i do admit creatives are a piece of junk... i had mine for a month never droped it and had to get ti repaired 3 times ipod much better i have a video now
i like it.........

ipod is not overrated you get what you pay for... i have an ipod and i had and heard of other mp3 players and they are ntohing compaired to an ipod... ipod are pretty good in quality and style... nothing can beat it i dont think... i think they should get rid of the shuffle tho i dont like it at all i had 3 of them they break to easy when you have it on a necklace... ihad it on a necklace and the thing fell off so many times... if they remove the shuffle and bring in the 1 gig nanos then that would be a good idea... i think they should also bring back the mini... those things sold alot too... but its their choices what they should and shouldnt have... the mini i guess would suck now unless they were in color.... but thats pretty much what the nano... the video is awesome too... what i dont like is the creative batter last longer in video mode than the ipod... and the creative can play different extention types rather than the ipod mp4... the video is pretty nice too and how itunes offers videos is great too... it all depends on what you are looking for...

i agree with factor the ipod is not overated i liek it i only got 20 gig lefton my 30 after 3 days i have liek 6 full length movies.... its fine once you get the right converter this ones free

http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/download.php
id never got back

creative will never come out with video because there too cheap and they dont want to risk it.

Also I think half the people geting Ipod for christmas will return it because there to dumb to know how to use it,

My grandma got my cousin one and he dont even own a computer, Sob

20gb iRiver iH120!

-Mike

bwhaha im happy with my video
*cough 30 gig cough better then 20 cough*

lol bout it without evan ahveing a computer.... i thought every one had a computer :/

The IPOD is so dam crap!!! The sound half the time is either got 2 much treble and not enough bass or is just distorted and all fucked up

ahh prolli not

*cough I would change 10 gigs for DivX support,tv out,cammera,audio corder....oh wait i did Gmini 402 camcorder! cough* lol

wats so good about DivX?

I'll take that as a joke....

im seriouse i dont use DivX for nothin wats it good for?

Ignorance is bliss....haha you sure you have a computer?

DivX is a digital video compression format based on the MPEG-4 technology. DivX files can be downloaded over high-speed lines in a relatively short time without sacrificing the quality of the digital video. Often used on the Internet to exchange video files.

It is real good because it can compress movies, from like 7gb all the way down to 700mb without noticing any difference in quality.

-Mike

There you go.Thanks for the info Mike ;)

My Pleasure :P

-Mike

hehe i didnt no that ..... wats the good points about .AVI files?

AVIs are the end effect of DivX, XviD etc. The file/s that are made after encoding are usually AVIs.

-Mike

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creative will never come out with video because there too cheap and they dont want to risk it.

Also I think half the people geting Ipod for christmas will return it because there to dumb to know how to use it,

My grandma got my cousin one and he dont even own a computer, Sob

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Don't post unless you know what you are talking about, please!

http://news.designtechnica.com/article9010.html

I'll be buying one!

iPod is a fad, that's why it so popular. But because it got so popular Apple cranked some serious money into and made a nice product. I love my 6GB mini and am probably soon to get the video. The click wheel is addictive and a lovable and intuative interface for casual consumers.

Let's face it, I woudl buy sony instead anyday, IF SOny supported AAC. Come on mp3 is legacy nowadays, unless you hate free drive space.

It doesen't help that iPod include that DRM crap. I also dislike the fact that you must use iTunes to transfer your tracks.. would be better to use Windows Explorer.

Also don't like the fact that you can't share music with friends through their PC..

-Mike

You can, just open it up liek a USB mass storage device. ANd in the folder everyhting will be named super f'ed up with letter ocmbinations, but it doens't matter the ID3 tags are all intact and when you drag and drop the files to your program the program has all the tagging info.

My sister and I just got the iPod Video's 30GB in white and Black. I like it more than the creative because you can download music video's and other things from iTunes. The software is preferably easier to use. I've owned a Creative Zen Micro and wasn't happy with the interface.

The more I compare apple to creative, the more I want creative.

I must admit the ipod video had me curious, kinda of a cool idea you could buy vids from apple. Then it dawned on me that it would only work with ipods and nothing else.

The creative 30gig visions can use a whole bunch of different formats, insert memory cards and then to top it off you can play the output to your TV (don't know if I'd really do that, but damn). Thats a big plus for me since I was already using DVD2PPC.

ipod has marketing behind it which gives them the edge, but I would like to see creative do some marketing of their own. I think at that point in time apple would face real competion in the market from the people that are easily influenced by advertising and not the informed.

@ rosedog, i agree, creative is better, and the player your talking about is the Creative Zen Vision. but my uncle just got a 60 gb video ipod. and its just so fuckin sexy ya know what i mean, everything else is just ugly compared to it. btw, anyone see the new Zen Vision:M, exact ipod interface and look, you can see it on the creative site. http://www.creative.com but i also have a beefed up pc and a notebook with only 60 gigs of storage, so a 60 gig ipod would be lovely. infact, they should make a little port in all notebooks where you can slide in an ipod and use it as your hdd. if your looking for alot of storage for a very good price, get the Creative Zen Xtra, good quality, i saw walmart.com and newegg.com were selling a 60 gig model for $170

Yes, I do like my Creative Zen Xtra, but it's not hot-pluggable, which is a downer. But, compared to most other players, it does have better audio output, thanks to EAX:). I also really like the uber-cool features that the Vision:M will supply, so when the pricing is lowered, I'll be thinking of getting one.

So, all in all, the iPod is a pretty cool gadget, but my monotone ringtones on my out-of-date cellphone sound a lot better in comparison.