OzMick
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its the RIAAs British branch :P

besides why would the british porno industry be intarested in msuic...*cheapish grin*

@OzMick
Yeah, a couple articles ago, the RIAA was the one that declared AllofMP3.com illegal!
@ZIppyDSM
It's the British Phonography Industry, not the British Pornography!

I saw Pornography the first time I read it too...
All I have to add is...
" Money is the root of all evil. "

Now by looking at my police rap sheet I obviously know nothing of law or worse yet, international law.... But can't AllOfMP3 (based in Russia) just say "suck it" to the UK Based porn clube? Who says they have to go to the UK court?

What are the results of ignoring them? That's like some guy from Brazil suing me when I'm in the states...

Someone please correct me, I don't get it.

Tweeder
you need to go one step futher into coperate law,where a coperation can sue you for exsiting...and sometimes...not....(RIAA has sued dead people that mgith have downlaoded MP3s)

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the british porno industry

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I saw Pornography the first time I read it too

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A couple Freudian slips eh?? lol

OMG, after reading it again, I thought it said porno. This changes things the story alot.

you stupid retards

Recording Industry Association of ***********America*****************

UK isnt america u dumbasses


The ******************British*************** Phonographic Industry (BPI) has been cleared to sue popular Russian music download site AllofMP3.com in London's High Court.

At least SOMEONE else can read... Thank you!

Maybe both of ye should lighten up and try to get why that is funny, rather than call someone else retarded just because ye have a non existant sense of humor.

What an utter waste of time. A UK ruling to affect a Russian based company...LLOOLLOLOLLLLLOL

I haven't heard of something as amusing as this in a long time. In Russia, everything goes usually. If the UK thinks some ruling will affect the country or pressure it, it has something else coming to it.

The last paragraph basically lays out the scenario.

In my opinion, the UK High Court will find allofmp3.com illegal. Russia won't close the site down, though.

I still think we're looking at 3 to 6 months, or possibly up to a year before they're officially out of business.

Calling the BPI the RIAA isn't funny, it's ignorance. What is funny is laughing at the conspiracy theorists and such that just immediately say RIAA = MPAA = IFPI = BPI. They might have the same motivations, but they are all different entities.

I appreciate the humor of the situation discussed in the topic, but as you can probably tell by the whole pornography misinterpretation in this thread itself, a lot of people are uninformed and illiterate around here, and it just drags the site into the gutter.

OzMick

sorry sorry,I am unsure of the foundings but I am sure much like the RIAA it was made to "protect" the regoins music copy right.in any case we need not another one of them.

the greedy keep getting greedier. Are the BPI going to go after the retailers in the USSR (or whatever they call it now) that sell Bootleg dvds on the street corners too?

I would like to know how many physical cds are being sold compared to the number of MP3s (albums in their entirity) that are downloaded today. what i am saying is a simple supply and demand question. if band X sells 10 physical CDs of album X and sells 1000 digital versions of the exact same material, shouldn't the final cost of the said material's price be reduced? being as how it would most likely sell alot faster if and generate more revenue at a lower cost.

Since the final product doesn't have to be manufactured to sell (at least not after the first digital copy) it does not have to be manufactured ever again, only maintained, wouldnt that be the smart way to go about it? lets say www.mp3wholesale.com (a ficticious site) sold mp3s for .50 cents and payed (the greedy bastards whole demand their royalties) the same that itunes and similar site pay them, carrying the EXACT SAME MUSIC and quality, would you pay itunes or the cheaper of the 2?

Let's face it, it is not realistic at all. Its as realistic, as that lawyer that owns the planets, because he found a legal loophole.

BPI, RIAA, blah blah blah... They all report to the same hugely crooked big music labels. Don't fight amongst yourselves over the trivial bits. That's exactly what the powers that be want. Us distracted by bickering over nothing while they pull the real crimes. Like the neocons an libs in the US. They're so busy arguing that the guv and big corps can get away with ANYTHING.

The question in my mind is, if the big music cabal can bring down allofmp3 will they be compelled to turn over their customer records? Will customers of allofmp3 then be persecuted? The boiler plate on the site says their service may not be legal in other countries.

@grey area - I made a similar comment in anther thread about allofmp3s TOS saying that it isnt legal in some countries, which in my opinion is allofmp3s way of saying dont d/l from us if you arent in the USSR (or whatever its called now).

And again i ask, would you download from a site that charges .50 cents or .99 cents if they both payed the exact same royalties to the artists? makes me want to go out and start up a mp3 site to fulfil the needs of the consumers that would, only i dont have the startup to do so.

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damn i use that site aswell. if it does get shut down, looks like i will just have to stop paying for music alltogether and just use torrents and bearshare. TAKE THAT BPI lol

In regards to whether its customers can get into trouble:

Per US copyright law it is LEGAL to import a product into the US that was LEGALLY purchased for personal use outside the US. Until RUSSIA declares the site illegal, which it has continuously refused to do based upon RUSSIAN copyright laws, the purchase of music from the site to be 'imported' into the US is, was and will remain LEGAL.

Now if Russia ever decides to change it's copyright laws and those changes make the site illegal then AT THAT moment (and not before) US copyright laws will no longer LEGALLY allow one to 'import' the music for any use, personal or otherwise.

So this stupid lawsuit brought against this wonderful site via the UK courts will not really affect anything except per chance in the UK. It could be that if found guilty in the UK then those who reside in the UK could be determined to no longer be able to legally get this music (assuming that current UK laws deem it to be legal now).

Oh yeah, and for those who feel that the pricing model of the site proves that it is illegal....

Remember that this is based in RUSSIA and is based upon RUSSIAN PRICES. Many countries sell products at prices that vary from what one is 'accustomed' to paying 'at home'. But this does not make the reduced price evidence of a crime!

These 'Global' Companies wanted to create a global market and a global economy and now that they have done so the internet is facilitaing the customers in higher priced markets to purchase the same goods from a lower priced market... this is NOT illegal to do!

Many people in the UK will attest that stuff from the US merely has the $ sign changed to a pound sign.. thus doubling the price of the item to the UK market. Is it illegal for my cousins to send me the money and have me ship them the same goods from the states at half the price they have to pay for them there??? No it is not! Is it illegal for an American business to sell the same product (say Nike trainers) available in the UK at American prices to someone who lives in the UK? No it is not!

These companies have shipped OUR jobs overseas to save THEM money....

I will GLADLY ship my PURCHASES overseas to save ME money as well!

duckNrun
Mmm dont we import low priced iffy qauilty stuff all the time? whats the diffreance in this?? *L*

LOL... the only real difference in that big business wants you play by different rules than their customers. THEY can save money but WE must keep paying the highest price they can sell for.

duckNrun

Thanks for the info. I may have to go shopping. ;-)

well if you live overseas I'm taking orders for merchandise at US Prices plus shipping and a small markup to cover my time...and I accept PayPal lol


;-)

ZIppyDSM
have you purchased and music from allofmp3.com? their pruducts are far from iffy. They allow you to download the music of your choice in the format of your choice, at the bitrate you prefer. i use mp3s at 192 kB/s, but as far as i know you can get them in MP3, WMA, OGG, MPEG-4 and MPC, all in various bit rates. i dont think i can name one other MP3 service that offers that many formats. the MPAA and all the other like minded whores of the industry dont like this because comparitively is like going to wal-mart and buying a 60" plasma tv for about $150.00. I buy all my music form allofmp3.com, unless they dont have what i want, then i use alternate sources.