Originally posted by scorpNZ:

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@ the blake myster 123
LMAO-That's gotta be a first a 7 y/o that takes notice of politics,kudos for trying tho..lol..

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Ok i was high when i typed it,hope the cops cant trace this back to me.
lol

The United States is going crazy over piracy and Canada is trying to protect big foot from extinction.
Look http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070502/wl_...at_070502173737

kinda off topic but i went to midnight screening of spiderman and there were police there checking all our pockets and purses for cameras.

Canada Rocks !
Microcrap SUX !

Don't blame you Canada, these "US" bis types need shooting...

If I have a old VHS tape that I convert into a .avi so I can stop image deteration of a movie that may disappear, ( I like Old & Bad Sci Fi), Am I a Criminal if I put a copy for download to OTHERS who have the movie on VHS but NOT a computer that can convert it, to help them....No

Hullo MICROCRAP I have been using your products since DOS 2.11, and many UPDATES later using XP SP2, You Suck... My Amiga was/is still better..(Amiga 2000, Wildfire 060, 130 Meg Ram, Lightwave)

I know you got Gateway to Buy Commodore to grab it's Patents, and implemented them in MMX and other UPDATES, thats OK, Aparently. You then forgot that are providing a OPERATING SYSTEM and started adding DRMshit and hopeless applications and spawning others to produce patches (anti virus, Spam, Process Application), to Protect your bodgey Operating system.(which you stole from CPM, and still use DOS from) from Collasping under it's flaws

But Protecting my Rights is what I want from a operating system, NOT OTHERS..... Get you act together Idiots, I am now going to Linux (so I can run my PC as a Amiga Workbench based PC{did this on CD base before Conversion of pc}), guess what ? I am not alone you morons, THATS WHAT UBUNTU, a FREE replacement for your crappy OS, and it even has a Amiga like OS, FAR OUT, wish I seen this years ago, saved many Updates payments to you MicroCrap, Ps.. [url=http://www.ubuntu.com/][/url]

My Right Include, Buying Albums on LP/CD Movies on VHS/DVD, if I pay then I make a backup, So I can let my 4 year old put a disk in a player, or Protect the ten's of Thousands of dollars I spent on Vinyl LP's, Backing Up all Movies and Music I possess, AND help others using less capable equipment to get their collections BACKED UP.

Guess What MicroCrap, you can't stop it, and I am NOT Canadian ! (USPOST RULES)

I like to see you idiots ban the Post Man...

Ha HA Ha

Invent a better Lock, some one will build a Better Key...

no one answered my question posted a day ago about the canadian guy who got arrested for downloading mp3 music. Anyone know about this story and what really happened??

I have never heard of such an arrest and have lived here for more than 50 years. Canada is different, for now. A federal judge ruled that making a copy of a cd, for example, was no different than having a photo copier in a library. This decision is under appeal but the Supreme Court has not, to my knowledge, stated whether or not it will hear the appeal. The federal judgement has to be faulty and it isn't. That would mean Parliament will have to enact a new law. The current government will probably try but it is in a minority position and can't always get what it wants.

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Ha ha ha ha
And at night you can hear us sharpening our skates planning
an invasion .

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LMAO!! That's too frickin' funny! I AM CANADIAN!! (former beer slogan)

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anyone heard about this guy in Canada who got arrested for downloading millions of mp3 music?? it happened i think from 5 years ago but i'm not sure. they put his image on the news. if anyone know more about his story i would like to know..thanx

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Nope. Never heard anything about it. Being Canadian, I'm constantly on the look out for stories like this one, but who knows, it might have gotten by me.

Oh, and one more thing: Piracy has been around forever, and will never go away. And I don't care what anyone says/thinks, but we all know who we have to blame for all these piracy lawsuits: one shitty heavy metal band, which I won't name, but you all know who I'm talking about.

The next person who mentions 9/11 or Iraq will be getting a two week vacation from aD

Originally posted by bigE:

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As an effort to steer this topic back on course somewhat, I'll just toss out what my understanding of Canadian copyright law in regards to the internet is (as I am a Canadian).

