i'll still have the original.
    compgran (Newbie) 26 February 2005 16:19 Send private message to this user   
    I have an older GE DVD player that plays both DVD +R's and DVD -Rs. I got it second hand, but it works fine except I've been having trouble playing "store bought" DVD's just lately. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban was the first, but it's been happening more and more lately. It's mostly the new movies. Old cheapies from Walmart work just fine, and if I make a copy, that plays just fine. I was thinking the DVD player was dying, but maybe it has something to do with all this protection stuff? Any ideas?
    fogducker (Newbie) 27 February 2005 9:11 Send private message to this user   
    I found "I_heart_Huckabees" had the new protection. Managed to decrypt with the new Jan. version of decrypter and then shrink as usual.....but no burning software I have DVD Clone2, Alcohol,Roxio or Nero could open the files to back up on burnable media. aarrg!
    fancymojo (Junior Member) 27 February 2005 11:18 Send private message to this user   
    i did huckabees w/no problems
    fogducker (Newbie) 27 February 2005 13:56 Send private message to this user   
    fancymojo, did the copy you had have a copy protection logo on the box? the one I had had a logo i had never seen before.
    fogducker (Newbie) 27 February 2005 14:27 Send private message to this user   
    the dvd i tried to back up wouldn't play in my stand alone player, so i tried to back it up to see if i could play the back up.....couldn't back it up so i ended up returning the original to the retailer. is that what the movie industry really wants?
    nanu-nanu (Member) 27 February 2005 15:00 Send private message to this user   
    why not post more on this "logo"

    We're like Captain Planet here "with our powers combined"

    can you take a pic. of the logo
    nachoguy (Junior Member) 5 March 2005 12:37 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    Man, I just love you guys being so confident that ripguard will undertaken...lol.....cool.
    have they ever implemented anything that hasnt been cracked or overcome yet?
    artg2 (Inactive) 8 March 2005 7:17 Send private message to this user   
    The trouble I've been having lately is with looping. Is this one of the new schemes??
    fancymojo (Junior Member) 8 March 2005 10:52 Send private message to this user   
    LOOPING??? ON WHAT DVDS
    1sunshine (Newbie) 18 November 2005 18:48 Send private message to this user   
    I've tried everything together seperate nothing will work for me.
    I have css free and DVD Decrypter dvdfab decrypter dvd fab gold and platium any dvd 1 clickdvd please help me I m trying to burn bewitched it has sony Arccos ccs
    xhardc0re (Inactive) 21 November 2005 6:18 Send private message to this user   
    Is this for real?! I have seen no proof of the logo, a screenshot, nothing at all. Come on, somebody should take a camera phone or a small digital camera into best buy & take a screenshot of the bewitched box or sumthing. It only takes a few mins, somebody needs to prove this is A SPOOF. Or forreal, let's get started on a fix.
    garmoon (AfterDawn Addict) 21 November 2005 13:14 Send private message to this user   
    "Bewitched" burned with no problems with AnyDVD running, DVD Decrypter and burned with Nero Recode 2.
    PrpleHaze (Newbie) 29 November 2005 22:00 Send private message to this user   
    I had trouble with Bewitched as well... DVD Decryter and Smart Ripper both failed. I used DVDFab Decryter without any problem, but did some "Googling" to see if I could find out why this DVD wasn't being cooperative. Excellent post here:

    http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?p=311001

    "If it's newly released by Columbia Pictures and/or Sony Pictures and you're having trouble with it - there is a good chance that it is an ARccOS™ protected DVD"
    xhardc0re (Inactive) 30 November 2005 8:19 Send private message to this user   
    Excellent work PrpleHaze, thanks!
    amerigril (Inactive) 10 February 2007 15:53 Send private message to this user   
    dvd region css+free is not availabe on its website any more i tried to purchase it i had a trial verison .
    dokstrang (Inactive) 13 December 2008 11:52 Send private message to this user   
    I found a way to hack the copy protection. I can't believe they did not think of this. I used SPAM converter ultimate. (which you can download free as a demo then go to a local butcher to get the free registration code to make it the full version) choose the video profile as dvd then go to file and add the video files from the Dark Knight DVD.

    render it to an iso file then burn it....So *bleep* simple...They wasted their money and time with this copy protection measure....good luck to them next time..

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13 December 2008 16:59

    dokstran (Inactive) 14 December 2008 12:28 Send private message to this user   
    spam removed

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14 December 2008 12:36

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