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RIAA sues another 784 file sharers

1 July 2005 8:47 by James "Dela" Delahunty | 62 comments

RIAA sues another 784 file sharers The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) has again launched another wave of lawsuits against file sharers it alleges to have distributed copyrighted songs online through P2P networks. This time, 784 file sharers are on the RIAA's hit list, and will now be forced to settle out of court for thousands of dollars. If they refuse to settle, the RIAA could claim hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars in damages.

This brings the total number of P2P users sued by the RIAA to about 11,000, which is huge figure but quite miniscule when you put it up against the 5 million users that currently use the eDonkey2000 network to share files. This "sue em all" tactic is what the RIAA refers to as a deterrent, and claims from the group are that this deterrent is working. However, P2P monitoring services refuse to believe that and point out that the number of users of P2P networks is rising day by day.

Yesterday we reported on a series of raids targeted against internet "warez" groups whom the FBI claims are responsible for most of the copyrighted works being shared on the Internet. There were over 90 searches internationally, and about $50,000,000 in pirated material was seized. "We have shown law enforcement can find and prosecute those who try to use the internet to create piracy networks," said US attorney general Alberto Gonzales. This raid also followed the infamous decision by the Supreme Court on Monday.

The Supreme Court ruled that any owners/developers of P2P networks who promote its use for piracy can be sued, but that doesn't change the legality of decentralised P2P services. The MGM vs. Grokster case had seen two lower court decisions in Grokster’s favour. Some of the P2P users targeted in this series of lawsuits were users of the Grokster network.

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    nohelpme (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 8:13 Send private message to this user   
    Hey man it exists...its right near the flux capasitor of the dvd

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    tsteege (Newbie) 5 July 2005 8:17 Send private message to this user   
    I don't agree with outright stealing on either side. If you don't own the original VHS, DVD, BetaMax, license, whatever it is called stealing, and in turn ripping off the public by charging $80+ for a family to go to the movies is also STEALING.

    I wish everyone would get this worked up over the government taking private property or the total lack of reguard for our tax dollars. Maybe we need to start at the core problems with our government. Once the people speak out instead of just standing by and letting the lawers and big business dictate to us through our elected officials, then and only then will the trickle down effect help us with this matter and let us have the country we are supposed to be. A nation by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE.

    Sorry for rambling just my $.02

    Mr_Taz_UK (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 8:18 Send private message to this user   
    I decorated my house in lead lined wallpaper, so I'm safe.

    Besides, if you put em in the microwave for a few seconds before you play em, it disables the chip :Þ


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    nohelpme (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 8:23 Send private message to this user   
    tsteege,

    Your point is very valid...he is alluding to the recent US Supreme Court decision that someone can take your land if the government feels that it is in the public good and will help the economy to sell your land to some type of developer. This is nothing new actually its called the something clause and its been around sense the 70's. The difference is that during the ruling it was just the government who could take your property...now a private developer has gained that power. They have to give you fair market value, and it is only intended to be like if your property lies in the middle of a 7000000000 sq foot developement and you are the only one who won't sell..but we know people abuse these rullings and it opens up the green light for a lot of other abuses. So i agree... who care about file sharing and dvd copying when we have things like this happenneing in america.
    nohelpme (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 8:24 Send private message to this user   
    Ok there is no chip.. i don't want some nood blowing up his house with sticking the dvd in the microwave lol
    Mr_Taz_UK (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 8:28 Send private message to this user   
    Hehehehe, told ya.

    do not put DVD's in the microwave !!!

    there. I said it, feel better now :)
    Reasons? (Inactive) 5 July 2005 8:29 Send private message to this user   
    Right, I just use Netflix to back-up my Futurama discs. They got too scrathced to back-up so I got good ones from them to back-up ;)

    Putting a chip on the DVD, that could detect what's happening to it, being copied... Would make th edisc thicker than a DVD player could play. The entire disc is already pretty muched used for the layers and support of them.

    Do you think you could profit out of getting the gold layer off CD-Rs? Hmmmm 33 cent CD-R, gold layer....

