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| Mr-Movies (Member) 11 November 2005 10:17 |
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Just because you can find it doesn't mean you can remove it easily.
I had two zero length files dropped on my desktop when downloading a couple of files. They were Trojans that were attributed ASH. Since I enable viewing of hidden and system files it showed up faintly on my Desktop. I couldn't change the attributes or delete them even when booting into PURE DOS or booting using Sysinternals. In DOS I couldn't even see or find the files Sysinternal would find them but was not able to delete or change their attributes. I didn't try a raw disk editor I'm sure that would have worked instead I choose to reformat and install Windows all over.
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| davolente (Newbie) 11 November 2005 11:20 |
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Re: retec (Newbie) 11 November 2005 9:04
Slightly off-topic, but I had the same trouble with audio. Copied privately-recorded reel-to-reel tapes (good old analogue - obviously!) on to mini-disc. Did some rudimentary editing (as you can with Mini-Disc) and digitally copied it on to CD using a stand-alone CD recorder. Fine, until I tried to do a third-generation digital copy from that CD on my stand-alone kit and the SCMS (Serial Copy Management System) kicked in and arrogantly told me I couldn`t do it. Damn cheek! "That`s what you think", I thought and promptly did it on the PC. At what stage was the SCMS flag inserted, I wonder? And why should it have done so at all, if the original material was analogue?
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 11 November 2005 11:33 |
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It is possible you have your rights management set which would then do that on your PC. I turn off all protection schemes MS likes to invoke and is set by defualt.
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| davolente (Newbie) 11 November 2005 12:16 |
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Re: Mr-Movies (Junior Member) 11 November 2005 16:33
I think you mis-read my post. This all happened on stand-alone hi-fi equipment - not on the PC. I actually got my final third generation copy fine by doing it on the PC. No problem. My gripe is that the SCMS cut in on the hi-fi gear when the original material was my own, personal, private analogue recordings. (Of a birthday party as it happens!) Why the hell should the equipment deny me making as many copies as I wish of my own stuff? If I didn`t have a PC, I wouldn`t have been able to do it.
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 11 November 2005 12:46 |
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Sorry davolente,
Your right I thought you had the same problem on the PC.
So your SA recorder is inserting copy protection so that you can't make multiple copies, WONDERFUL you got to love that. I wonder if my LiteOn does that I've never tried doing that, Hummm you just have to love Sony. I wonder if you can get a modified firmware to fix your problem my guess is you can. It might be worth looking for a flash disc for that.
Again my mistake on the misread sorry...
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| davolente (Newbie) 11 November 2005 13:24 |
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Mmmm. How did you guess the Mini-Disc recorder was a Sony, huh? Mind you, I have experimented with just my two stand-alone hi-fi CD recorders (Philips and Pioneer), connecting them to other play-back decks in the house and I still get the SCMS block on a third-generation digital copy, even though, once again, the original source was my old analogue tapes. I fail to see why that should be. I would assume that the SCMS flag would only come from a digital source, such as a commercial CD. The SCMS obviously assumes I`m up to no good, regardless!
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| sirenia (Junior Member) 11 November 2005 14:08 |
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retec could you tell me about this program you found on the internet, i have had the same problem i taped my sons allstar little league game and promised the parents copies on dvd i made one after hours only not to be able to copy it, i certainly dont want to do it from scratch for 12 other people. Thanks in advance.
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 11 November 2005 14:09 |
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I beleive it is your SA recorders that are putting the DRM on your copy and when you try to back them up again it is stopping you as if you are cheating, no matter if the original source was anolog or digital.
If it was digital and had rights management then it might block you right away.
I assumed you were talking about Sony because this is about Sony products you didn't say in your post of course.
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 11 November 2005 14:25 |
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| wild77 (Inactive) 11 November 2005 15:41 |
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F**K SONY and any other corporation that will sink to this level because of there greed!
They will never get any of my MONEY!
It is also rumored that SONY is working on technology for the PS3 that will only let you play your game on the first console it is used with.So when your box dies all your games will be useless!
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| phantasee (Newbie) 11 November 2005 18:41 |
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If you play a game on your PS3, it'll only work on that PS3? Sorry, but that's so bullshit it's not even funny. That's a rumour that shouldn't be spread.
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| sirenia (Junior Member) 11 November 2005 19:14 |
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Thanks I will give it a try it will be a blessing if it works, i dont want to have to make all these copies the hard way, and that is how i got to watch the game i bribed one of the other parents to tape it and i would make them all a copy yikes!!!!!!! thanks again.
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| evilh0ly (Senior Member) 11 November 2005 19:27 |
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anyone know that AnyDVD will prevent the rookit from download at the first place. god i love anydvd
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| wild77 (Inactive) 11 November 2005 20:37 |
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Edit double post
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11 November 2005 21:38
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| wild77 (Inactive) 11 November 2005 20:38 |
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Quote: If you play a game on your PS3, it'll only work on that PS3? Sorry, but that's so bullshit it's not even funny. That's a rumour that shouldn't be spread
I found this link at Doom9 a pretty reliable source for news SONY can shove there PS3 and BLU-RAY right up there A**
Read this
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=27568
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| Run4two (Junior Member) 12 November 2005 5:48 |
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"build it up, now take it apart...
Climbed up real high, now fall down real far..."
Never thought that NIN song Wish was about Sony, but it is.
