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I apologize if a) you were insulted, and b) you don't like baseball.

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Sorry for the "dumbass" comment, just a little on edge, starting college.

As for the $ symbol, [shrugs shoulders]

All good. I (vaguely) remember those days.

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or maby it will be bancruptcy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I bet they are going to announce a ipod video thing, but who would give a shit because creative, iriver and arcos did that a hundred times better then they could ever

it's an itunes phone

http://snipurl.com/hbrf

Well, that's bloody stupid it is. 25 song cap, that is a half-hearted attempt at what could be an interesting gadget!

They could bring out anything...
I reckon theyll try a portable console thats see through lol
or it could be a handheld mac?

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Maybe they'll finally admit that there OSX congealed in a gutter, and they are replacing it with some real work.

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I reckon theyll try a portable console

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they won't. they'll never be able to compete. it takes years of development and consoles to compete in the market as they are much more technical that video/music player

Lethal, It is possible for them to have been planning this for years.

When the first gameboy came out, Someone at the apple headquarters thought 'Lets make a super gameboy'

Plan it for a couple of years.

Then when sony released PSP info, they knuckled down and started constructing a Portable device.

I'm not sayin dey are going to bring one out but its possible! don't rule it out!!

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Actually, no it isn't possible to already have been developing it. There would almost garunteed be a leak.

Apple has already tried game consoles, and failed worse than the Newton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pippin

Wow, I did not know that, weird. The market is flooded with game systems as it is anyway, they wouldn't have a chance.

hmmmm have to agree with uniique1 about new console, but from what they said about the 1000 songs. Video Ipod could be posible cause remember they did just do the crappy photo one so it could posible

My money is on a video iPod. iTunes has been gearing up for more video content, so it makes sense.

Reasons? do you have any reasons for saying they wouldn't have a chance in the gaming industry............ errrrrrrrr no (chris rock style no LOL)

Also apple has alot of money to spend due to the success of the ipod, It wouldn't suprise me if they released a console.

Yep making a video ipod also makes sense

i wouldn't rule out a portable mac either

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Reasons? do you have any reasons for saying they wouldn't have a chance in the gaming industry............ errrrrrrrr no (chris rock style no LOL)

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One would hope that they learned from their previous attempt at a gaming console. However, it *does* make *some* sense. The Mac Mini would be a very good media pc, so it would stand to reason that it coule be made into a console as well, after beefing it up some.

However, I don't see it happening anytime soon.

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Disclaimer: This is MY analysis, in short, very short. And I could be wrong.

Condsider first what Apple was before the ipod, they were nothing to the average joe, nothing, at school you used their computers and talked with your friends about how they blew. That's it, Apple and their OS were entirely unsucessful in the big picture of the multi-billion dollar industry. Most new the word MAC and not who made them. People here might have know, but your afterdawn poeople, not the consumer base for electronics.

The success of the ipod sparked the success of their OS and other hardware etc. The general consumer became much more open to idea of an MP3 player (long time ago). And so came success.

Think about the majority of poeple who bought the ipods. Do they game? Are they the type to buy a new next gen console? If they did buy a console out of pure Apple fanaticism, woudl they buy many games? Have time for the games?

Not only would Apple fight an already established group of console manufacturers, but their loyalty base is comprised of people who wouldn't buy a console, much less from them, if they were interested in gaming. Those of us sitting here, if we were faced with a portable or home console, we would most definitely choose something we already have faith in, the PSP, and the PS3/360/revolution. Would you really risk your hard earned money on one console, that hasn't been time tested?

There is hands down too much competition, and if Jobs is a big enough idiot, he could try and then fail again. I doubt it, but if it does happen, it will be a failure. This include portable consoles. The base isn't there poeple, and if their marketing analysist can't figure this out, he's going to get fired.

I forgot to add this...

It's kind-of time to come back down on the OS war, seriously.

Here is what each side has mainly.

Windows- Vast thrid party software, most usability, highest compatibility, gaming etc. High security risks.

OSX- Safe, reliable, secure, and pretty. No games, expensive and inferior architecture.

