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File sharing 'contained' says RIAA chief

13 June 2006 15:47 by Ben "Lethal_B" Reid | 41 comments

File sharing 'contained' says RIAA chief The CEO of The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) believes that the illegal swapping of copyrighted music online has been "contained," saying the legal digital downloads continues to expand while unorthorized music trading online has seen flat growth.

"The problem has not been eliminated," says RIAA CEO Mitch Bainwol. "But we believe digital downloads have emerged into a growing, thriving business, and file-trading is flat."

The Supreme Court Ruling back in June of last year ruled that P2P services could be held accountable for the activites of users. As a result, several P2P networks were closed including WinMX in September and Grokster last November.

Despite the closure of many P2P networks, the trading of music files online still remains popular. According to Internet analysis firm BigChampagne, 10 million users now swap files, which is an increase from 8.7 million last year. But the firm also added that the rapid rise in Internet piracy is now beginning to level off as a result of the music industry's continued enforcement and education programs. Additionally, the success of legit online music stores such as Apple's iTunes Music Store (which has sold over one billion tracks), has greatly assisted the rise of digital music, according to industry executives.

To date, the RIAA has sued over 18,000 filesharers, with 4,500 of them settling for fines of around $4,000 per case. While album sales are down 3% this year, Bainwol says digital sales, which are up 77%, make up for the shortfall.

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    hot_ice (Senior Member) 15 June 2006 8:03 Send private message to this user   
    Good for them, they are a satisfied delusional bunch.
    flyingv (Member) 15 June 2006 8:26 Send private message to this user   
    delusional bunch, YES!!! Satisfied, doubtfull...
    esrever (Member) 15 June 2006 10:09 Send private message to this user   
    They're just people trying to earn their paychecks...unfortunately everybody also hates them.
    hot_ice (Senior Member) 15 June 2006 11:49 Send private message to this user   
    There are better ways to earn your paycheck while maintaining a modicum of integrity.
    max777 (Junior Member) 15 June 2006 23:23 Send private message to this user   
    I guess when you belong to the RIAA and your ip address is banned/blacklisted, you might get the impression less people are sharing files! lol!!
    bluedogs (Junior Member) 16 June 2006 2:14 Send private message to this user   
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa the joke of the Im say.
    These guys are kidding arnt they? (retorical question)
    But I suppose a lie will alsways top the truth

    You idiots. I can not believe people would actually believe this rot
    7Phoenix (Newbie) 16 June 2006 3:38 Send private message to this user   
    Now record companies are pushing for an increase in the price of music downloads. iTunes charges almost a $1 (55p) for one song, and now they want a raise??? In europe and japan its 79p which obviously higher and still they want more? now that rises the question... why so much music swaping?....
    Answer:
    BECAUSE THEY'RE SUCKING US DRY!!!!!!
    Almost (note the ALMOST) everybody in the music industry are a bunch of bloody greedy bastards!
    kevinv (Newbie) 16 June 2006 4:00 Send private message to this user   
    I just think that they want to think that they have accomplished soimething. In fact they say that it has leveled, but in a week or so, they will come back and say it is on the rise, and we need higher fines, higher cost on cds and higher cast for pay downloads.
    Mez (Senior Member) 16 June 2006 4:16 Send private message to this user   
    Good for them I think! Does that mean they will step up or slow down their hunt for pirates. I suspect they do not really care they just want to save face.

    1 USD per tune is the real piracy.
    turkeyssr (Newbie) 16 June 2006 5:51 Send private message to this user   
    4500 * $4000 = $18 million to sue people. Most of it probably goes to the lawyers, but still that's a lot of money for simply suing people. The RIAA will never be able to do anything to redeem themselves in my eyes, but hey, that's just me.
    rbrock (Senior Member) 16 June 2006 13:52 Send private message to this user   
    you get it from your friends, the libaery, cable tv, online radio, its everywhere IF THERE IS OUTPUT THERE IS INPUT they should just go home with their tails between their legs and The record people should put out music we would want all 9 or 10 songs from the cd insteed of one damn song per cd Then I would buy it !
    drakshug (Junior Member) 16 June 2006 14:21 Send private message to this user   
    I'd agree with the comments that music downloading may be 'flat' due to there being nothing decent to download. I haven't seen an album I'd like for about three months but when I torrent there are exactly the same number of seeders and leechers as a year ago. Their letters may be sacring people in some countries but many of us know that they don't have free reign anywhere. Heck, my service provider has it's own LDC++ site and they are the National telecom so who is going to enforce it?
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 16 June 2006 18:17 Send private message to this user   
    2 words.....


    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
    chaney (Inactive) 17 June 2006 1:32 Send private message to this user   
    I'm happy that they're happy...

    BTW, dumb question... How do they find all these people that are sued?
    drakshug (Junior Member) 17 June 2006 1:37 Send private message to this user   
    They ask your service provider and trawl the torrents as the addresses are on them. They have even been known to hack sites. They also get the IP addresses from any servers that have been seized though many sites doon't keep logs.
    I have a feeling that many 'fake' torrents are actually RIAA and MPAA ways of getting IP addresses.
    borhan9 (AfterDawn Addict) 17 June 2006 5:35 Send private message to this user   
    Quote:
    The CEO of The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) believes that the illegal swapping of copyrighted music online has been "contained," saying the legal digital downloads continues to expand while unorthorized music trading online has seen flat growth.

