@gonzax

Topless women, that's just about everywhere, spring break, etc etc.

you know what? i´ve never been to Ibiza! lol

hot ice, when you say everywhere, what exactly do you mean?

Well gonzax,

The following places may elaborate on the usage of the term everywhere: for exemple, your wet dreams, hhehehee, spring break, streakers, flashers, swingers, nudies, forest people, trolls, etc.

Lol alright that'll do!

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wet dreams is that the name of an xxx movie?? or u mean weting your bed with something different than urine.

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Lol ok, ok, enough!

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thank you so much Hot Ice, in my wet dreams there is always someone naked, oh well.. and in my not wet dreams too.
by the ways, what was this post about? oh, i remember now, adverbs and naked women, interesting stuff!

People, I've tried to steer this on topic, but why am I bothering?

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@sammorris

Mate don't stress because this topic 100% is being monitored by a mod so when they feel that its goin no where they will take the appropraite action.

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Of course they will, but mods aren't all seeing eyes, they don't have like a 24 hour monitor that pages them when something's out of line with the forum rules. I just wondered to what extent such discussions are welcome on a public forum. I may be over-reacting, but better safe than sorry surely? I don't want to take a mod's job, that's just being an idiot, but helping them out doesn't seem harmful.

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@sammorris

Well we all help the mods out and theres nothing wrong with that. If you think theres something wrong with something someone has posted just click the report offensive post button.

Its as simple as that.

I understand that they are very busy in due time they will get to it.

If you think its not being dealt with effecintly just pm a mod with the link to the thread and they also can deal with it that way.

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huh?? did i loose something?? i didn't find any of this posts offensive to be honest. just guys getting the definition of wet dreams right. lol

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i was just kidding guys, no offense intended to anyone, i think it is pretty obvious that it was all a joke between hot ice and me.
Ok, i´ll shut up forever!

@gonzax

Mate i got the joke its all good. I was just stating a method of dealing with issues.

At the end of the day its the mods that decide.

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There are tons of links for the Spain outlawing P2P thing... Non of them are from news sources, but this could have been something that was not officially announced and leaked out of legislature. Just cause it is not on TV, does not mean that it is not true.

I say give this some time. This could go either way, or maybe it was a rumor started by the government to see how people will react.

I was reading the posts, and I am not sure what the fuss is all about; tangents do happen.

However, the topic regardless, is still being discussed, in regards to Spain, I think concrete evidence is needed rather than speculation.

How can they just outlaw perfectly useful technology?

I understand P2P networks are mainly used for illegal filesharing, but still...
It´s a bit like outlawing the internet because it allows us to (illegally) share IP or facilitate terrorism (okay, maybe not quite, but you get my point).

you know guys.
i don't get it. if you download a movie from a p2p programme
is that illegal? what about different types of file like programmes and games. is that illegal??

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Mate if you dont pay for it then its against the law. Unless the software is open source or freeware.

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It is strictly illegal to download music and videos via P2P, but the technology itself IS legal, which is why torrent hosting sites and p2p program managers are up in arms, they themselves aren't committing crimes. People who submit the illegal material via those methods are the ones breaking the law, but people like the RIAA can't go after joe public in most cases, they're not worthy targets as there's too many of them and they're insignificant. They're chopping down a healthy tree to get rid of the diseased branches.

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that sucks crap
hope no more countries follow

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Hope, but I'm not sure there's much of it...

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Darknets are rebellious and are sneaky, the web is a big place, speeds get faster, files smaller, and as the bad laws proliferate, they get harder to enforce. There is a silent revolution going on... it's in the air...literally.

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Wow. Spain need to talk to their neighbor France. I hear people want to legalize file sharing over there. Also, Im sure its an hoax but i heard about file-sharing insurance somewhere in Europe.

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You're right about all of those, Proximus!

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I realize his is kind of anticlimactic, but this whole thread derives from false information. The legislative reform in Spain says nothing about p2p use for noncommercial purposes, which continues to be legal; if you're actually interested in the content of the reform, maybe you'd like to read about it:
http://www.elpais.es/articulo/cultura/Congreso/aprueba/nueva/Ley/... http://www.elmundo.es/navegante/2006/06/22/cultura/1150971473.html, http://www.internautas.org/html/2565.html)
As for the Inquisition, maybe I should remind the user that brought it up that torture or death penalty are not practiced nowadays in Spain - much unlike the United States, for instance, where incidentally people are also getting busted for using p2p. Maybe there is a connection between Inquisition values and p2p banning, but Spain is not the right example. I mean, I wonder if it is the Inquisition that allows same-sex marriage or private marijuana consumption in Spain... something that you can see in barely three or four more countries in the whole world (the US not included).
I therefore strongly encourage users here to know what they're talking about before talking about it.