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Sony unveiled PlayStation 3 at E3

Written by Jari Ketola @ 17 May 2005 4:41 User comments (133)

Sony unveiled PlayStation 3 at E3 Japanese electronics giant Sony unveiled their next generation superconsole at the E3 expo in Los Angeles. In addition to disclosing the technical specifications of the console, Sony displayed some impressive technology demos to the audience.
PS3 will be powered by a PowerPC based 3.2GHz Cell processor providing 218 gigaflops of floating point processing power. The graphics will be run by a GPU developed by nVidia -- the RSX (short for Reality Synthesizer) has 1.8 teraflops of floating point processing power. That puts the total performance to over 2 TFLOPS -- double that of the Xbox 360 console (officially) unveiled last week.

The full specs for the CPU and GPU are:

CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines



The console is capable of providing HDTV video at 1080p, which is called by many "True High-Definition video". 1080p provides progressive 1920x1080 pixel resolution. Xbox 360 has HDTV support up to 1080i resolution, which is interlaced 1920x1080. As if that wasn't enough PS3 provides a dual HD output. That is you can hook two HDTV capable devices to the console's HDMI connectors.

Dolby Digital, DTS, LPCM etc. multi-channel audio is, of course, also supported.

AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1


PS3 has 256MB of XDR main RAM running at 3.2GHz. In addition it has 256MB of GDDR3 video ram running at 700MHz.

Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz
256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz

System Bandwidth
Main RAM: 25.6GB/s
VRAM: 22.4GB/s
RSX: 20GB/s (write) 15GB/s (read)
SB: 2.5GB/s (write) 2.5GB/s (read)



In addition to supporting DVD±R/W and CD-R/RW formats, PS3 will also support Blu-ray media.

Disc media (read only)
CD: PlayStation(R) CD-ROM
CD: PlayStation(R)2 CD-ROM
CD-DA: CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW
SACD: SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD
DualDisc: DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation(R)2 DVD-ROM
DVD: PLAYSTATION(R)3 DVD-ROM
DVD-Video: DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD R, DVD RW
Blu-ray Disc: PLAYSTATION(R)3 BD-ROM
BD-Video: BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE

The connectivity of the console is very impressive indeed. In addition to the versatile audio/video connectors, the console will have not one but three gigabit ethernet connectors (1000BASE-T) -- one for input and two for output. That allows PS3 users to hook up multiple units without the use of external hubs or switches. The console will also have 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi capability and Bluetooth 2.0 EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) built-in.

Communication
Ethernet: (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 output x 2)
Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)



Users will be able to connect up to seven wireless controllers simultaneously over Bluetooth. Wired USB2.0 controllers can also be used. In addition the PlayStation Portable (PSP) can be used to control PS3 over Wi-Fi. Two-way communications between PSP and PS3 will provide huge opportunities for game developers to realize even their wildest visions. The console can also be controlled via network over the TCP/IP protocol.

Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)



PlayStation 3 will be fully backwards compatible with both PlayStation and PlayStation 2 consoles. Apparently Xbox 360 will also be backwards compatible with the existing Xbox games, which probably is a small relief to Xbox owners.

In technology demonstrations Sony showed some impressive footage. The rubber duck demo, which was shown at PlayStation 2 unveiling, had received a facelift. The bathtub scene with rubber duckling was first improved by popping in a couple of pirate ships with impressive looking sails getting shot through with cannonballs. Then the bathtub was filled with a thousand more ducks bobbing around in the water.

Also demonstrated was the upgraded version of EyeToy, which can now be controlled via voice commands as well. In one of the demos a man held two glasses in his hands over the tub (using EyeToy) from the rubber duck scene, dipped the glasses in the water, filled them up and then poured them empty. The demo sent ripples of excitement through the audience, Joystiq reports.

Square Enix showed the Final Fantasy VII opening sequence -- rendered in real-time. FF7 will not be ported to PS3, though. A new Final Fantasy game will, however, find its way to the new platform.




PlayStation 3 will hit the stores in Spring 2006.

Sources:
Sony press-release
Joystiq
IGN
The Register
BBC

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133 user comments

117.5.2005 3:00
Rosco404
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Wow thats some spec!!

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PlayStation 3 will hit the stores in Spring 2005
That early? Thats like.... in the next couple of months?

217.5.2005 3:02

Quote:
That early? Thats like.... in the next couple of months?
Oops. Sorry! That's a typo. Should have been Spring 2006. Fixed now. =)

317.5.2005 3:08
Rosco404
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LOL... thought it would have been 2006, you got me exited there for a minute Ketola : ) Cant wait for this release...

417.5.2005 4:47

although im glad they changed the look of the ps controller, that one kills me! other then that i like it better then the xbox

517.5.2005 4:47

I think it looks like a bread bin on its side. The controller isnt nice at all. The whole console looks like something out of Stargate. P.S But the specs make up for this.