    "The problem has not been eliminated," says RIAA CEO Mitch Bainwol. "But we believe digital downloads have emerged into a growing, thriving business, and file-trading is flat."
    How silly are these people when they say that it is contained. Its not contained and nor will it ever be. When they come to get the networks the networks move its as simple as that.
    hot_ice (Senior Member) 17 June 2006 12:15 Send private message to this user   
    I believe its important that we find out exactly how they trace your IP.

    Perhaps, but I would have to ask a lawyer, maybe you can sue your isp provider for divulging your personal information to these people...
    Kilos13 (Newbie) 17 June 2006 15:00 Send private message to this user   
    They're trying to scare people with all these lawsuits and false statements, I LOVE IT!!! ahaha every time I read another one of these articles I can't help but laugh .
    flyingv (Member) 18 June 2006 6:21 Send private message to this user   
    hot_ice:
    Good point!!! But god only knows that with the laws here in the USA, under the "Patriot Act", they will surely use this as some type of a loophole. So much for freedom, uh?
    hot_ice (Senior Member) 18 June 2006 11:53 Send private message to this user   
    Unless someone becomes a mole in the RIAA, and elaborates on their tactics, I believe we can only come to speculate on how they discover who's downloading what. However, their should be more posts on how to conceal your IP, "from prying eyes" for your own safety and security.
    ZippyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 18 June 2006 13:49 Send private message to this user   
    hot_ice
    thier hacking thats obvious,they can hack us here from brittian and other off shore palces they also data mine and do other.....not so clean or lealge things but they rarely get cought becuse they pay the goverment off *L*

    In anycase they are use gray aera means to tag and bag....its ironic in someways..but life is full of ..it :P

    I have a brain...I think......

    Windows Vister
    I dub thee vister untill thee can prove thyself.

    I aint the brightest bulb around but I can feel my way in the dark...

    I fuzzy braind mew =0_o=

    FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.
    "Music And Film Industry Association of America.."
    hot_ice (Senior Member) 18 June 2006 17:06 Send private message to this user   
    I've come to the same deduction Zippy, although speculative it may seem, the suspicion behind their tactics warrants us, the common customer, to inquire on their "methods".

    Hmmm, an organization should be spawned, to protect the identity of an individual over the internet, one of course that's not for profit.
    Ballpyhon (Inactive) 18 June 2006 21:14 Send private message to this user   
    Everytime i think about this subject i cant help but wonder why the RIAA and all the Anti-piracy organizations out there only target people downloading music and movies and software. Let me ask this question, How much copyrighted porn on the net is being shared on P2P networks? Why arent the copyright infringers of porn being tracked down and sued? If MS or Apple had a slice of the porn industry, the anti-piracy branch of the porn industry would be the leader of the lynchmob. I cant recall anytime seeing an article about someone seizeing computers containing illegally downloaded porn. The only time porn on the net is even an issue is when it is kiddy porn. What scares me more about this issue is that ANYONE can download porn. it is more readlily available on the net then music, movies or software combined. If you dont believe me, go to a search engine and search for "porn" then see the results. after that type in "music downloads". which do you have to pay for first? MUSIC!! i dont know what the exact numbers are, but i can find well over 100 thousand times as many free pornography pictures then i can free mp3s.
    drakshug (Junior Member) 19 June 2006 0:08 Send private message to this user   
    They are definately hacking and definately using false files to harvest IPs. They are probably using web spiders and bots too.
    Music downloading and film downloading is pretty much a must for me as:
    1. Availability. Can't get half the stuff in the shops here, especially the rare films.
    2. Cost. Anyone fancy paying the equivalent of 60 pounds or 60 dollars for a cd?
    3. Internet. Many sites don't accept payment from Lithuania due to Scams originating from here in the past.
    So, how do I get em. Torrents. If I really like the album I'll save up and buy it if I find it but English language films are hard to get, especially the classics.
    So far, no one has even had a letter here but I expect the time will come.
    Now, Some solutions. Can't they put a small levy on the price of blank CDs and DVDs to help pay for the royalties? Some countries do this I believe. Can't they listen to the artists themselves? I know that in Canada as reported here, the artists are against hounding downloaders.
    Can't they realise that it is here to stay. In the days of cassettes everybody copied records and copied music off the radio onto tape. How many have films on VHS off the TV. With the internet it is just easier and the powers that be have got to adapt positively with the times.
    Here in Lithuania, by law, it is legal to make a back up copy of any film, program or music bought legally, for ones own use - including MS operating systems. If they come to my door, everything is back up.
    hot_ice (Senior Member) 19 June 2006 9:36 Send private message to this user   
    The RIAA are criminals protected under the law. Go figure.
    Retro_rc (Member) 27 June 2006 15:52 Send private message to this user   
    Yeah Pretty Much Contained I See

    G2g My torrent is almost over
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