    Too bad it's probally microscopically thin.
    Mr_Taz_UK (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 8:35 Send private message to this user   
    to late to redeem yourself now Reasons. The feds are already on their way to your house.

    :)
    Reasons? (Inactive) 5 July 2005 8:40 Send private message to this user   
    I've got a multi-million dollar security system and my trusty 12-gauge Remington (sweet 6-inch eye relief scope by the way, get one) waiting, hahaha they'll never take me down... Ok, maybe they would own me. Especially since I don't have a security system anyway, lol.
    ToxicFish (Member) 5 July 2005 8:43 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    I don't agree with outright stealing on either side. If you don't own the original VHS, DVD, BetaMax, license, whatever it is called stealing, and in turn ripping off the public by charging $80+ for a family to go to the movies is also STEALING.
    Stealing is going to a bar and getting a roman coke for 5 bucks. If they charged what it was worth (50¢), everyone would be wasted and people would be throwing up left and right... Do you really want people to be throwing up from movie overdose? Think about it.
    tsteege (Newbie) 5 July 2005 8:49 Send private message to this user   
    OK lets all go to our respective politicians and throw-up in their offices. :)

    I'm going with Nachos, Gummi Worms, and coke. I wonder if I could write that $30 off my taxes???
    ToxicFish (Member) 5 July 2005 8:50 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    I've got a multi-million dollar security system and my trusty 12-gauge Remington (sweet 6-inch eye relief scope by the way, get one) waiting, hahaha they'll never take me down...
    Why would you get a scope for a shotgun? Personally, i have twin darengers. When the cuffs go on :::cap::: right in the eye.
    Reasons? (Inactive) 5 July 2005 9:09 Send private message to this user   
    tsteege, I am definitely going with mexican food.

    I have two barrels for my 12 gauge. One if rifled and the scope, 1.75x-4x, is attached to the barrel. This I use for deer hunting in MN where rifle zones are scarce. Then I have a smooth barrel with just the bead at the end. This I use for bird/trap/skeet. The scope is really handy at 100 yards against a runner. The barrels are easy to change, 20 seconds. I like how the scope is on the rifled barrel.

    Are we getting off topic?
    Mr_Taz_UK (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 9:37 Send private message to this user   
    Hmmm RIAA .... self defense .... nah sounds ok to me.
    Rotary (AfterDawn Addict) 5 July 2005 10:03 Send private message to this user   
    hi all

    RIAA - sounds like some upper class hooker...

    Guy goes into a red dimly lit back street dive, i'm looking for RIAA - shes busy! i hear cry down the corridor, anyone know when shes free? - be ages yet buddy, shes downloading *WAR OF THE WORLDS*

    lets reflect on that, war of the worlds??? ermm, isnt that happening for real!!!

    laters...
    hursty (AfterDawn Addict) 5 July 2005 10:15 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    With respect, I don't visit the afterdawn site often, I feel that little can be learned
    let me tell you something,pretty much everything i know about dvd,was learned from this site,with other members giving me all the help i needed.

    little can be learned??,then i suppose you are a teacher of all things great on this site then,as obviously nothing on this site is of use to you,and the content of these forums is all baby talk,no ones knows everything,and i suspect you know very little, coming out with comments like that,against a respected member of these forums.and above all, against the good nature of this site.

    i will quote again

    I don't visit the afterdawn site often, I feel that little can be learned
    you should chose your comments wisely against members whether they are new to the site or not

    enough said,and laters

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 July 2005 11:22

    nohelpme (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 10:38 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
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    With respect, I don't visit the afterdawn site often, I feel that little can be learned

    Man lets get Neph in here and let the thunder role....

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    Manu_DVD (Inactive) 5 July 2005 11:25 Send private message to this user   
    @ Mr_Taz_UK:

    Sir your obviously a guy that has no concept of what your even talking about. Go back and have another read shall we!

    That goes to anyone here that quotes and requotes the same old thing.

    If you guys were any brighter you could read why I posted that post. Sorry it seens to be against a low and behold " a respected member ". No disrespect to rotary or any other member for that matter but the comments made justified casual copying and i'm afraid I can't agree with that but I am not surprised to find many uninspired 'I'm cooler than you' nonsense.