617.5.2005 4:52
Rosco404
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The differances with xbox and PS2 specs and the specs of the new generation xbox360 and PS3, there are huge differance's!... so papa_face i think they did come through a stargate LOL : )

717.5.2005 6:09

Does anyone know what the cost in the us will be for the (ps3) and (xbox360)??? Thanks

817.5.2005 6:09

Nope do not like the look of that one bit, specs seem great even thou they did say a bit back it would run at 4+ghz

917.5.2005 6:20

So PS3 will utilize BluRay, but xbox 360 won't? It'll only use same ol' DVD-format? Isn't that a HUGE advantage for PS3 over xbox 360? B/c if you think about it, not only are you getting a Next Gen game console, but you're also getting a Next Gen home movie player. That's sort of like two in one, no? Buy an xbox 360, and you'll still have to buy a BluRay/HD-DVD stand alone player. I dunno... I think xbox's strategy (rushing production to hit the market earlier but suffering from lower specs) will backfire this time around. I'm an xbox owner who has done nothing but bash PS2 for years. I think I might have to change my tune...

1017.5.2005 6:29

sweeeeeeeeeet! Just watched almost 2h video about ps3 from gamespot.. I am droooling... I am more then amazed! The video itself was much better then xbox360 mtv preview, which was too commercial and crap in general. Well all i wish for now is to travel in time to spring 2006 :)))

1117.5.2005 6:32

I was really hoping that they were going to keep the controller design the same just add some extra features like the wireless capability. However, I am going to hold any bashing or paise until I actually try one. It is almost like Playstation has taken everything that was great about PSX, PS2, GC and Xbox(Except the HDD. I didn't see anything about a HDD) and put it all into one game unit. This is going to be really exciting to see. I am happy to see that they still have backwards compatibility, although there was really no question in my mind that they were going to have it. I am still very confused as to why Xbox360 doesn't. Correct me if I am wrong but it doesn't right? Why would Microsoft do that knowing that was one of the major selling points for Playstation and will continue to one if not the biggest one?

1217.5.2005 6:36

holy s@#t!!! this f@#$$ machine looks awesome!!! How much is it gonna cost though? Wow the specs are incredible... the xbox 2 is dead man...

1317.5.2005 6:37

well we all know now why sony is the king of gaming PS3 is going to kick some but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1417.5.2005 6:45

I have been an xbox owner for quite sometime and told myself that I would never give in to the Playstation scene. I just changed my mind...

1517.5.2005 6:50

all i have to say is HA HA to the X-BOX because the only thing it had on playstation was that it was a better consol and it had one good game 2 if you really wanna be gay about it. i always liked playststion and when i get in disscussions with other people about x-box and Playstation in the back of my mind X-box has better graphics but now there is not a single doubt that playstation is gonna be first yet again even though X-box will get a bit of a head start i think any one who knows anything about computers would wait P.S the controller does look gay i can't see the top it dosn't even look loike it has R2 and L2 buttons i hope you can use the old controllers

1617.5.2005 6:55

Oh, man, you shouldn't have shown those images! Those are sweet! Now I have to get one. Spring 2006, I'd still consider that early. I expected it to be released in the fall. This does raise a few questions though.... Nintendo said Revolution is supposed to be released around the same time. Does that mean we can expect it to be released in the spring? Blu-Ray, I thought, wasn't supposed to be out movie-wise until the fall of 2006 too, wasn't it? Does this effect the release of Blu-Ray to the market as well? I can see at least sony putting out it's own movies on dvd at least, just like umd. Now, I'm surprised they even changed the controller, aside from the wireless gig. They've been using the same one on the last two systems, and it's reigned as seemingly the best modern controller configuration ever since. Do they really think this new one can supercede it's older brother? We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.

1717.5.2005 6:58

just remeber there is one CONSOL that is being a little to quiet dose anyone know about the new gamecube reveolution the specs anything

1817.5.2005 7:09

nintendo are being very quiet on the subject back to the ps3 and ive modded mine already, what do you guys think?! http://server5.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=ps3grill.JPG

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1917.5.2005 7:11

Does anyone know what the cost in the U.S. will be for the (ps3) and (xbox360)??? Thanks

2017.5.2005 7:22
Rosco404
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Heheee thats a funny one jpp : ) As for the price no one knows yet... i would guss about the $300-400 mark.

2117.5.2005 7:32

lol i thought so!! ive gone with the "grill" top much more stylish regarding the xbox, this is from a microsoft man, and he is aiming for $299...i think not with that spec! http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/608/608394p1.html if it is $299 i will be very surprised and very happy

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2217.5.2005 7:44

Does anybody know if it will be out everywhere at the same time? Or will it be like the same crap with psp, first asia, then states, then after like 4 months in europe.

2317.5.2005 7:46

And another thing, will it be like ps2 so games would be regional or will it be like psp so u can play games from anywhere in the wourld and play them on any ps3?

2417.5.2005 8:08

Of course the X360 will be $299 it doesnt utilize any new technology. So lame. Good bye Xbox...the console I'll never own.

2517.5.2005 8:13

why is it lame technology? i own both an xbox and a ps2, and with out doubt the xbox is a better piece of kit yeah the ps2 has the games at the moment but it wont do for ever. we had a games developer come from core design in the uk, and he only mentioned new ideas for the xbox 360, not one word was said on the ps3

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2617.5.2005 8:18

@dominator yeah i think they will do the same thing again, im from the UK and we have to wait ages for everything or pay massive prices for stuff that have been imported in to UK shops PSP imported in a local shop is £280 quid, i think ill wait...

