wow....can't wait to see what happens when the next hex line is exposed =p

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The number is going to be pointless without the software u run it through. They had to have realised that it was going to be broken sooner or later. Don't cry over spilt milk :)

I honestly think that these guys may actually believe the hype and lies that they tell the studios about how THEIR product is unbreakable. I mean how many of these suits are actually computer savvy, let alone even a mild hack, so as to realize that what they are saying is complete rubbish.

To them it may seem that their BEST bet would be to have EACH disc encrypted with it's own key so that without the RIGHT key for the RIGHT disc you get nothing. Sure it would still be worked around but the logistics may slow the process down. If they wanted to kick it up a notch they could have some verification model at the point of purchase so that IF that discs code get spread around, useless perhaps, but then that person can be charged with the appropriate charges...

In reality their best bet would be to trust their customers and allow them to access the content that they have purchased on whichever device they choose and to control the private viewing experience as the consumer sees fit.... as well as maybe dropping the price down to a more reasonable rate... perhaps by getting rid of the overhead of bogus DRM schemes and the lawyers to attack those who exert their fair use rights. That should knock off a good 50% of the wholesale cost LOL

hey duckNrun about your last paragraph.........
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ahhahahahhahahhahahahhahahhawoowowoowowoowowowowoahahhahahahhah...
ok ok ok ok sorry about that I needed a good laugh.

Back to reality now I could talk a good enough game to these execs. I'd promise the moon and stars and tell'em pirates are the cause when i couldn't deliver.....oops wait that's already been done hasn't it?!

ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahha......aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

;-)

they have lost game over.

least until they build players with RFID tech and force the media to to not work on anyhtign else they already have this tech ready to prevent shoplifting the dye or plastic of the DVD clears after the chip is scanned at the registry.

Originally posted by duckNrun:

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I honestly think that these guys may actually believe the hype and lies that they tell the studios about how THEIR product is unbreakable. I mean how many of these suits are actually computer savvy, let alone even a mild hack, so as to realize that what they are saying is complete rubbish.

To them it may seem that their BEST bet would be to have EACH disc encrypted with it's own key so that without the RIGHT key for the RIGHT disc you get nothing. Sure it would still be worked around but the logistics may slow the process down. If they wanted to kick it up a notch they could have some verification model at the point of purchase so that IF that discs code get spread around, useless perhaps, but then that person can be charged with the appropriate charges...

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The problem with that cookie is that the cracker program will have a randomizer...that will keep picking numbers until the disk is cracked. More time consuming, then publish that disk's number on a dark net or release group...whoops!

Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:

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they have lost game over.

least until they build players with RFID tech and force the media to to not work on anyhtign else they already have this tech ready to prevent shoplifting the dye or plastic of the DVD clears after the chip is scanned at the registry.

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The problem with that is a computer's DVD recorder/player has to read the disk in order to play the media. A hacker/cracker can bamboozle the read function somehow.

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Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:

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they have lost game over.

least until they build players with RFID tech and force the media to to not work on anyhtign else they already have this tech ready to prevent shoplifting the dye or plastic of the DVD clears after the chip is scanned at the registry.

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The problem with that is a computer's DVD recorder/player has to read the disk in order to play the media. A hacker/cracker can bamboozle the read function somehow.

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their thought process is if they cripple both the player and media that it will "sale" more.

whatever they make will always be cracked.

I'd just love to be in there when the pitch is made for this cr@p.

I mean, not once has any of this protection BS ever remained uncracked or unavoided.

.....and they don't get it for free, so, is it just a gravy train too many are on to give up?
Or is it like the banks and the fraud they just deny & ignore and pretend only happens to somebody else (whilst blaming the victims)?

The fundamental flaw here is that some folks just can't help themselves it seems, they just love to clutch their 'view' that the uncontrollable can be controlled.
I guess admitting the truth (that once digital info is out there it is beyond those out-dated notions of control) is just a step too far.

Hence this on-going totally pointless but nevertheless vastly expensive farce.

You'd have thought the shareholders would be starting to wake up by now tho at the waste.

hughjars
when will they learn any cheap simple protection will keep common man from coping the disc while non common man will wait till its cracked.....

@ craftyzan:

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The problem with that cookie is that the cracker program will have a randomizer...that will keep picking numbers until the disk is cracked. More time consuming, then publish that disk's number on a dark net or release group...whoops!

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hey! Who you calling cookie? pmsl

And actually I meant EACH individual disc for sale. But your point is still valid, just like the cracker programs for s/w that currently requires you to type in an individulaized PID# something would eventually surface that could figure out the generalized algorithm of the key encoder.

The fact is that there are no perfect methods for protecting anything. And that goes for whether it's software, media, or even airport security. If someone wants to crack the code or find the weak spot in a security system, given enough time and resources they will.

As i have stated many times before, there is not a protection that cannot be circumvented in some form or another. DVDs were cracked, Computer software cracked, Xbox Xbox360 PS2 Playstation Nintendo and alot of others cracked, HD DVDs and Blueray cracked, the list goes on. I am sure there is a lot more that i have forgotten to mention, but the fact remains that these companies and antipiracy organizations will never win. they will continue to spend millions and billions of dollars to "prevent" piracy. it just requires mod chips and such to do it now. there is more of us then there is of them. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!

I think that you will find that the general public at large shies away from cracking the case on their electronics and going through the process required to install mod chips. While they may feel comfortable ripping an iso off a rental or downloading a file instead of paying for it when it comes to maybe breaking their machine they tend to be a little more willing to buy the original.

Of course there are plenty of people who are comfortable with this procedure, and others less knowledgable who are willing to take the risk , as well as many more who have done so who can be the shepherd to those little lambs who otherwise would feel too insecure doing it themselves.

But the end result is as has been stated by everyone here:

Build a better mousetrap and a better mouse will soon appear.

why doesn't sum1 decompile a app like DVD Shrink and add/change the key in the app that it uses to decrypt movies, to a a HD DVD/ blu ray key and modify the code so it also has the option to decrypt HD DVD/blu ray movies...

only an idea...

could work though.......................................................

I think that Shrink is now Nero Recode and so somebody might find that they get into a bit of trouble from not only the MPAA but also Nero....

???

Originally posted by duckNrun:

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Build a better mousetrap and a better mouse will soon appear.

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Exactly. I could not have said it better.

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No code is unbreakable, remember the enigma code in WW2.
They should just give up, in the end they are just wasting more money on making breakable copy protection systems.

I hope who ever created or made aacs dies a painfull death

They could just use Imitation disc after about one play they would crap out

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