well i wasnt flaming anyone, giving my 2 cents ;-)

Dela, I was generalizing not point any fingers at anyone. Sorry if you thought I was targeting you.

Puts hand up for a Sandisk Sansa :)

Let us know about the battery life...and what program it uses to put music in the cute thing....how you like the download software...Then I might buy one..

Nano rocks!!

OoOh! Liquidmetal! LOL

I was hoping it would at least be 10 posts before this turned into a flame war, but w/e.

That Samsung looks really nice, but I'd prefer that SanDisk. That seems to be some heavy-duty protection, which I find very nice for that kind of thing.

I'm not really bothered if it doesn't have a battery life over 30 hours though (you have to go sometime, right?), but hopefully these two will be able to have better sound quality in comparison. That's just me though :).

The samsung looks small and sleek.

FINALLY

Ive been cringing and struggling my hardest not to jump into this new IPOD trend.. everyone has them and quite frankly i love them....

but ive been holding out for reasons.. this new samsung gadget is one of those reasons... I knew someday they would make a bigger(or should i say smaller), better, more compatible and cheaper product as time goes by.. now im just gonna try and hold out for another year.. and watch the price tag drop.... but yes.... this samsung player seems to catch my eye.. and only make it harder for me to hold out for the cheaper price...

i'll hate to see what they come up with next.. for a even better price

Finally something new! I was tempted this xmas to buy the Nano just because there was nothing better, but it would of made me feel very sick, and ashamed to give my money to a company that makes products, that yes look very trendy but just dont perform in my opinion. My brother has an ipod mini, and personally i think it's awful, when it first came out i thought it looked kinda cool, but after looking and playing with it further i find it boring looking and annoyig to use...so thank god someone has brought out an alternative, hopefully the sandisk and samsing wont have the same flaws as iPod Nano (Loves scratched etc). I think i will go with the sandisk as it looks good and has the ability to take memory cards. I think if you buy an apple product you have been seriously done, i have read a few apple enthusiast websites and when someone ask them "Why did you buy an apple computer?" they get very offended, apple computer owners say that their Apple computer look better than a normal PC but personally i think the Sony Viao's look alot cooler than all of the apple computer that are on the market... so yeah i hate apple and thank god i dont have to buy one of their thingys!

Ditto on the Sandisk. I'm going to check it out at Best Buy or wherever. I like the idea of the memory card expansion. One of these days we will be able to plug these fellows into the chips planted in our brains!

I am a mac user since the 80s and on Mac boards I am booed off the board when I refute the I have no problems with XP or when remarks are made about MSFT by people who have never used a PC.Love Vaios and Toshibas. And I hope to love a Sandisk Mp3 player along with my battery draining iPod.

I like the white color of the iBook and iPod, however. Anyway for a woman.

samintx-you are the 1st apple consumer i have come across that has not flared up in defence for apple, i respect that...Just adding to my point from earlier, i have used Apple computers alot so i have experience and my personal opinion is that they dont compare to PCs in almost every aspect, I have a top spec HP PC which kicks ass along with my personal touch to it, but i will say my HP PC is butt ugly! i might paint it a nice cream color!

OK I Own an iPod Video 60 GB and it sold for $400. Yes I was going to get one of those Plays For Sure WMV players that can also play WMA's (with DRM) and of course Mp3's too. However since I can already crack most DRM on the video services I turned to the iPod video and use videora iPod converter to convert my video's to iPod Mp4's which are superior to the WMV format and hold a very close competition to DivX and XviD files. Its really easy to use videora and not to mention that I can crack all the DRM files in iMesh to save to my iPOD. Yes you have to use iTUNES to read your music or video folders to transfer to the iPOD, but its really not a big deal. If your holding out on an iPOD because you think you can't Download video from say LimeWire or Ares and convert to the iPod think again. And for Music even subscription services like iMesh which is only $7/Mo if you were a beta tester when it first came out well then your miss informed. Also think of it this way. The more people that buy iPods the lower the prices will be as well. Their video format is the best and if everyone used Mp4's instead of all this DivX codec, XviD codec, whatever whatever then you'd have less fakes out p2p because the Quicktime codec works great period.

i have an ipod mini (green with envy), so I'm not complaining about apple, except that I hate itunes (it doesn't like my pirated songs). But what I do hate, is that so many new and better things are coming out so fast, that I almost wish I waited. I'm really feeling this with cell phones where just about everyone has a 2-year contract now and will just have to wait an eternity (at least that's what it feels like) to get the next thing!

The bottem line is this Apple owns the mp3 music playing market. Nike Air Jordans $150 dollars plus tax alot of money for shoes. you may be asking where am I going with this. People buy things that are IN. No one is going to respect san disk or samsung mp3 players like they whould an Ipod. People jock the shit out of my Nano, oh it so cute, oh its so small. You can pratically get a girl in the sack if yours is shiney lol. san disk no props, Ipod props

I've been holding out for a long time to buy an mp3 player bought for myself, and I have to say that the Sandisk seems very appealing to me besides the iPod. I hope the navigation of the UI is easy to use, and not crazy heavy since its made of a material thats stronger than steel. Just as long as it doesnt scratch easily.