2717.5.2005 8:47

xbox beware! the controllers ARE wireless right? they look ugly as SHIT, but the more i think about it, the more i realise that they wouldnt make those controllers if they didnt feel right in the hands. we will have to wait til they come out to decide.

2817.5.2005 8:52
Bubba1982
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Yeah the PS3 has impressive specs. I'll give it that. And I'll probably end up with both PS3 and Xbox 360, but the only thing I like about the 360 over the PS3 is that the PS3 has no hard drive. Well... that and the xbox 360 will have halo 3. hehehe. PS3 will never have that :)

2917.5.2005 8:55

as far as i know they are wireless only trouble with wireless is the batteries, maybe they can make it plug in the wall to charge then take it out to use it! is it only me that thinks the xbox spec is good? ive seen the ps3 spec and its very good, but whats wrong with the xbox! The new xbox however has a 500MHz graphics card, a three core processor performing three processes at once each at 3.2Ghz. Wirless A/B/G card. Wireless controllers (up to 4). Removable/upgradable 20GB hard drive. CD ripper. Connects to computer to stream any video or pictures music etc. to your tv and if you hook it up you surround sound system. That doesnt sound bad to me...its the first time ever that a games console may be able to compete with a pc, surely that is a good thing and with the ps3 being able to do the same then surely this will be a very good time for console gaming :)

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3017.5.2005 9:30
Bubba1982
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another good thing about the xbox 360 is that yeah the controllers are wireless, but... when the battery gets low a light is suposed to come on on the controller and you can connect it back up to the xbox via cable so you can charge it and still play at the same time.

3117.5.2005 9:34

that would be a good idea! coz ive got wireless controllers for the ps2 and xbox and its a bit crap having to keep either charging the batteries or putting in new ones

3217.5.2005 9:57
Bubba1982
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not only is it a good idea. but microsoft have already confirmed that is whats going to happen

3317.5.2005 10:21

its well documented at other sites that the PS3 will ship with a 2.5" removable HD. jsut no spec on the size of it yet, so its not being bigged up. PS3 eats XBOX 360 alive. its a true next gen leap, not a 1.5 leap like the 360.

3417.5.2005 10:27
Bubba1982
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hehe sure. eats it alive. right. We'll see, we'll see. Anyways, like i said, I has got good specs and I'll probably end up with both. Man I love it when sony supporters get all bent out of shape about the xbox. They just can't hack it when currently, there console is technically inferior. hehe

3517.5.2005 10:38
odb992001
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come on i love my ps2 and gamecube. but 35 times the powerful, the ps3 should look like real humans on the tv if its that powerful, remember the ps2 was push out 100 millions poly's and look like toy stories. sony don't make me laught. it's to hyp up the new systems, ps3 and xbox 360 is going to be the as nintendo 3 times the power. but i will get nintendo and ps3 system.

3617.5.2005 11:10
scobble
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lol, oh my god, no offence to u playstation nuts but what is going on with that pad, dear god i hope they change that, hey do u think if i throw it, it will come back to me. As for graphic, lmao. they look pretty shabby. Give me a high spec PC game any day of the week.

3717.5.2005 11:24

Ok Can i get sumet right here, xbox 360 gonna use wifi to connect controllers and ps3 gonna use bluetooth. and from what i know xbox got 3 3.2ghz processorz and appartly this cell thing has 7 3.2ghz processors or equivlant power? and in my opion xbox 360 controllers lookz nice and comfortable while ps3z just lookz weired not sure if itz ergonomic though. and how big is in comparison to the ps2? from the specs both consoles have 512mn ram, and both have 500mhz graphics cards but xbox 360 from ati and ps3 from nvidia. were have i gone wrong and can someone add to this?

3817.5.2005 11:33

Is it me or is that a picture of cloud from Final fantasy 7? I hope so, thats my fav game of all time. Also to all these "ps2 is better" and "xbox360 is better" people, can you please not take this so serious and personal ITS A MACHINE FFS. Its a great thing we have 2, if we had 1 there would be no competition and things could end up crap.

3917.5.2005 11:35

FF XII for the PS3 is gonna be offline. Good. That just sold it for me. As long as the Playstation has the games I want then I'll buy it. If the Xbox had exclusive rights to games I wanted to play then i'd buy that instead. I don't really care which machine it is, as long as it has the games.

4017.5.2005 12:04

it does say this on the afterdawn page about the ps3 though "Square Enix showed the Final Fantasy VII opening sequence -- rendered in real-time. FF7 WILL NOT be ported to PS3, though. A new Final Fantasy game will, however, find its way to the new platform." I would love to see Final Fantasy 7 on the ps3 becuase that game rocked! oops my bad malcdog i saw x11 and thought it was seven im just bein retarded its late at nite...sorry!

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4117.5.2005 12:28

OK THE FINAL FANTASY pics are ok but then foget the game cause i can stare at the danm system for an hour and does any 1 know if www.ps2fliptop.com are trustable sites to order ps2 fliptops??

4217.5.2005 13:06

what box 360?

4317.5.2005 13:49

AWESOME graphics and specs. Controller could use some work, but at least they've finally gone beyond two controllers to seven (wow!). Definitely on my shopping list for '06.