Anyways, I believe it is not illegal to download copyrighted materials from the internet, but it is illegal to upload them or to make them available for download. Now that being said, to my knowledge, there has never been anyone fined/jailed/arrested for uploading in Canada. I don't think these laws are enforced very much if at all. I think it's a situation of it being illegal but there is no penalty.

Of course, if you were to show up at the premiere of Spiderman III with your Sony Handycam, you would get kicked out and authorities would be involved. So it's not like piracy runs rampant here, it's just d/l'ing is penalized.

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I do believe that you can download 1 copy for your own use, but you cannot reseed it back out. I have only heard of 1 case were someone was charged a few years back for shareing, but it was in the gigs that he was shareing out. That was also when the lawyers tried to get isps to release there client lists and information. If I remeber right that was squashed by the courts.

Also you can make 1 copy of any disc you own as a personnal backup only. You are not to lend or give copies out to anyone.

Also you say canada does nothing about pirates. Some isps when they get a complaint from a big group, they will send out warnings to the people that download large numbers. They also have watchdogs out there, especially if they see a lot of uploads/download from a certain address. I know a few people that got warings from symantec about download.

And yes, before you ask. I am Canadian.

Is that why, when I go north of the border that I always see eye patches and swords? HeHeHe

i did 1yr in don jail for 5000 bootleg dvd and about 500 xbox and ps2 game pretty lame ! no bail eithr i hav no prior record. o but violent crime ppl were getting bail- makes sense eh?

boy i find this total topic funny
the US has not right to tell Canada any thing, since their never listen to other , hell there never even follow up on treaty with any county, if it not in the USA interesting

fact is in Canada we pay a levy ( just a fine word for tax. if you ask me ) on any blank cd and dvd for payment to music and video maker in case people copy video or music
The current levy on CD-Rs is 21¢ each.
The new levy for non-removable memory permanently embedded in digital audio recorders is $25 for each recorder with memory capacity of more than 10 gigabytes.

http://neil.eton.ca/copylevy.shtml

Canadain copyright levy on blank audio recording media OR the blank cd- r tax
from what i see, big business own the usa govt, i see them protecting their asset, but where do there protect the normal people asset. like maybe given heath care, or cheaper drug ( in canada own drug are half or less then the same in the usa, and i heard the same thing from drug, canada will get cut off of drug as it sell them to cheap


wake up USA, it all about greed and money, noting more, or yes power

any one can say any thing, but is it true
well it not, maybe in the eye of the greed bastard that do not what you to make copy for your personal use, and there govt pocket PAL, of which i see as most of the the usa govt

if we had a givt her in canada with some balls, we should put the usa in it place, just where do american thing a good part of there power, nat gas and oil come from , speaking as a albertaen and canadaian, i would like to see that c ut off when the usa trys to en force it greed way on a other country

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Corporate giants Microsoft and Apple recently asked the US Government

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Should'nt that be "odrdered" and not "asked" the US Government?

Go Canada!

Nice piece of information.
What I would like to know is wich countries are on the High Priority list?

Is there a way to view the entire list?

Thanks

Originally posted by Stonerman:

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Nice piece of information.
What I would like to know is wich countries are on the High Priority list?

Is there a way to view the entire list?

Thanks

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Stonerman I don't know if this will help but go here
http://www.ustr.gov/Document_Library/Rec...tion_Index.html

It's the most recent Updates for the US Trade Representative website which documents any/all trade agreements the US has with foreign countries and the watch lists of countries which are under special consideration. (ie trade sanctions and embargoes)

blake123, I never knew being an American, having good command of English or even having a coherent thought were requirements for this board.

I like that the Canadians are not ‘kiss asses’ in every way. I suspect that must mean their politicians are not total whores like in the US and Brittan. Brittan just extended their copy write laws from 50 to 75 years because the media mafia wanted them to. They would not have been able to sue persons from downloading Elvis tunes. Heck, what would happen to the world if we let that happen?