Now, the windows side of things is pretty cut and dried, but OSX has it in store for you. What you don't understand is that OSX isn't any more secure. IT ISN'T, it's low popularity keeps hackers and virus/malware/apyware/adware writers from WASTINNG THEIR TIME writing to such a small group of victims, when they can write and infect the masses who have windows.

The moment OSX or any other operating system, controlls enough market share, the writers will rip it to pieces. And with no experience like MS has, Apple will be SOL, struggling in a world they thought they were safe.

OSX is only safer because no one wants to write malware for every 50th person. OSX will be in the same boat if it becomes too popular.

"The moment OSX or any other operating system, controlls enough market share, the writers will rip it to pieces. And with no experience like MS has, Apple will be SOL, struggling in a world they thought they were safe.

OSX is only safer because no one wants to write malware for every 50th person. OSX will be in the same boat if it becomes too popular."

Apple doesnt need the experience MS has ; which I might add would be lackluster in security anyway. Seeing as how long it takes MS to address security issues in their OS as well as their software. Apple has a MUCH faster reponse time to patching / addressing security issues with their OS/software.


as for OSX not being secure just because Apple holds a meger percentage of the market is asnine. OSX security comes from its using a security based OS as its core code (BSD). OSX was designed to be more secure from the get go.

It's not the fact that windows has more market than Apple, which obviously is a BIG factor. It's the fact that windows is INHERENTLY insecure on a default install!

Default windows install - No administrator password!!
RPC - Enabled...WHY??? - Lot of worms loved this one!
IE - well, long list!
Many more, but this isn't about bashing OSs' so I won't derail the thread anymore.

I think it will be the iTunes phone in the announcement, I don't think it's that amazing, but they do I guess! It may surprise us all and do what the iPod has done, but, not long to wait and we'll all know.

DMW, my install of winxppro set an admin account and required a password.

Sadjoker, OMG, dude you have no idea what your talking about, look at my sig and the definition of anecdotal in a dictionary buddy.

I don't know if they do actually patch their OS faster, but how do you come up with that one? Where is your evidence?

A security based OS? Linux and Windows aren't? You have no idea what a kernel or scripting shell etc... is do you?

How stupid can people be. These are things that aren't even mentioned in my textbooks and studies.

Everything I told you is stuff my professors casually talk about, because to someone with any knowlege of computers knows it, and it isn't worth actually having a lesson on. LOL, your post is hilarious dude, and I don't want you to take any offense from this but, damn, programs are programs, and no matter how far they go, there will be holes, no matter what the architecture or OS.

I feel like a broken record having to tell people these simple little things.

Reasons?,
Yep Pro asks for an admin password, but home, which the average user has, doesnt and makes the default user an admin!?!
Just doesn't seem logical to me, but a lot of it doesn't.

I personally would like OSx to be released commercially for the PC platform. It may never beat MS or even come close, but at least it would be one more alternative for users.

It's more than likely the phoen that will be hyped up, but the flash mini os on it's way too.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122359,tk,dn083105X,00.asp

Posting at the same time as me I see.

I was guessing it was home edition that would pull that. It's the same thing as how wireless routers come with one button no security set up.

The companies are so focused on ease of use, and they are for a good reason, that average consumer (Adult, who can buy a computer, then their kids end up knowing it and running it) can't deal with with concepts above th einternet a minimal word processing skills. You coulding ask them how to display formatting marks in microsoft word, of course you can't ask that of most people.

It is a bad choice, but they want to make money first. At least they have automatic updates for people, that's a godsend in itself.

Reasons , I'll admit I ran my mouth a little faster than I shouldve w/o taking more time to think about it. I'll that. Oh and no offence taken to your points you made about my post. I was wrong for the most part, I can accept that.

Anyway, yup any and all software is evidentily gunna have flaws / bugs in it no matter what. OSX is no exception neither is Linux, Windows, BSD etc.

And with that, Ive made enough of an ass of myself for one wk so shutting up now

Being able to admit fault is all the redemtion one needs. That's something you can rarely find in people, much less online.