4417.5.2005 13:50

1080P shit man thatz gonna be heavy but people come on ansa ma earlier question

4517.5.2005 14:14
CKY_2084
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Didnt you know that XBOX 360 is going to have Final Fantasy. They own rights to it now. So Xbox will have Final Fantasy and Halo 3. Those are the only games I will need. I never did like Sony and will never buy one. Xbox is the greatest thing ever to the gaming community.

4617.5.2005 14:15

why is everyone flaming me personally am gonna by xbox 360 dis year and ps3 next year sorted

4717.5.2005 14:23

yes i did know Xbox 360 was getting the new final fantasy, is it version 12? coz if so ps3 is getting it too...

4817.5.2005 15:15

XBOX 360 has ONLY final fantasy 11. PS3 has final fanasty 12, and ps2 already has ff11.lol. microsofts big guns and fizzling away. PS3=true next gen. XBOX 360= Bill Gates fails again. :D i say that, but i'll probably end up with both. lol. Dan x

4917.5.2005 15:20

Come on people be realsitc their both very close in terms of spec, both of them have good games, and i personally prefer xbox 360 controller

5017.5.2005 15:21

I'm gonna say that I'm a Playstation fan, but I'm neutral for now. The truth will reveal itself in the following year.

5117.5.2005 15:24

Xbox will have Final Fantasy XI. i didn't like that one anyway. I like to play my Final Fantasy the same way today as i did when part 1-10 came out, alone. LOL.

5217.5.2005 15:26

If you throw that controller it comes back to you.

5317.5.2005 15:28
Ludikhris
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http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/242708.asp Seems to me that final fantasy XII is a PS2 game.... Where are any of you getting information? They have said they are soon going to make a final fantasy for PS3, so whatever they are cooking it doesnt sound like FF12 cause that is already near finished. Ludikhris oh yeah and it seems i read somewhere that they are making a set of FF7 stuff as well. If memory serves me correctly it was 1) A prequel on PSP 2) A sequel on DVD (Final Fantasy: Advent Children) was like a 55min movie i think and 3) something else on PS3. But I lost my source on that.

5417.5.2005 15:34
Ludikhris
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http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Sep/bga20040907026808.htm Basically this is what I found on the net over and over and over. There IS no FFXI coming to XBOX nor is there any planned Square Enix material set for XBOX 360 in the next round of consoles. Sony customers can rest at ease SE is going nowhere, however they may release some games in the future for XBOX360. MS customers can cross their fingers for games in the future but at this time there is nothing planned from what I read. Ludikhris

5517.5.2005 15:45

as far as ive seen ff7 is just a video clip and it does say there not goin to be re releasing it...but i hope it does come out on ps3 because it was a mint game FF11 is coming out on xbox 360 http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/614/614680p1.html but i cant c it anywhere for FF12, ive read that much junk over the last few days im confusing myself

5617.5.2005 15:51

yeah....but its only just been anounced. Anyway, I've always liked xbox, mainly because they mostly have my kinda games(with the exeption of God of War). The PS3 controllers look really bad...and it might be to expensive. I'm probably gonna go with the 360. A couple good reasons, keeping it simple: Halo 3, Gears of War, and there paddles seem more...playable, and XBOX LIVE SILVER(sorry I can't pass that up) Those are the main reasons. But I'll have to wait before I'm sure, after all, I thought long about xbox of PS2(I like compatition so I wasn't getting both).

5717.5.2005 15:53

ABOUT THE BETTER GAMES THING, NOT FF11.

5817.5.2005 16:04

Spooky2k:

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its well documented at other sites that the PS3 will ship with a 2.5" removable HD. jsut no spec on the size of it yet, so its not being bigged up.
No. Not all versions of the PS3 will ship with a HDD. The PS3 press release list "Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1" and mentions "Storage media (HDD, "Memory Stick", SD memory card, and CompactFlash) are sold separately." which leads to the conclusion that HDD is an option. Eurogamer has something on it at: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59085
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5917.5.2005 16:53
swggamer
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PIECE OF $H!T 3. LOL this is the dumbest system i ever saw. that controller is retarded and 35 times the power of the ps2? yea thats about equals the xbox(not 360). Buy a revolution its better and FREE GAMES!!

6017.5.2005 17:07

wooo yeah lets all buy a revolution because this newbie said so!!!! anyway, what do the teraflops prove? this super-geek at my school said that it was good, but has nothing to do with gaming.

6117.5.2005 18:37

HAHAHA its so funny, all those microsoft idoits supporting xbox are crapping their pants right now, and the only argument they can come up with is how the contorller looks,, hahahaha thats funny .. go sell out you bill gate's. HAHAHAAHAHA this is awesome,, and not only that, but the halo series sucks, its the worst run and gun i have ever played,, run n guns are for lil adolescent 8 year ikd who dont understand the tatic of warfare..

6217.5.2005 19:47

fag. if you understand the tactic of warfare, and seem to be so much into it, join the fucking Army. Myself, Im not really a fanboy of any system. They both look good, and im getting each one.

6317.5.2005 21:44

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but the halo series sucks, its the worst run and gun i have ever played,, run n guns are for lil adolescent 8 year ikd who dont understand the tatic of warfare..
well said.