I'm done with Sony. My next ________ will be anything but Sony! Fill in the blank with anything they make. I hope they get their head handed to them over their deceat, hipocricy, and greed!
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| Auslander (AfterDawn Addict) 12 November 2005 7:48 |
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that's it. i officially hate Sony. F**k you, Sony, you're getting no more of my money.
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 12 November 2005 10:54 |
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Its funny Sony has been bad for years now, but no one was complaining before the DRM attack. My suggestion is to not just buy anything from anyone because once you had good luck with them. Also I have never found that one company does everything great but there are many people that consume in that fashion. If Sony wakes up and changes their ways I’ll buy from them again however it will be some time before they will change enough.
All companies seem to cycle in there product value and quality as it seems they get greedy when times are good and try to live off their laurels in which they get crappy.
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| OzMick (Senior Member) 12 November 2005 11:57 |
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Hey, there were more than a few of us who weren't buying from Sony a long time before this happened. Their attitude towards customers has been shithouse for a very long time. Nobody remembers the whole PSP faulty button problem with the original design. One of the buttons refused to work, and Sony's response was not to rectify the situation, but told people to stick it, that was how the device was designed, and they should adapt. And then there were the dodgy first releases of their DRU line of dual format burners... Then there is the crappy stereo I bought from them when I was like 12 that cost $450 and was pretty much a steaming piece of crap. Then the walkman I got with the dodgy laser 12 months later.....
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| Run4two (Junior Member) 12 November 2005 13:29 |
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OzMick,
Please elaborate,
What do you mean by the first DRU burners being dodgy. I have burnt over 700 on my DRU 500 with both formats, both recordable and rewriteble. It's the most amazing piece of equipment I've bought. That being said, it's one of my last from Sony. No more. No more. I will look to make sure that Sony will not profit from anything I buy from this day on. Quite a shame, I hope my aunt doesn't lose her job at the Sony plant nearby in Ranch Bernardo, Calfornia.
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 12 November 2005 14:29 |
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OzMick see what I mean, I agree with you the DRU-500 was doggy and very expensive I could get a LiteOn much cheaper and it is better but people still loved getting ripped off by Sony. One of my friends bought that burner and has had plenty of problems with it mean while my LiteOn kept doing what his couldn't. Then he even went out and bought the 700 as if he didn't learn on the last one.
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| freshguy (Member) 12 November 2005 19:37 |
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I am not impressed with the overall quality of Sony products. To be fair, I will concede that their VAIO line of computers is reasonably decent. Other than that, in my opinion the performance level of Sony products is at the low end of the scale. Even their renowned Playstation has proven to be less than durable. I went through 3 Playstations and am currently on my 2nd PS2.
The sound quality of Sony audio components is comparable to great brands such as "K-Pro" and "Valu-King". Sony is to Marantz and Denon as what MD 2020 and Thunderbird are to Dom Perignon.
Having said that, Sony would be wise to rethink this arrogantly agressive strategy of infecting our computers and other electronic devices with their immoral cybervermin. These activities are a disgusting slap in the face to all consumers, and should in fact prove to be illegal, at least in a court not affected by corporate corruption.
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| Mr-Movies (Member) 12 November 2005 20:18 |
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I have a friend with a VAIO Intel 677MHz notebook and we tried to upgrade his RAM which is 144 pin standard stuff supposively but when we put the new memory in it wouldn't run. The memory that was in there was double sided cheap memory and this was single sided decent stuff. It ran in my Trogon AMD K6 300 no problem and my old notebook would run his memory. So you tell me is VAIO good?
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| freshguy (Member) 12 November 2005 22:04 |
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I don't think that I ever used the word "good" in reference to Sony anywhere in my post. To answer your question, I can only go by my own experience but I am currently using a VAIO desktop. It runs XP with a P4 2.4 GHz cpu and 512 Meg of RAM. In the 2.5 years that I've used it I haven't had anything too terrible go wrong with it so I think that would qualify as "reasonably decent".
If you take a glance back at my previous post you will find that I did not have anything good to say about Sony, and in fact Mr-Movies, I pretty much said that they are a company run by BLEEPheads, that produces a lot of low-grade crap.
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Manufacturer Sony Corporation
System Model PCV-RZ22G(UC)
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 15 Model GenuineIntel ~2394 Mhz
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Locale United States
Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
Total Physical Memory 512.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 118.00 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.97 GB
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| OzMick (Senior Member) 13 November 2005 10:49 |
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What I mean by saying that they were dodgy:
Back in the day when I was looking for a burner I made the decision that I was going to be patient and wait for the new dual-format (+/-) burners to come out before committing to one or the other. And then WOW! The Sony line was the first to hit the stores, and I almost got swept up and bought one at the markets straight away. Luckily, there was a bit of a lag between Australia receiving them, so I hit the forums and read up a bit and came across an absolute ton of people complaining about noisy drives or media incompatibilities. And seeing as media was still pretty expensive back then, I figured I could wait a little while. Then the Pioneer drives came out. Haven't had a worry in the world with that one, and they get recommended by me to everyone I know. But then yeah, LiteOn have theirs around now, so they're always a great option too.
"I love it when a plan comes together..."
John "Hannibal" Smith
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| Reasons? (Inactive) 13 November 2005 13:15 |
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Haven't checked this threa din awhile but, to the one who posted underneath mine- Virus scanning in your e-mail should show the virus, even id it's a rootkit, because it hasn't had a chance to hide itself yet, it's just a single file attachment.
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