As for iPods, I liked the first few models but now I cant stand them now. I cant justify the high cost and it lack the things that I want in an mp3 player. Yes I love the no-nonsense minimalistic design of iPods (and apple design in general), but I don't buy things for only the way it looks, it has to have the features that I want and need. I cant say that iPods do that for me.

Yes I love my macs and am a mac fan in every way ( and my pcs too), and started using both computers within the same week for 8 years now. I consider myself a unbiased mac user though, I don't defend then for the sake of it, if theres products I don;t like from them, then I'll be flaming it, the same goes for pc products as well. I go with whatevers suits my needs, not whoever makes it just b/c I like the maker.

As for what samintx has experienced on mac forums. I experienced tons of hostility too. I mentioned that I love Microsoft Office (mac version) but favor it more on the mac than I do my pc. They agreed with that point but I got blasted for saying that mac users should acknowledge and be thankful that Microsoft made an excellent Office app. I couldn;t believe it!

Yes Microsoft (actually their MBU does) makes it and I know these mac forum members were just being brand loyal, but get a grip people! get a life! Here I am a crazy mac fan myself, being flamed by others. this only happened when I was on forums with people who loved pcs. I just cant stand it when people say they hate this and that just b/c their a fan of a certain manufacturer. I tihnk people get way too defensive about which is better (especially mac users). the mac and pc is is old, dumb and pointless. Alot of pc users have asked me why I use macs, I just tell them that I love them, and wonder why I also know so much about windows as well. And their eyes bugout in utter shock when I tell them that I love the pcs I own as well.

Anyhow, the only way I'll buy an iPod nano if they make the video screen bigger, watching vids on that small screen is rediculous small. Size does matter. I think I'm just get a PSP for watching vids. also make it with scratch resistant shell. Although I own 4 iPods in the past, the mini being the 4th, all were b-day and xmas gifts. I would never buy one for myself unless they added something like sirius or xm to it, or I'd buy from any maker if they added that.

later guys

macDiesal: what about if they added Desperate Housewives? ;-)

only an idoit would buy an ipod seriously 1/3 to half the price isnt actually paying for the player ur paying them for nothing!!!! u r paying for a name not a quality product its OUTRAGEUS 400$ for A 60GB ipod video and the product qaulity is so bad i mean my crap has more quality than an ipod!!!!(i dont mean to offend anyone just trying to get my point across)

i can get a media player with all the features of an ipod but alot cheaper and a good name brand too!!!!!!!

I have a nanoPOD and I like it OKAY. I have a crashing problem with it though. I don't think that I would recommend that anyone buy the first generation of this product.

I had the 20G. It was nice, but two heavy.

I am glad to see the competition in this market.

Stats:

* Holday quarter 2005 best quarter on record for Apple (who turns 30 this year) with $5.7 billion total revenue.
* 14 million iPods sold during holiday quarter 2005 (far beyond 4.5 million sold during same quarter 2004). Over 100 iPods sold per minute during entire quarter.
* 42 million iPods sold since launch in 2001. 32 million in 2005 alone.
* 850 million songs sold through iTMS
* iTMS has 83% market share

I like the Nano;s looks, but I got to say that samsung is not bad indeed. I wonder how you scroll through ur songs cause i look to scroll through fast

Just one more thing to add... in the US 40% of the automobiles made in 2006 will offer Ipod options! Not samslung or sandick option, no snowny or others

IPOD

See stats above, Ipod has WON. Itunes has won.

Just making the obvious points

(nearly everything I own is samsung... Ive said that I am a big fan before)

Just that Ipod is the victor, its the age old argument about Microsoft and how some people think they wont be on top forever. Hate to say it but all the Linux and other crap out there will NEVER topple Windows! You need to pay attention to the fact that most people arnt tech savy and dont want anything other than what is SIMPLE. If people can just point and click, or scroll and click they will. Only the nerds that get so worked up about widgits and ram stats are pissy.

Just post your opinion in one of the forms about someting out of the norm and the pocket protectors will fly...

ipod nanos are gay,all you ipod lovers can kiss my ass,samsung yp z5 wut! whos down with that?

The nano had so many problems. Well I know the day after Christmas their was slight chaos on the message boards for the nano because it didn't seem to be working well with the new itunes.

Nickit...I get flamed on mac boards because I feel macs are great but I would not want it as my only computer feeling PCs do some things better. If a software program or computer does not do what you need done I don't care if it is an Apple, PC or whatever...just as long as the job gets done easily that is the program or computer I use.

I really think switchers are are going to be sorry after a while. I can't tell you the things I like better on a PC but when I'm on a mac on the web I certainly can.

They both look really good Does anyone have an idea on the price range?

i still think the nano is gay