6417.5.2005 22:11

This looks so good that I'll have to buy both xbox 360 and ps3. But how much are they going cost? You could propably buy a small house with the price of these.

6517.5.2005 22:22

Seems no one caught the fact that the FF-VII opening was rendered real-time. This is incredible! However, they don't go into details as to the resolution, framerate etc. What will be nice though, is that we may no longer have the poor cut scene transitions most system have today. Doom 3 does the best job from what I have seen so far. With regard to which console is best, well, this really doesn't matter. It is personal choice since, most software today never takes full advantage of the hardware. To my understanding the power of the PS2 has not yet been fully utilized. Though I blame Sony for making it to complex to develop for. Microsoft had the advantage here with the XBox and it being PC based. XBox 360 may be a different story, we will see in time. I personally will be going with the PS3, mainly because of my investment in PS2. I like the fact that I can use my existing games, plus there are tons of PS1/PS2 games which can be had for very little $$. Also I feel the Blu-Ray support will prove to be a great addition down the road. Don't get me wrong, Microsoft has alot going for it. For one, the support as a media extender to Windows Media Center PC's is great. No need for Blu-Ray when I can have a huge database of movies on demand. Though probably not anywhere near the quality. I am curious what Sony has in terms of media broadcast/streaming support. It would be cool to be able to use the PS2 as media extenders to the PS3. Someone (I think from the Revolution thread) stated that we are lucky to have more than one choice in consoles. I fully agree, we need competition in order to get better and less expensive gadgets. So, buy what you want and if you can afford it, buy one of each.

6618.5.2005 0:12
Bubba1982
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Quote:
HAHAHA its so funny, all those microsoft idoits supporting xbox are crapping their pants right now, and the only argument they can come up with is how the contorller looks,, hahahaha thats funny.
Most xbox supporters are not crapping their pants, because we simply don't care about what sony does. And besides... the ps3 controller IS friggin ugly. Infact the entire console is awful looking.

6718.5.2005 0:27

Quote:
And besides... the ps3 controller IS friggin ugly. Infact the entire console is awful looking.
And I suppose the XBox 360 controller is lightyears ahead of their previous one and the console is a masterpiece that deserves a place next to the Mona Lisa... IMO, all three of the next gen consoles look horrible; I'm sold on game and graphics quality though, not the piece of plastic that protects the machine from dust.

6818.5.2005 0:43

I have an xbox and a ps2 and love both of them, personally i prefer ps2 because it has more exclusive games that i like better. I bought the xbox because there were a couple of games that i wanted that were not on the ps2 but i enjoy them both. I don't see why you guys have to argue about this, i mean it's not like sony or microsoft pays you to talk thrash about other systems. I'm going to buy the ps3 because theres going to be a lot of sequels to games that i have and i could play all my old titles on there too. The xbox 360 is awesome and i would love to have it but i can't afford both systems. I don't care about the 9 million teraflops or the 256mb xd ram ultra lightspeed megasuperdksjgvkjhcgbv kjh i just want good games and when the prices go down maybe i'll have both.

6918.5.2005 0:50
lajr1980
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why are folks taking about the PS3 controller knowing damn well you can buy a USB PC controller for the system??

7018.5.2005 0:53
lajr1980
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I can see it know in a couple of years that this system will be hacked

7118.5.2005 2:34

I did notice that the Final Fantasy 7 was a real time rendered scene, and yes it looks good i cant see them re releasing it now, because there busy on other stuff for the ps3. but maybe in the future it will come to the ps3..im hoping so anyway

7218.5.2005 5:48
Bob63
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All this talk about new game system this and new game system that, but all they have to show is just cg movies and crap! They got talk but no in game movies to back it up! The final product is never going to be like this! E3 is a joke! Just wait till the system comes out!

7318.5.2005 7:44

Someone mentioned Halo 2 lacks "the tactics of warfare"??? You do realize this is a VIDEOGAME, don't you? They're all just VIDEOGAMES! There are no "tactics of warfare"!!! You're not holding an actual gun, you're holding a videogame controller, sitting on your man-juice soaked EZ-recliner in your mother's basement! When the hell did we start thinking we were US Marines by mastering the art of 'melee attack'??

7418.5.2005 8:55

Think of how you play Halo.... You hold down the analog,,,, and every once in awhile you pull a tigger... and thats the complete guide to how to play halo..... Now think of other games,,, such has SOCOM, or Call of Duty,, think about howthere is an actually team sense of how you work together.,. Now think of Halo,,,where you go around running,,, and shooting... Now think of the kinda kids that only have that much intellect to play a game like that...... Thank You for your time..

7518.5.2005 9:21

OK you people, apprantly did not see my first POST so here I go again. All you "xbox360 is better, the ps3 controller is rubbish" and all you "ps3 is better, its more powerfull, xbox is dead" just take a minute to breath.......sit back.....wake up, and for the love of god realise you are talking about a MACHINE!!!!!!! stop taking it so personal. I like gaming as much as the next guy, but I dont loose sleep over it, I suggest you go out, drink beer, get a girlfreind, and be thankfull in the fact that there is competition in the console market, if there was no competition there would be no pressure to improve anything. RANT OVER.......LCARBUTT SIGNING OUT :)


You are reading a mindless signature, please stop reading it now it is mindless, one can only presume you are mindless since you are still reading this mindless signature, Oh my god get a life you mindless person, whats the matter with you, dont you have a girlfreind? mindless mindless mindless

7618.5.2005 10:20

What are you talking about,, with out competeion there would still be a drive for better technology,, its the people who thrive for that little bit better in technology which makes technology good.. Competion of course plays apart in this, but it will be the people's choise for the improvement, and besides why are you telling us to go drink a beer, that is very immature, and half of us are only 15 years old,, why would you want to drink a beer, its gross and discusting.. go grow up........................