BigE it is illegal to download copyrighted material from the internet. It is even illegal to copy copyrighted material in the library, record the radio or TV shows etc. However, those acts really do not cause much harm in a legal sense and except for the library copying, nearly impossible to detect. The same hold true for the internet. There is almost no way to detect someone copying something on the internet. The precedent has already been set not to prosecute these harmless acts. It is possible to identify users uploading to the internet or making copyrighted material available to internet users. That becomes distribution and that has always been prosecuted. In that context, the media mafia stands on solid ground.

Hahahaha. Atlest Canada is now on the map for something besides Hockey and saing "Eh". Stay frosty microsoft, were out to rob you blind.

Well I think copyright should be protected everywhere.
But should the US stick their nose in other countries business?
NO we can't even fix this one! Don't get me wrong I love my country but it's foreign policies hmmmmm need some work.

I buy all my software from germany-canada-england-us........
I do like being able to use it first, if it does what it says I'll buy it.

And if Microsoft doesn't want to be robbed - stop robbing people!
I call microsoft tell them I have 5 system in my house. Do you guys give a price break on windows or office?
Reply: yes we do, I say great!, they $5 per system, I say WTF FIVE DOLLARS! So to stay legal I need to spend $4,500 on office & windows vista. Now that's should be against the law!

I bought software from germany ($199), ask them about the 5 systems.
They charged me $25 for each additional system, I paid in a heart beat. And they don't even have any stupid activation. I'm willing to pay for work that people have done. But not willing to be robbed.

Last the oil thing? The top 3 oil producers:
1-Russia
2-Saudi Arabia
3-United States
And not always in that order, The US lies about the amount of
oil it has so it can screw all the countries it sells to.
US does not count off-shore oil as from the US. So add
off-shore drilling now how much oil do we have? So I don't
think the US is real worried about Canadian oil.
[url=http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

Bottom line I agree that the US govt. needs to police the US and no where else.

Top Western Hemisphere Oil Producers 2006
[url=http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/Canada/Oil.html][/url]

beastusa
a corrected to you comment on oil and nat gas

just a few mos ago your vice pres was up in alberta, ask if we could step up production of oil in own oil sand, and you pres also main a comment after how luckly the usa is to have canada as a ssupply of oil

now to the fact beastusa


Canada is the single largest foreign supplier of energy to the United States--providing 17% of U.S. oil imports and 18% of U.S. natural gas demand. Recognition of the commercial viability of Canada’s oil sands has raised Canada’s proven petroleum reserves to 175 billion barrels, making it the world’s second-largest holder of reserves after Saudi Arabia. The electricity grids of the United States and Canada are closely linked and meet jointly developed reliability standards. Quebec is a major source of electricity for New England.

I didn't say we weren't using canada?
The US uses everyone.

The statement I was making is we don't need to.

US policy = use up everyone's resource's then use ours.

Doesn't it look just a little odd that we sell our oil to everyone else, rather then use it?
And buy from canada, the middle east & russia?

Cheaper to buy from everyone else, then use our own.
The us sells us gas from $5 to $7 per gallon.
The us buys gas from everyone else for under $2.

What people think the us is doing and what they are really up to are light years apart.

That was off topic and just side note.

It is not like the oil thing is a consperacy. The oil is sold on the spot market. A very large part of US oil consumption is for electricity. It is cheaper to burn high sulpher oil and scrub out the stack fumes. The US produces low sulphur oil.

Well look at some a the junk movies that are coming out. No wonder not one wants to buy them or go and see them. I have not bought a movie in a long time but then again I use netflix. For the price I pay for that I cannot even go to a movie.

You are so right jziman, they are putting out lots of junk. BB and Netfix buy enough of even the worst junk to keep them in business. With BB I am getting movies for less than 1 USD for the family vs 10 per head! I really don't mind spending a buck to see junk but I do mind spending 50 so my family can watch a junk movie.

jziman & mez

No kidding

I love my netflix, and now with that watch now!