    @ hursty (AfterDawn Addict) 5. July 2005 @ 14:15 and also the bandwagon wannabe below his reply.

    Before you blabber your sentences all over our screen's, please stop for a moment and read. I think rotary was more than agreed on the last point from my reading.

    Finally, There are alot of very good and helpful people that use afterdawn, But there are soooo many that are here for other reeason, so unless you can bring some f#####g humour or originality, please don't spit your hatred at me.
    Toiletman (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 12:00 Send private message to this user   
    Manu_DVD: What about your quirky response to Rotary? Tried to ignore it? We didn't.

    Everyone is entitled to their own true opinion. Either respect that or don't.

    This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5 July 2005 12:55

    hursty (AfterDawn Addict) 5 July 2005 12:07 Send private message to this user   
    @ manu.lets get this straight,what exactly are you against?
    piracy as a whole? or just the bit that that effects you?
    have you got a rental shop?,is that what bothers you?

    so are you telling me that you have never copied anything,in any way?
    whether you own the original or not?



    darthnip (Moderator) 5 July 2005 12:07 Send private message to this user   
    you know there's a real simple solution, if you dont like it here, then leave!
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    With respect, I don't visit the afterdawn site often, I feel that little can be learned and most of the time it is a contest of popularity.
    on that point you may be correct, and it's something we will always have to deal with. So seeing as how this is a contest, you just lost.
    Buh bye.

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    nohelpme (Senior Member) 5 July 2005 12:24 Send private message to this user   
    and the thunder roles lol

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    ToxicFish (Member) 5 July 2005 12:51 Send private message to this user   
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    Reasons? (Inactive) 6 July 2005 9:37 Send private message to this user   
    Please don't turn this thread into a flamefest...
    rae2 (Newbie) 8 July 2005 8:43 Send private message to this user   
    I think all of this is a ridiculous waste of time and effort. The ultimate irony though is that 99% of what's being pirated ISN'T EVEN WORTH THE ELECTRONS TO DOWNLOAD IT. The RIAA should be PROSECUTED for FRAUD for by even allowing most of today's recordings to be MADE!

    To my ear and eye, what today passes for "music" and "video" is PURE, UNADULTERATED C.R.A.P. It should be an OFFENCE for the thousands of "me too" virtually indistinguishable no-talent performers to foist the most monotonous, unimaginative, tuneless NOISE on the public and falsely label it as "MUSIC" OR "ART."

    My sympathies to anyone and everyone who wastes their time listening to or watching this garbage!
    Mangalore (Newbie) 8 July 2005 10:07 Send private message to this user   
    Ive learned a lot form this site when it comes to DVD/CD copying. I will contiue to learn. Thanks.

    BUT this thread makes me laugh. At least at the people trying to justify stealing.

    Lets see the two basic excuses:

    1) Charge to much.
    a) Dont buy it dont see it.

    2) The product is crap.
    a) Dont buy it dont see it.

    By downloading it you are proving a point in number one BUT regardless you are breaking the law. You can wait till it goes "discount"/rental. What to much peer pressure to see/hear/play it the day it comes out? No excuse.

    By downloading using number 2's excuse you are not teling them the product is crap you are saying I want it but I dont want to pay for it. I mean if its crap why steal it?

    O wait another excuse.....

    1) The Government/Law should worry about other things.
    a) Let me guess you are speeding and you get pulled over for it. Let me see you tell the officer he should be out catching rapist, murders, etc. instead of stopping you for breaking the law. You wont.

    Sad thing is YOU know it is against the Law/wrong. Why do it? Then why have the "guts" to try and justify what you do is right?

    If you did not "break the law" then the Government wouldnt have to spend so much time/money going after people breaking the law.

    Remember these Movies/Games/Albums,etc. are a LUXURY not a NECESSITY. Some of you people need to wake up and get your priorities straight. Now if you said I know its wrong I do it I will deal with the repercussions if caught, thats fine but to sit here and try to say what most/some of you are doing is right or justified is really really sad.

    Please feel free to comment I love a good discussion.
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