7718.5.2005 10:56

Quote:
why would you want to drink a beer, its gross and discusting.. go grow up........................
OMG!!!! BLASPHEMY!!! I drink beer for breakfast lunch and dinner... and I'm 29... ROFLMAO! Someday, when you're all grown up, you'll come to appreciate a good homegrown brew. Killian's and Bud, with the occasional MGD mixed in for good measure ;) CHEERS!!

7818.5.2005 11:31

i don't think there are alot of 15 year olds on this site i've been here for a while and it doesn't seem like that to me although some people act like 10 year olds.

7918.5.2005 12:26

maybe this doesn't have anything to do with what's going on in this forum, but these acne and motorolla ads are killing me!! stop them!!!!

8018.5.2005 12:56
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Quote: ------------------------------------------------------ HAHAHA its so funny, all those microsoft idoits supporting xbox are crapping their pants right now, and the only argument they can come up with is how the contorller looks,, hahahaha thats funny. ------------------------------------------------------ K, people are saying what peices of shit playstation systems are,well,there not shit. THe x-box 360 is the rankest system out there. Bill gates better sell his company before he hits rock bottom b/c PS3 is going to take all of the x-box 360 sales!! So there u x-box lovers.

8118.5.2005 13:32

Hold up, I think you guys are talkin this to the extremes...allot. "Rankest system out there"...sorry, but are you on crack? Or cough syrup? Anyway, people who don't like PS3 are takin it to far to, they are both good systems, but so far I like xbox 360 better, but come on, loosen up. Be factual, back your statements. P.S. CANT WAIT FOR GEARS OF WAR

8218.5.2005 13:37
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Everyone who has an xbox is going to say the xbox is alot better than the playstation and the other way around. I have a ps2 and gamecube no xbox. But i want to hear from someone who has both the xbox and ps2 and i want to hear what one has over the other

8318.5.2005 13:39
whiteboyg
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But that controller 4 the ps3 is retarded that's the first thing i thought when i seen the ps3, doesn't look very comfortable either

8418.5.2005 13:42
whiteboyg
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any1 know how many controller ports are suppose to be on the ps3? i'm hoping 4, i don't like needing to buy an extra 30 dollar piece to play w/ my friends

8518.5.2005 13:49

Users will be able to connect up to seven wireless controllers simultaneously over Bluetooth. Wired USB2.0 controllers can also be used.

8618.5.2005 13:50
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thanks know anything about how the internet on it suppose to go

8718.5.2005 14:00

@whiteboyg ive not read anything specific but it has these Ethernet: (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 output x 2) Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 b/g so it is a good bet you can use the ethernet connection like now, or use the Wi-Fi to a wireless network! but i dont know...there just my ownt thoughts i have both an xbox and a ps2 had the ps2 since it came out, only had the xbox a few weeks. but id say the xbox is a better piece of kit in terms of technology but the ps2 has more games that i want to play, and its easier to mod which is better for me! but im new to the xbox so i dnt know how to mod it yet

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8818.5.2005 14:02
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thanks

8918.5.2005 15:42

The simple fact is that the ps3 is going to be twice as powerful as the xbox360. It is going to be 35 times more powerful than the ps2. Sure no doubt xbox360 is going to kick ass but its really a shitzu vs a pit bull when you look at the specs. As for the controller I agree that the thing looks ugly and uncomfortable. I personally think they should stick with the dualshock2s or maybe make dualshock3s. Even though ive broken most of mine :)

9018.5.2005 16:30
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the dualshock r ok, do break easily, went through 4 of them since i had the ps2 the most comfortable controller is the gamecube one but its not as easily configured as the dualshock2

9118.5.2005 18:24

Heh, if thats the actual controller, i will wait till someone comes out with a different model. That thing looks like something you would see in an erotic toy shop. But the good part is if its dualshock, your girlfriend will be very happy. :)

9318.5.2005 19:24

errmm, ignoring the kiddies PS Vs X-Box bitch war for a moment, what´s the point of unveiling this now and saying that it will support blu-ray when the Blu-ray and HD-DVD camps have just announced they are scrapping both formats to create a new format that will be based on an amalgamation of the two ?

9418.5.2005 19:25
whiteboyg
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I'm thinking it is, but does anyone no if the ps3 gonna b SVCD and VCD compatible?

9518.5.2005 20:20

1st the PS3 controller is not that bad but could have been improved a lot. 2nd the PS3 will be hacked sooner if you asked me considering how many hackers are out there. i hope it does not come out like the PSP with special disks cause then i will be annoyed. its very hard to crack a UMD trust me. i know. all we need now is a burner and blank UMDs nothing else. also i like this conection between the PSP and PS3 over infrared. maybe it will have some hidden qualities that might be explored. BTW the PS3 has wi-fi which means it can be hacked in a way also. the only thing we need is time nothing else. FEAR IS THE MIND KILLER. TEST IT IF YOU DARE.

