...how many have actualy been prosecuted in the UK so far??
1000? maybe 2000? I would guess not more than that.

And how many people uploading pirate material of all kinds?
...lets (conservatively) say, 1 in 70 out of say 16 million PC users.. ...that's 228,000

2000/228,000 = 0.877% or 1 in 114

...an educated guess but probably not too far out.

Pls ignore bit about which software - 3 February 2006 12:41

ahemm ...hadn't read about peerguardian when I posted this message :o.

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...how many have actualy been prosecuted in the UK so far??
1000? maybe 2000? I would guess not more than that.

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Well actually, those numbers are way off, as well as inspecific. The number of people to be fined by the BPI (British Phonographic) is no more than 100, and even less for movie & software sharing.

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And how many people uploading pirate material of all kinds?
...lets (conservatively) say, 1 in 70 out of say 16 million PC users.. ...that's 228,000

2000/228,000 = 0.877% or 1 in 114

...an educated guess but probably not too far out.

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An educated guess indeed, but well off the mark. There has not even been a quarter of the number of people sued worldwide of the two hundred-or-so thousand suggested..

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a few thoughts as i read the comments:

1. it still is illegal in the uk to rip a cd
2. software piracy which isn't just sharing, i.e. selling pirated software at a market etc, is a crimal offence and can carry a jail term
3. isp can not have to give out data until they have an order from the high court, thats our data protection act
4. and were some what protected by the data protection act.

some of that may be slightly off but thats the just of what my Professional issues class said

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1. it still is illegal in the uk to rip a cd

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I am not saying that is incorrect, but why then, aren't cd rippers & softwares illegal?

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2. software piracy which isn't just sharing, i.e. selling pirated software at a market etc, is a crimal offence and can carry a jail term

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Obviously, but this is mainly discussion on digital piracy ;-)

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Lethal_B,

I wasn't suggesting that 228,000 had been sued wordwide.

The point of what I was saying was that very few people have been prosecuted, more importantly than the actual figures.

Here in the States, I have seen Rippers for DVD and CD's for sale in stores. I wonder how illegal it is.

DVD ripper in stores? Thats new to me..

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@coolbrz:

What part of the country do you live in? And more importantly, what store do you go to?

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what the fudge is an unlimited fine? Those europeans are crazy.

It means they cant put a maximum fine on the crime because the amount of songs can vary..

How are the europeans crazy? We in Britain have had <100 people sued for filesharing offences, whereas America is over the 15,000 mark. Now That's crazy!

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What i don't get is why they choosed Anti-Softaware piracy compain rather than Anti-music piracy like in US.
I mean music was always and still the top piracy object. Do they think that music paricy isnt big thread in UK (i dissagree)??
For softwares. I think camponies should produce 2 editions for every program, say Adobe photoshop 2 editions one is for non-business use with affordable price and other one is for business rate with higher price. I think that would get ppl bit off piracy.

so then the businesses will buy the non-business priced software, afterall, they're business is all about making money, so why spend more than they need to.. it is business, and it's their business which one they buy.

Are there any more facts on this?

Does anyone know who the 10 UK ISPs are that have been ordered to divulge?

Were they looking for any software, or just that of the "Federation Against Software Theft" members, and if so who are they and their products?

What are the usual fines/damages for this? I don't think there has been similar in the UK before for software uploading, although I'm sure there has been for "car boot sale" sales. Does it make any difference if there is no profit motive?

NO cause edition for non-business will have less features and functions, when business edition will have full version.

HI if you are downloading on mIRC, which is one way traffic can they trace you as easy

Mirc displays your ip and the ip of the connected pc (to you and your connection) everytime you send/receive a file. Without knowing the ip address of the pc to get your file...how else can you connect to that individual pc? Over the last 2 yrs several mIRC ops have been caught aiding and abbetting (mainly in film channels)infact actively encouraging filesharing! The use of virtual hosts, which many ops use, do not hide your ip when sending/receiving files.

Even the disclaimer often seen on joining networks offerring Bill Clintons protection is a nonsense !
This is one of the reasons that many mIRC users now only share with known sharers or friends only, and for the increasing use of server-bots in channels.
Dont want to get caught....Dont serve !


24/7 mIRC user.

if you cant do the time....dont do the crime


if you abuse the system,then one day you are going to get burnt...its as simple as that.

there is a risk in downloading/uploading pretty much anything these days,and this subject has been talked about in depth many a time,always with the same summary...> dont take the risk if you are worried about getting caught
no-one can really defend there actions if they are prosecuted,as much as it stinks......

use newsgroups...fast downloads,with no sharing,not free but worth every penny,(so my mate says)

i dont personally download anything...i bought all of my 600 ps2 games.honest

I ahve seen CD/DVD rippers in staples and curcit city and big lots *L* scary aint it 0-o

pete444Newbie

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HI if you are downloading on mIRC, which is one way traffic can they trace you as easy

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Except no one has ever been sued for downloading on mIRC and there is a reason for that.

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use newsgroups...fast downloads,with no sharing,not free but worth every penny,(so my mate says)

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Love the way you crawled out of that one, hursty! Classic!

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hursty
hate to tell you if pll dont share/upload to the newsgroup then there would be nothing to download on the newsgroup :P

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ZIppyDSM

thanks for pointing that out,i would have never have known that...

newsgroups are totally different to file-sharing programs,thats why they are not free.
you are not traceable on newsgroups.

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^^
they might be but I never found them *L*

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hey might be but I never found them *L*

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not sure what you meant there matey....:)

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Except no one has ever been sued for downloading on mIRC and there is a reason for that.

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sued...perhaps not, just arrested and all your gear confiscated and poss a bit of jail time.

http://www.wwlegal.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=213

24/7 Mirc