9618.5.2005 20:58

well i just want to say that if halo 3 comes out the same time as ps3 then god help sony because halo 3 will be beat ps3 down

9718.5.2005 21:35
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Pffft... MS will get more market share this time just because last time it flopped. (yes it did flop). However they should be profitable this time. However a single game such as Halo 3 is not going to even dent PS3 sales. MS knows better than to release anything the same time as the PS3 because it will straight up fail. They will plan some sort of ho rah right before PS3s release but even if it was Halo three it would be stifled to a fart in the wind. Sorry. Im not saying PS3 is ultimate but a single game is not going to make ANY difference. Ludikhris

9818.5.2005 21:37

that one single game will beat the system

9918.5.2005 22:13

Dude I read on ign's site that sony is going to ask $465 on the release date for th ps3, if that's true then thats just insane. Now I can understand maybe $350 seeing that the original ps2 was $299 when it was first released but $465 is out of the question.

10019.5.2005 1:13

Icarbutt, dude, I wanna buy you a beer! youre the only person NOT saying "my dad can fight your dad" :-)

10119.5.2005 1:29

@Kyoji24 yes ive read the same thing as well

10219.5.2005 4:26

errr.. Xbox is good in hardware, playstation good on games, gamecube... good on pokemon games, zelda etc. but i think that playstation are #1 in asia because its have a lot of hi quality RPG games, like FF series, Xenosaga, StarOcean, etc. there no good RPG games on XBOX, and asian people very like RPG games, about fantasy, future, robots. etc. playstation also have good software, like DivXplayer, Linux, etc

10319.5.2005 15:22

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10419.5.2005 20:17

it looks like games are going to be ten dollars more expensive this time around for both systems. http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/deptpage.asp?wherefrom=search&searchword=ps3

10520.5.2005 2:11
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To Kyoji24: Take all the specs and parts it out as if it were a PC you were building take a look at www.pricewatch.com I am confident you will end up near 2k retail. I am prepared to spend $600 for mine because i know they are still gonna lose HELLLA money per console they sell. Those Cell processors... not cheap to make. You couldnt even price one out actually because they are beyond current PC technology. Ive ready a lot that says they are so far aheard of their time they may never be used because by the time everything catches up the will be pace. interesting stuff though. Ludikhris

10620.5.2005 3:02

sony are not a company who loses money, they make HUGE profits your taking about it like they make one system, sony make millions of them and can negotiate the price to what they want companies want to be a part of the ps3 movement and so to get there name with them then they will give them mad reductions in cost, people will see the names of the brands within and want them for other stuff, like ur pc parts sony will not lose anything on these consoles, they will make a big profit

10720.5.2005 7:12

i just hope that we can back up our games cause arent they using blue ray disc???


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10820.5.2005 7:13

oh yeah and the controller looks kinda uncomfortable, i hope they will have the old look too


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10920.5.2005 9:26

man, i don't know if they're gonna be able to mod that ps3... with all that cell chip, and blu-ray, and that boomerang... i think this time we are gonna have to buy the damn games...

11020.5.2005 9:35

lol someone out there will get round it, may take them a while because of the new technology but some of the guys who help make it, are sometimes the guys that help crack it it will get done eventually, just could be a while thats all :)

11120.5.2005 13:23

PS3!?! That looks like a scanner and a boomerang!

11220.5.2005 17:49

LOL...Yeah i hope we can still backup our games...LOL but there will be someone out there that will crack it, it may be a pain in the butt, but whatever works right???

11321.5.2005 0:31
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jpp01uk: Im sorry you're just flat wrong. Each console sold is at a loss thats how the market works. However they make the money up quickly in licensing games to the third party companies. It's just a known fact that everytime a company makes a console they sell it at a loss. I realize they will get deep reductions in cost, but that wont cover them enough. This is exactly why people were making PCs out of XBOXs. The parts were cheaper to take out of an XBOX than buy separate because MS was taking a loss for each console they sold. If I remember right the razor industry works the same, lose money on the razor itself to make money on the blades. (once you own their specific blade the demand for their razors thus becomes less elastic and they can charge more per) kinda the same idea here. Ludikhris

11422.5.2005 11:50
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yeah I don't like that controller as well I hope we can just plug in any PC USB controller in it




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11523.5.2005 5:46

so, basically... since it's going to take a while since they can find a way to mod those next-gen consoles... what are we going to talk about in this website? Maybe we are gonna have to start new forum topics, like venereal diseases, monogamy, sodomy, terrorism, soccer, porn... and stuff like that. Can I use that word? -> porn??

11623.5.2005 6:49

ur right we are just going to be talkin about how they need to hurry up and figure it out so they can mod the ps3, then we cant get the first ones that come out cause it will have bugs or glitches or somethin like that


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11724.5.2005 1:44
Ludikhris
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If you think about it there is a good change that the Swap Magic discs will work to play PS2 backups still you just have to figure a way to swap the disc without the system knowing... it should be relatively easy, but that only gets you as far as playing the backup PS2 discs (and if you have a PSX method that too). If you think about it Sony would actually be best of considering the piracy premium on PSX and PS2 a sunk cost and use it to there advantage by making it relatively easy to play backups of those games. That way people that have a lot of backups will be more likely to buy the system right off. They should just make it ballz hard to do PS3 games (which it probably will be). I imagine there will be backup PS2 and PSX games within the first 6 months of PS3 release. Of all the systems I am betting XBOX 360 will be pirated and hacked first because of the easier and more familiar technology. Then again the Japanese compose a lot of "the scene" and dont buy XBOX much compared to Sony and Nintendo's products. Ludikhris

11824.5.2005 21:05
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all i have to say is fuk sony x-box is the sickest shit ever so 360 is gonna be unbelieable fuk those confrences i know 360 gonna look better than wat it did on mtv rember the graphics of the last 2 systems look the same on tv but x-box was the better sytem in person and X-box has omre than1 game assholes ps2 has nottin good that x-box don't get


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11925.5.2005 5:15

you shouldn't make fun of the ps3 fanboys man, they got that new boomerang that can cut your head off. And they don't miss, cuz they got a homing device for BS.

12025.5.2005 6:41

jon_daqb ok yeah u need to go to an x-box thread cause this is only for PS2 fans. get the heck out of here and dont come back or ill use my boomerang on you fool.hahaha


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12125.5.2005 15:49

i really don't get why people have to come here and say F**k sony or F**k microsoft, they are both great systems. I understand if you like one better than the other but when you come here and sound ignorant for no reason and think that people are going to care what you think just makes me laugh. I mean what are you trying to prove by writing "fuk sony blablabla" does that make you feel cool or are you just some kind of internet thug trying to start something.

12227.5.2005 6:36

I, actually, like the ps3 better than the xbox 360, but if you don't get the joke... that's your problem... talking about jokes... someone told me that it was on the news that bill gates went to London (i think) and some guy threw a cake on his face and took pictures of it and spread it over the internet... poor bill was all mad and the security guys grabbed the guy but they couldn't do anything to him because... I mean... how can someone go to jail just for throwing a cake.... it would be really cool if someone finds the link to those pictures...

12327.5.2005 6:44

Yeah those pics would be pretty funny to see


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12427.5.2005 6:51

hahaha... okay, I didn't find the pictures... but I found a VIDEO instead... take a look... http://webpages.shepherd.edu/jbeatr01/vids/bgpie.mpeg

12527.5.2005 6:54

ah hahahaha omg that was pretty funny...LMAO stupid rich people


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12627.5.2005 12:57

Daaaaaam! when was this

12729.5.2005 3:31

hers what i came across for the p3 PLAYSTATION®3 Specifications> Product name PLAYSTATION®3 Logo CPU Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz 1 VMX vector unit per core 512KB L2 cache 7 x SPE @3.2GHz 7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs 7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE * 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy total floating point performance : 218 GFLOPS GPU RSX @550MHz 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines Sound Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-base processing) Memory 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz System Bandwidth Main RAM 25.6GB/s VRAM 22.4GB/s RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read) SB 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read) System Floating Point Performance 2 TFLOPS Storage HDD Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1 I/O USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0) Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1 SD standard/mini x 1 CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1 Communication Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2) Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g Bluetooth Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) Controller Bluetooth (up to 7) USB2.0 (wired) Wi-Fi (PSP®) Network (over IP) AV Output Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p HDMI HDMI out x 2 Analog AV MULTI OUT x 1 Digital audio DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1 Disc media * read only CD PlayStation® CD-ROM PlayStation®2 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW SACD SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD DualDisc DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side) DVD PlayStation®2 DVD-ROM PLAYSTATION®3 DVD-ROM DVD-Video DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW Blu-ray Disc PLAYSTATION®3 BD-ROM BD-Video BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE About Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. if im not mistaken this system suposed to be dvd r compataible just my 2 cents

12829.5.2005 3:45

im not against either of the systems they both have there ups and downs im just a die hard sports fan so all you sports fans take check out ncaa 2006 and maddend 2006 looks awsome just be happy ya can play a game go back into time where they had no t.v gaming systems just making the usa lazier than before i perfer to go out and have a life besides arguing about a gaming system go find some woman and have fun what happend to going outside with yr friends and playing football or whatever now days ppl eating pizza and setting on the damn couch thats whats wrong with kids today used to see kids outside now days ya cant get them to go out anp play see what the gaming system has turned us into my 2 cents may be pointless but ya get my drift

1291.6.2005 17:13

yup we have al seen those specs beieve it when its built and avilable to the public!


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1302.6.2005 1:07
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ugh. would people please stop posting the damn stats on the ps3 and xbox 360 specs.

1312.6.2005 6:52

yeah we all know and seen them


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13330.5.2006 12:30

Hey People. speaking of that Boomerang... i was just on the official PlayStation website and i think they herd everyone talking down the pad. I've seen a few images of the PS3 with the old pad design. a few improvements on the shoulder buttons and the wire that use to come out of the pad is now replaced with the type of USB sockets u get in Sony Digital Camera to connect to the PC. I'm guessing they are Bluetooth, but say when the batteries run out, you can slap the wire in and use it wired. Thats all from me. Keep the News coming. Thank You

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